I Love Morons

[rico05]

Check out this thread that started as a simple question, into all out CA bashing. I hate a$$hats like that.

http://www.houston240sx.com/fo...=5227

[Kouks]

Wow, I am so sorry. They have crappy valvetrain, good thing they have been out for a while or someone might not have made rocker arm stoppers for it.

By the way, I thought the only reason the CA was removed from the s chassis was that the french bought nissan and the sr was more COST effective to produce.

Also they make 189cc difference see, like SOOOO much. f***....we get more revs.

On your superior engine post, The rb25,26 is definitely one up on the ca in terms of technology and strength, but the ca is/was way more sophisticated than the sr.

One more comment on that topic, if the ca had the same turbo (srt25) as the sr, the horsepower difference i believe would only be about 9hp at 7lbs of boost, probably from displacement.

[pulsar gtr]

I stopped paying attention to such topics as it shows how much ignorance and idiots out there. Most of them like the SR engine more because their next door neighbors got an SR and it got the Wooosh wooosh sound bov when he revs it lol. If they understand a bit about an engine design, they wouldn't be installing SRs in their cars.

RafiPULSAR GTR

[Kouks]

Not to start a debate, because I agree that everyone in the mags talks about sr's, but i would like to hear your side of it pros/cons of the sr.

I like the ca alot, and sr's are okay, but just wanted to hear your opinions/knowledge about the design of the sr. Basically, why wouldnt they be installing sr's.....

[float_6969]

Before I pulled the motor and rebuilt it and put on exhaust and standalone, and yada, yada, yada, I was beating every SR in town. all I had was stock exhaust w/o resonator, and a stupid fart can, and a FMIC. Stock CA turbo, stock boost, that's it. I wasn't railing on the SR's, but they weren't spanking me by any stretch of the imagination.

I raced a freind of mine recently that I had beat before, he's got the same SR only w/full exhaust and an FMIC. With a street tune at 7psi, on an SR T25, I beat him from a roll (30mph) by at least 1.5 car lenghts.

The CA nothing to scoff at.

I hope to have dyno results to back that up ASAP.

[burnout 180]

I hate morons.

What is with this constant war. We are all Nissan and Nissan rules.

It is impossible to logically argue on which engine is better because each engine has its own advantages.

Its just a waste of words arguing because it really comes down to the individuals preferences.

Luckily Ca owners relies this and don't respond.

Its those darn teenagers who are just getting their licenses who are talking trash.

(P.S CA>SR)

[Akihisa]

I have blown up an Sr, Ca and Ka. The CA didn't really blow up it just broke. After it breaks next time, I will try a QH45De so then nobody can put me down because I have a Ca or Sr or Ka.

[GotdaDrift]

hello im new to the nico forums but wow started to read that post and had to finish it.

[rico05]

It just hacks me off that the guy who started it just wanted to know where to get a CA from. It just goes to show that there are a lot of tools, even in our own community!

[Rookieca18det]

Some SR guys are hilarious. I love sr's almost as much as I love ca's. One of the main reasons is that they get all the attention from the import mags; so it is easy to understand why they have such a huge aftermarket. Considering the only time I have seen a CA in a mag was in super street (i think) once when they were talking about all the possible motors you could put in your 240...our aftermarket is not that bad at all. I think if they actually rode in a stock CA they would be suprised. Thankfully where I live in south florida most of the sr guys are pretty straight and are more likely to ask "how does she run" or "how much is it making" than, "DAMN why didnt you get a sr?" Anyway reading is fundamental and I think the sr guys should do more reading.

-richard

[Sil40sK]

Its those darn teenagers who are just getting their licenses who are talking trash.

Hey I'm a teenager, but then again I've had my license for a while, I don't really talk too much trash, and I'd say I know more about automobiles than the average person my age, so I guess this dosn't really apply to me.

[mbmbmb23]

That Mikespeed95 is a moron. And I quote:

"ive read several accounts of CA owners on drifting boards post CA swap saying " i should have left in the stock ka, it peformed better than CA modded for drifting" , while it may go a tad faster stock for stock it has no torque, which is why i think it is totally..."

What an idiot. How many of those fools on his drifing boards had their CA correctly geared (4.3 VLSD) before making their "stock for stock" driftah comparisons and saying the CA sucked? Morons.

Someone who's registered please point that out in their thread.

-m

[themadscientist]

Well if I could slide a CA18DE then a lesser man should be able to slide a CA18DET. Don't waste your time arguing with a moron, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

[float_6969]

I love it when you say that TMS. My fav quote ever!

[240 Trainee]

That Mikespeed95 is a moron. And I quote:

"ive read several accounts of CA owners on drifting boards post CA swap saying " i should have left in the stock ka, it peformed better than CA modded for drifting" , while it may go a tad faster stock for stock it has no torque, which is why i think it is totally..."

What an idiot. How many of those fools on his drifing boards had their CA correctly geared (4.3 VLSD) before making their "stock for stock" driftah comparisons and saying the CA sucked? Morons.

Someone who's registered please point that out in their thread.

-m

Well, it also depends on your style, you can't rely on the torque a KA has when you drift a CA, because it's just not there. Though this is purely hypothetical; My old CA never ran long enough for me to slide it

[Akihisa]

I drift my CA.

[rico05]

The really sad thing is that Mike (mikespeed) is one of my good friends, but he has never ridden in my car. You know the El Camino that drifted in this years ForumlaD? Well, he is the driver of that car (beleive it or not). He really is a good guy, so I can't figure out why is is being a tool.

Oh wait, he is a tool LOL.

[Akihisa]

He is Bubba Drift? He should know that CA's can drift well. He saw me drift at the Atlanta Drift Expo with my CA. Drifting has alot to do with car setup, not neccasarily how much torque or power you have or at what RPM's you have it.

[Sil40_Mayhem]

Don't waste your time arguing with a moron, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Hey man, I hope you don't mind, but I gotta snatch this quote for my sig.

[iliketocrash]

yeah. i watched that bubba drift guy in the forumula D thing. it was on speedvision or spike tv or something. personally i think he sucked... or at least that el camino sucked for drifting.

[Akihisa]

He brought the el camino to that Atlanta drift expo and did a demo. Eacj run he spun out. Didn't have one smooth run.

[themadscientist]

Hey man, I hope you don't mind, but I gotta snatch this quote for my sig.

Wish I could claim it but I am quoting a good freind of mine, The Boost Warrior. He shares our disdain for morons

[rico05]

Oddly enough, he finished FD in 8th place overall in points, and is invited back next year. But yeah, he is good, but the ElCo needs some work.

But he won't be in it next season....the owner is being a b|tch and pulled his ride

[sdtouge]

i perosnally think that guy bibba is a dork. but hey what do i know. ca is great for drifting, i loved itca is fast too, and easy to work on.ca is a great motor. who cares what other people think.

[slideways]

yeahp. it gets worse on Zilvia.net

time after time they keep ranting about how much more superior sr is over ca, how it was a much better production engine. I just dont see why it is always under debale. thats like comparing b16 to b18 because ive seen d16 vtech turbo womp on nsx's. Lisa kubo was runing low 9's on SOHC d16 NA set up.

ca/sr ca>sr ca<sr blah blah blah. every single motor ever producted has the POSSIBILITY of being powerful and superior over LESS modified engines. a special ed kid can tell you this. ant> scorpion " probly wont make since to most" but if there are more of them then the point is made a lot easier. like said from that debate, sr is known becasue its featured in power pages and HOW TO's from magazine to magazine. if ca was given the chance to shine then people would repect it as well. but it wil lalways remain the LOWER DOGG engine that just gets stepped on all over forusm worldwide/

anyhow im done with the debate, u can see my replys on varioius threads from different forums. my mouth is silent. we are blessed with the information which keeps our engines under the :" greater few" and until every ca is gone i will remain to run mine.

[tyrannix]

yeah, CAs suck, dont get one (leaves more parts for me .... kinda sound like an FJ guy or something)

yeahp. it gets worse on Zilvia.net

time after time they keep ranting about how much more superior sr is over ca, how it was a much better production engine. I just dont see why it is always under debale. thats like comparing b16 to b18 because ive seen d16 vtech turbo womp on nsx's. Lisa kubo was runing low 9's on SOHC d16 NA set up.

ca/sr ca>sr ca<sr blah blah blah. every single motor ever producted has the POSSIBILITY of being powerful and superior over LESS modified engines. a special ed kid can tell you this. ant> scorpion " probly wont make since to most" but if there are more of them then the point is made a lot easier. like said from that debate, sr is known becasue its featured in power pages and HOW TO's from magazine to magazine. if ca was given the chance to shine then people would repect it as well. but it wil lalways remain the LOWER DOGG engine that just gets stepped on all over forusm worldwide/

anyhow im done with the debate, u can see my replys on varioius threads from different forums. my mouth is silent. we are blessed with the information which keeps our engines under the :" greater few" and until every ca is gone i will remain to run mine.

[F3600]

funny thread ... Sr sound like **** .. dont like them.

Seriously.. both engine are good just a matter of choice .. never liked an engine with timing chain.. so Sr is out of my basket

[biosehnsucht]

Who pulls who boils down to two things: Powerband and how well you (as a driver) can use it (whatever shape it may be).

If, together, these two are greater than the other car AND driver - you win.

I've not yet dyno'd but my car FEELS to have a smoother, possibly wider (if not as tall) powerband.

Those SR's just better wait until we get out collective rear end's in gear (4.363 gear to be exact)

Unfortunately I'm about to be moving so I won't be getting mine put together anytime soon or working on anything else for a month or so

[MinisterofDOOM]

I don't know enough about either engine to have an educated opinion, so I'll keep my e-mouth shut as far as the SR vs CA debate...but people this little statement bothered me:

By the way, I thought the only reason the CA was removed from the s chassis was that the french bought nissan and the sr was more COST effective to produce.

"The French" bought a controlling share of Nissan in March of 1999.The Renault buyout had nothing to do with the SR replacing the CA. In fact, it had nothing to do with either engine in any way.

[themadscientist]

The French are responsible for the Cresaunt holders in the new GT-R