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redtop91 wrote:One can get higher offsets and wider tires, and more wheel selection by going 5 lug.
I think you mean lower offsets... I can find 4x114.5 18x7 +40 tenzo R's all day lol.

The lower the offset, the further away from the car the wheel will be. Finding a 4 lugger with a low offset and desireable size and width is harder, but not impossible. And like redtop said, it depends on spoke design if you want to clear baller brakes, but its nothing a few spacers can't handle.


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redtop91 wrote:Insightful information + Amazing Link
Thank you so much for the clarification and link. This really is a lot more helpful than I could have ever expected.

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So I am new here also, and so far I've seen a lot of helpful information. My question is, I want to purchase a S13 or S14 in the next 1-3 months (as soon as a good deal comes by), as a car that I use throughout college (I'm 18 right now so the next 6-8 years.. hopefully). Right now I'm driving a 1997 Isuzu Trooper, passed down from my parents. So I was wondering with a budget around 7-10k "could" it be possible to make this into a daily driven car. And I realize there are problems that could occur that could easily raise the price, but just wondering.

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Faweed wrote:So I am new here also, and so far I've seen a lot of helpful information. My question is, I want to purchase a S13 or S14 in the next 1-3 months (as soon as a good deal comes by), as a car that I use throughout college (I'm 18 right now so the next 6-8 years.. hopefully). Right now I'm driving a 1997 Isuzu Trooper, passed down from my parents. So I was wondering with a budget around 7-10k "could" it be possible to make this into a daily driven car.
Although I bought my S13 far before the 240 craze, it is very realistic to have a boosted (Either SR or KA) for around 5k and daily drive it. I DD my SR. With that budget you can build a pretty fast fun track car. I'd go into more specifics but I'll need you to tell me what you want out of the car.
adrians_s13 wrote:I think you mean lower offsets... I can find 4x114.5 18x7 +40 tenzo R's all day lol.
Oops. Yeah lower offsets.
240ingthe240er wrote:
Thank you so much for the clarification and link. This really is a lot more helpful than I could have ever expected.
Hahahaha no problem man. Stick around. You'll learn a lot from this site if you know where to look.
Modified by redtop91 at 1:18 PM 5/17/2007

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redtop91 wrote:
Although I bought my S13 far before the 240 craze, it is very realistic to have a boosted (Either SR or KA) for around 5k and daily drive it. I DD my SR. With that budget you can build a pretty fast fun track car. I'd go into more specifics but I'll need you to tell me what you want out of the car.
Other then the daily driving, I will mostly be using this car for weekend drifting and occasional track use.

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DRiFTn’REALTOR wrote:Regarding LSD's I plan on building a car that is trackable and most definitely streetable. Would the 2 way be a little to agressive? Or are there adjustable LSD's like HKS's? Or would the 1.5 way be sufficient for a little weekend driftin?
I would say 1.5 way for street. More forgiving when decelerating and when you let off the throttle.

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Faweed wrote:So I am new here also, and so far I've seen a lot of helpful information. My question is, I want to purchase a S13 or S14 in the next 1-3 months (as soon as a good deal comes by), as a car that I use throughout college (I'm 18 right now so the next 6-8 years.. hopefully). Right now I'm driving a 1997 Isuzu Trooper, passed down from my parents. So I was wondering with a budget around 7-10k "could" it be possible to make this into a daily driven car. And I realize there are problems that could occur that could easily raise the price, but just wondering.
with 7 k you could almost have a fully built ka24det thats fairly reliable. with a nice size budget like said you can buy a car and have the engine rebuilt to stock spec and drive her for a good 100 miles with lil to NO worries about reliability .... but then again that 10 k can get you a kia with 100000 mile warrany thats new just a couple thoughts for yah. think about it its an old car unless you get a 98s14 then its only 10 years old and thats old

at least you are willing to wait for a good deal,that means you might take the car to a shop to have it checked out....

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neverlift wrote:
with 7 k you could almost have a fully built ka24det thats fairly reliable. with a nice size budget like said you can buy a car and have the engine rebuilt to stock spec and drive her for a good 100 miles with lil to NO worries about reliability .... but then again that 10 k can get you a kia with 100000 mile warrany thats new just a couple thoughts for yah. think about it its an old car unless you get a 98s14 then its only 10 years old and thats old

at least you are willing to wait for a good deal,that means you might take the car to a shop to have it checked out....
Yea I could buy a new car for a similar price, and have a warranty and all that, and I definitely haven't took that option off the table. But I seem to be fixated on imports and tuning and all that. Plus I love the S13 and S14. I'm definitely in no hurry to buy the car and I know a few people who would check out the car also.

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Here's a breakdown of a 10K 400whp S13.

S13 Chassis- $3000

SR20DET Redtop- $2000

HKS 264 Cams- $500

GT2871R .64 A/R- $1200

Front mount intercooler Kit- $500

BOV- $300

550cc Injectors- $500

ECU reflash- $400

Koyo Radiator and Fans- $700

Z32 MAF- $300

= $9100 and $600 left over to spend on whatever. And that is only provided you want 400whp. Naturally as you scale down a lot of price is reduced.

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redtop91 wrote:Here's a breakdown of a 10K 400whp S13.

S13 Chassis- $3000

SR20DET Redtop- $2000

HKS 264 Cams- $500

GT2871R .64 A/R- $1200

Front mount intercooler Kit- $500

BOV- $300

550cc Injectors- $500

ECU reflash- $400

Koyo Radiator and Fans- $700

Z32 MAF- $300

= $9100 and $600 left over to spend on whatever. And that is only provided you want 400whp. Naturally as you scale down a lot of price is reduced.
Thanks. That definitely helps me out alot. Appreciate it.

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redtop91 wrote:Here's a breakdown of a 10K 400whp S13.

S13 Chassis- $3000

SR20DET Redtop- $2000

HKS 264 Cams- $500

GT2871R .64 A/R- $1200

Front mount intercooler Kit- $500

BOV- $300

550cc Injectors- $500

ECU reflash- $400

Koyo Radiator and Fans- $700

Z32 MAF- $300

= $9100 and $600 left over to spend on whatever. And that is only provided you want 400whp. Naturally as you scale down a lot of price is reduced.
use that $600 for a real good tune

... and btw, you can get a lot of that stuff for waaay cheaper...bov: is more like $200 chinese fmic kit for like $200used z32 mafs from classifieds: $100koyo rad & elec fans for like: $500 from sponsorsgt2871r for like: $900 (from local hookup )

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but always overbudget, never underplan.

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adrians_s13 wrote:use that $600 for a real good tune

... and btw, you can get a lot of that stuff for waaay cheaper...bov: is more like $200 chinese fmic kit for like $200used z32 mafs from classifieds: $100koyo rad & elec fans for like: $500 from sponsorsgt2871r for like: $900 (from local hookup )
Yea definitely, theres always gonna be cheap deals out there, just needa do your research.
redtop91 wrote: but always overbudget, never underplan.
definitely, makes things easier for you on the end knowing that you got everything done at once, instead of running out of cash before its finished.

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yeah but why do all that when the sr could blow, with no real chance of easy/cheap replacement parts around I would urge a student to go n/a ka and I mean stock rebuilt n/a ka,or even stock rebuild with a small(insta boost) turbo just set at 5 or so psi

here I'll copy redtops13 with shyt motor 1500 tops( my boy is selling a coupe with silvia front and coilovers for like 16 hundred...)jgs tubo kit 2500rebuild( might as well go forged pistons since boost) 2000~3000mega ecu tune and injectors could run as little as 150 bux or as much as a grand

and that leaves out a couple things but you still got what 2 g's to play with.... ricer gauges and wing

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neverlift wrote:yeah but why do all that when the sr could blow, with no real chance of easy/cheap replacement parts around I would urge a student to go n/a ka and I mean stock rebuilt n/a ka,or even stock rebuild with a small(insta boost) turbo just set at 5 or so psi

here I'll copy redtops13 with shyt motor 1500 tops( my boy is selling a coupe with silvia front and coilovers for like 16 hundred...)jgs tubo kit 2500rebuild( might as well go forged pistons since boost) 2000~3000mega ecu tune and injectors could run as little as 150 bux or as much as a grand

and that leaves out a couple things but you still got what 2 g's to play with.... ricer gauges and wing
Don't know much about the SR motor, but yea that definitely makes alot of sense to me to go KA. And just go with rebuild the rest of the car. What I was thinking was new suspension, new brakes, rebuild the KA, and thats all I was thinking of for now, but with all the input I've gotten its helping me with what might be good buys for the S13 as soon as I get it. And as for the ricer gauges and wing... lol

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neverlift wrote:yeah but why do all that when the sr could blow, with no real chance of easy/cheap replacement parts around I would urge a student to go n/a ka and I mean stock rebuilt n/a ka,or even stock rebuild with a small(insta boost) turbo just set at 5 or so psi
Hmmmm (not going to turn this into KA vs. SR). SR's usually don't blow unless you are pushing major horsepower. The factory fuel timing maps are very forgiving for low end horsepower meaning you can get to 240 rwhp on the stock hardware. So at $2000 you have 240rwhp. I've yet to see a KA boosted for anywhere near that budget and be reliable. Additionally the SR parts being hard to find is a total myth. Most parts are exchangeable with a Sentra SE-R, (hell even the crankshaft of the SR20DET can be exchanged with that of the Sentra) and the major parts are stocked by our sponsor and available for overnight shipping. You can't even get major KA parts faster than that. Besides there is more aftermarket support for an SR and it's reliability is key for a student.

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redtop91 wrote:
Hmmmm (not going to turn this into KA vs. SR). SR's usually don't blow unless you are pushing major horsepower. The factory fuel timing maps are very forgiving for low end horsepower meaning you can get to 240 rwhp on the stock hardware. So at $2000 you have 240rwhp. I've yet to see a KA boosted for anywhere near that budget and be reliable. Additionally the SR parts being hard to find is a total myth. Most parts are exchangeable with a Sentra SE-R, (hell even the crankshaft of the SR20DET can be exchanged with that of the Sentra) and the major parts are stocked by our sponsor and available for overnight shipping. You can't even get major KA parts faster than that. Besides there is more aftermarket support for an SR and it's reliability is key for a student.


I'm not too sure about the 240rwhp tho... more like 190...the project car mag 240 barely made 200 @ 11psi

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An S14 notchtop can.

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redtop91 wrote:An S14 notchtop can.
ah... well done sir. Well done.

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hi guys! i'm new to the forum and i just bought a 1991 stock 240sx SE hatch back......I have very little knowledge about cars... but my friends inspired me to get into cars and i'm just starting as a noob to learn more about my 240 and cars in general -

So... I have a small question... When i was driving, i noticed that my clutch is really deep and stiff.... so... Should i change my clutch? or should i get a short shifter????

I did search.. haha;.. i've been on this site like 24/7 cuz i am just so excited to have my 240.... :

Also, my friend is doing a exhaust job for $150 with the labor and mat.He said the exhaust is a apexi WS used one.... is that a good deal?

haha sorry... i've been trying to search but.. couldn't get definite answer!!

and Thanks again!

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beeline wrote:So... I have a small question... When i was driving, i noticed that my clutch is really deep and stiff.... so... Should i change my clutch? or should i get a short shifter????
Welcome to NICO beeline. Stiff clutches usually don't happen unless you have an aftermarket clutch. If you do the engagement will be really heavy. As regards being deep, most 240's have pretty long clutch pedal travel, just something to get used to. The short shifter won't change anything having to do with clutch issues. You might want to clarify what exactly the problem is so I can give you a better answer. As regards the exhaust that seems to be a pretty good deal to me.

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thanks!

oh yeah about the clutch.

It is just very stiff in my opinion compared to the 1988 celica GT-s that i used to have.... and it squeaks as i push the pedal onto the floor...

haha... hope that clarifies the problem a bit...or not i'll try to get it checked by one of my friends....

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It is probably new clutch time but have the pressure plate on your current clutch and springs examined.

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beeline wrote:thanks!

oh yeah about the clutch.

It is just very stiff in my opinion compared to the 1988 celica GT-s that i used to have.... and it squeaks as i push the pedal onto the floor...

haha... hope that clarifies the problem a bit...or not i'll try to get it checked by one of my friends....
The 240's clutch is a lot stiffer than a celica's. I'd say as long as its still shifting fine, and not slipping, your fine, just get used to it. Or better yet, find someone els with a 240 and see if it is the same.

I wouldn't worry about the squeaking... if it bothers you that much, crawl under your dash and spray all the linkages and stuff with some sort of lubricant.

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thanks!

oh yea i forgot to ask yesterday...

Where should i go (internet forums, websites, etc) to learn stuff about cars in general?

i would really love to understand all the vocabs that people use on this forum. Most of the time i'm just lost trying to figure out what the heck a single word might mean and where that thing is located in my car....


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beeline wrote:Where should i go (internet forums, websites, etc) to learn stuff about cars in general?
OMFG http://www.howstuffworks.com is the best evar! They have neat animations to illustrate things to!

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Get FSM for ur year so u know where to locate it.

http://www.bumnah.com/fsms/

Most of the time u can just search on google to find out abbreviations such as, ITBs, MAFs, T/C Rods, RUCA, etc.

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hi, im sophia and i became very interesting in all the nissan 240sx cars.. they are original and collectable rite? well, i have a nissan 240 sx and its a 1990... currently, its not in the best condition but not in the worst either, i wanted to get it fixed up and maybe get the sterio with the paint job done. I am not sure how much the pricing would be and just wanted to know if u can help me out, i have a couple other problems that i need help with, but was hoping you can help me with atleast this. Maybe you can message me.. on aim: russiansweety06, or email me on [email protected] Thank you so much and i really need this. I have no other car and it needs to get fixed up so i was wondering if it would be cheaper just to fix it rather then buy another used car.

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Hi Sohpia. Welcome to NICO.
myine4me wrote:collectable rite?
Not yet. They are very hot cars right now but they aren't exactly collectibles yet.
myine4me wrote:I am not sure how much the pricing would be and just wanted to know if u can help me out
Depends on the type and quality of the paint job you want. Your Alpine Whites, Uber Deep blacks, and all other vibrant colors will run you close to if not more than 1 grand. A good sound system can be had for around $400 zer...26564 but for an excellent system plan on $600 or so.
myine4me wrote:i have a couple other problems that i need help with
Definitely don't hesitate to ask.

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myine4me wrote:hi, im sophia and i became very interesting in all the nissan 240sx cars.. they are original and collectable rite? well, i have a nissan 240 sx and its a 1990... currently, its not in the best condition but not in the worst either, i wanted to get it fixed up and maybe get the sterio with the paint job done. I am not sure how much the pricing would be and just wanted to know if u can help me out, i have a couple other problems that i need help with, but was hoping you can help me with atleast this. Maybe you can message me.. on aim: russiansweety06, or email me on [email protected] Thank you so much and i really need this. I have no other car and it needs to get fixed up so i was wondering if it would be cheaper just to fix it rather then buy another used car.
well you say fix... but explain what's broken...

as for paint, go get quotes. It depends on how much damage you have. I've seen paint jobs as cheap as $300 from maaco, and top of the line $3000-$5000 jobs, it all depends on what you want. Of course, you get what you pay for, so don't expect factory paint jobs at a $500 price range, unless you got it like that.


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