It was really an easy choice.

The orangutan with the orange combover is far too narcissistic for this country. And, Quoting Stephen Hawking, referring to Trump.

"He is a demagogue, who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator."

So true Stephen, so true.

Bernie Lenin never pinged my votedar. I never considered the old socialist. Too old, too angry, too slow to do the math and see he's at the point that he's merely making enemies by continuing in the race. Interestingly, living in a very blue state, I've seen one political commercial on TV this round. And it was Bernie pitching his socialist agenda.

Hillary. Although not without a few characteristics I'd like to change, all the web "who do you agree with" cites put me at anywhere between 80 to 85% in agreement with her. That's a good fit. That's why she got my vote. Not that it matters, she's already the presumptive nominee.

Now, all that's left is to watch Trump trip over his nutsack, time and time again. Watch him muddle his way to November, defending his fragile ego, practicing his xenophobia, insulting learned federal judges and pointing out his "African american" friends. Not to mention Trump University and his insulting of Megyn Kelly and her monthly cycle. It absolutely amazes me that there are Americans who support this idiot. Obviously they are those on the ascending side of the intelligence bell curve, the lowest common denominator.

Please vote. It's that important.

If you're a Republican get a grip on what's happening. Supporting trump is admitting your party has nothing left worthy of consideration. It's as if you've chosen the cabin boy to be captain. Reorganize, find people with their finger on the pulse of reality.

I'm a Libertarian. I will not, however, vote for Gary Johnson this election only because a vote against Trump is a vote for Hillary.

I'm not much of a Trump fan, however I feel that America can survive 8 years of Trump far better than 8 years of Hillary. Lesser of two evils.

Oh, and I'm basically a one-issue voter. Pro-guns, every time. The restriction of the second amendment leads to restrictions of the rest of them.

That's all I have to say about that.

Trump has no chance. He's alienated the Hispanics, the Muslims, the disabled, women, and apparently, many of the Republican elite. Trump won't make it until November without exposing his personality disorders in much the same way he's demonstrated his Xenophobia, if not pure racism, with his comments on Judge Curiel.

I have absolutely zero doubt that Hillary has this in the bag. Tonight I'm watching her kick a** in the 6 final Super Tuesday states. I've watched her speeches and she's finding her tempo. Meanwhile Trump is still making hand gestures, calling those who disagree with him losers and resorting to other playground insults. Trump's biggest problem is that he embodies the core of the Dunning Kruger effect. His cognitive bias with respect to his ability to run a country based on his ability to financially bully others as he's done in all his business dealings will be his downfall. He's simply not as smart as he believes, and questioning his intelligence sends him off the deep end. Textbook Dunning Kruger.

Mark my words. Without a doubt Hillary be the next President. I am absolutely certain.

And have no fear for your 2nd amendment rights. They are in no danger with Hillary. If your're law abiding, responsible and sane citizen, and I'm sure you are, you keep your firearms.

Thank you for your unbiased and fact based information. Where did you get your degree in political science again?

I don't have a time machine but I'm glad you're unwaveringly confident that you hold the knowledge to the next 4 years.

In any case, I don't disagree that Trump has no tact, but he's no moron. Hillary isn't either. I simply disagree with her opinions as you disagree with Trump's and that's that.

Good luck out there, folks. Vote for whomever you'd like to.

one more thing. Hillary clearly has Trumps number. She's found her stride. She's found her sea legs. She knows what Trump's personality disorders are and how to trigger his inappropriate tirades and finger pointing rants. What does this mean to you? Sit back, enjoy the summer of political folly as Trump is continually torpedoed by Hillary and the media.

Even many Republicans have started criticizing him, and one has already unendorsed him. Why, they want to distance themselves from his lunacy. Ryan has called his comments textbook racists, and I think the world agrees. The Republican party is crumbling under the pressure of supporting someone with the temperament if a 15 year old. He's never going to mane it to November.

Like it or not, you know I'm right. If this bothers you, you really should make a date with Jack Daniels for the night of November 8, 2016, because, well, you'll see.

I honestly don't know how anyone can fawn over that gasbag without addressing her 40-year history of bald-faced lies, her treatment of women, her actions (or inaction) that cost us four good Americans, her slander of Bill's whores, her ignorant and misinformed allegations about the NRA, her blatant disregard for Federal law with regard to classified emails... the list goes on.

Couldn't all be a "vast right-wing conspiracy." Nope.

Feel free to swing from that hag's nutsack all you want, but I'd prefer to see her get 8 years of striped sunshine than a White House key.

Hillary has been losing to Trump in most major polls the past month, and has only been losing ground. I don't want Trump as president, but I can at least recognize that he has a nuclear arsenal of dirt he can bring up about Hillary. The decades of lies, warmongering, law-breaking.... she doesn't have a chance. How can you ignore all the skeletons in her closet? I am genuinely curious, not trying to bust your balls. How can you gloss over all the horrible s*** she has pulled? How can you stomach the thought of her as president and likely dragging us into ANOTHER f*** war in the middle east? She broke the law with the email server and acts like she is completely above the law. How can you feel a person is trustworthy when they are being investigated by the FBI?

BTW I love how you call Sanders "too old", but he's only six years older than Hillary... and appears to be in better health.

AZhitman wrote:I honestly don't know how anyone can fawn over that gasbag without addressing her 40-year history of bald-faced lies, her treatment of women, her actions (or inaction) that cost us four good Americans, her slander of Bill's whores, her ignorant and misinformed allegations about the NRA, her blatant disregard for Federal law with regard to classified emails... the list goes on.

Couldn't all be a "vast right-wing conspiracy." Nope.

Feel free to swing from that hag's nutsack all you want, but I'd prefer to see her get 8 years of striped sunshine than a White House key.

But the most qualified to be the next POTUS



Telcoman

Let's be serious. Both sides have a candidate. We have only 2 choices, those 3rd party choices don't get enough voters to pay for the ink needed to print their name on the ballot. In my county they got something like .014% of the vote. Totally insignificant.

It's Hillary v the Donald.

A few things Madam President has said about the Donald. Seriously, think about these comments. Think about how the Donald appears to the rest of the world. Think about whether you want the world seeing this as who we are. These points are undeniable accurate.

1. "Donald Trump's ideas aren't just different -- they are dangerously incoherent. They're not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies."

2. "He's not just unprepared -- he's temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility."

3. "This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin."

4. "We cannot put the safety of our children and grandchildren in Donald Trump's hands. We cannot let him roll the dice with America."

5. "He has no ideas on education. No ideas on innovation. He has lots of ideas about who to blame but no clue about what to do."

6. "This is a man who said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, including Saudi Arabia."

7. "This is someone who has threatened to abandon our allies in NATO -- the countries that work with us to root out terrorists abroad before they strike us at home."

8. "He believes we can treat the U.S. economy like one of his casinos and default on our debts to the rest of the world, which would cause an economic catastrophe far worse than anything we experienced in 2008."

9. "He has said that he would order our military to carry out torture and the murder of civilians who are related to suspected terrorists -- even though those are war crimes."

10. "He says he doesn't have to listen to our generals or ambassadors because he has -- quote -- 'a very good brain.' He also said, 'I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.' You know what? I don't believe him.
...
there were 34 points, 10 points are sufficient to get my point across. However, I'll add one more thing. Something that hits home a comment I made earlier in this thread.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/ ... gn-policy/

From Nate Silver's 538 site I offer this cite about Trump's mental issues...
She’s not the first person to suggest the Republican presidential candidate could use a session on the couch. Back in November, Vanity Fair got five psychiatrists and psychologists to weigh in on Trump’s mental health. But while Clinton is free to imply anything she wants about her opponent’s sanity, the experts in sanity (or lack thereof) are supposed to keep mum. Both psychiatrists and psychologists operate under ethical rules that prevent them from offering professional diagnostic opinions about the mental health of public figures they have not personally examined. The American Psychiatric Association’s version of this is known as the Goldwater Rule — named for another polarizing Republican presidential candidate.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/psy ... out-trump/

Short version. Mental health professionals can't publicly tell you he's nuttier than a squirrel turd. Ethics prevent it. But then, we see his narcissism, his fragil ego and his long list of phobias.

Seriously, His mental issues are obvious. Hillary and the media will spend the next 5 months exposing how unstable his is.

So, even those of you who can't stand the idea of the next POTUS being Hillary, you are seriously going to choose the candidate Kim Jung Il and Putin endorsed? Gotcha.

I'm guarantying you, excluding health issues oir accidents, Hillary will win in 2016. It's a done deal.

Deep inside, I know you all know I'm right.

I'm guarantying you, excluding health issues oir accidents, Hillary will win in 2016. It's a done deal

Don't forget federal incarceration.

Also, please ensure you do not ever move from the dillusional land of Oz...I mean California. We can't have you folks ruining any more of the great states.

R/T Hemi wrote:I'm guarantying you, excluding health issues oir accidents, Hillary will win in 2016. It's a done deal.

Deep inside, I know you all know I'm right.

Well for one, 3rd party candidates are only not viable because mouth breathers continue to push the establishment's narrative that they are not viable. Self fulfilling prophecy. Seems like 60% of the country either hates Hillary or hates Trump.... wonder what would freaking happen if they all voted for SOMEONE ELSE.

Second, I would rather have Trump as president because I believe our government has enough checks and balances to keep him from completely kicking over the sandbox. Trump simply doesn't know how the government works well enough to push any of his crazier ideas. Hillary on the other hand will f*** us all over quietly because she knows exactly how to play the system. That's the only reason she's not in cuffs already.

Do you honestly think Trump doesn't know how to play the system? He's been manipulating/paying off politicians/public officials for decades. I'm neither a fan of Hillary or Trump, but it seems like many Trump supporters underestimate or ignore his history of indiscretions/ outright lies.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/vi ... ity-judge/


amusing^^

Yes, I honestly think Trump is clueless. I subscribe to Stephen Hawking's POV with respect to Trump supporters being the lowest common denominator. I firmly believe there are too many Americans, Democrat and Republican alike who just do not want a thin skinned ego maniac anywhere near the White house.

Indictment? Huguenaud wrote an article stating that an inside FBI source told him they would indite Hillary.
Snopes, Fact Checking, said...

WHAT'S FALSE: No one else has reported on anything similar Huguenaud's claims, and his article provided no citations nor any credible information suggesting there was any truth to his claims.
It's a dead issue. I also agree that the alleged "Obama has already told the Attorney General to kill any investigation of the matter" is likewise unsubstantiated.

It's pretty simple really. Trump is a racist, a xenophobe, Islamophobic, misogynic, lunatic who mocks women's monthly cycle, disabled people, Hispanics and African Americans. He's pretty much shot the s*** our of the voter base here. What's left other than the NRA, KKK, Putin and Kim Jung Il.

Yeah, Trump is a political buffoon.

No, he's not a buffoon, he's actually good at what he does: self promotion. whether being an extreme narcissist is presidential material is open to debate. But he' s proudly ignorant about how government and international politics work. But the one thing Trump does do well, is being persuasive and connecting. For example, his repeated use of labels (lying Ted, crooked Hillary, build a wall, etc) catch on quickly especially with those like to focus on sound bytes/memes, and of course, anyone who hates Hillary. It's amazing how successful he's become despite providing little or no facts to his ideas, making inflammatory statements, his Don Rickles approach for anyone that dares to disagree with him, having as many skeletons in his closet as Hillary, and insulting large groups of voters regularly. It's no wonder the RNC is cringing.

Bubba. I think you're grossly underestimating the intelligence of the American voter. Sure, Trump makes headlines, violent demonstrations, egg tossing, name calling and ignoring anything contrary to his rants. Think about a future debate between the two. Hillary has but to mention any of a half dozen things that will set the Donald off on another rant. Rants in a debate will increase ratings, but I sincerely doubt they will increase voter support.


Even the Republican party is shaking their head and wondering how in the heck they will get out of this mess and have a functional party left.

Loki wrote:3rd party candidates are only not viable because mouth breathers continue to push the establishment's narrative that they are not viable. Self fulfilling prophecy.

The most accurate statement in the thread.

R/T Hemi wrote:Yes, I honestly think Trump is clueless.

I'd lay odds he can spell "guaranteeing."

R/T Hemi wrote:I subscribe to Stephen Hawking's POV

...because a British astrophysicist who can't wipe his own arse is an expert on the American political system?

R/T Hemi wrote:with respect to Trump supporters being the lowest common denominator.

So, how would you describe the Bern / Killary supporters waving foreign flags and attacking people at rallies? Let's remember who brings the violence that you lefties claim to despise, eh?

R/T Hemi wrote:I firmly believe there are too many Americans, Democrat and Republican alike who just do not want a thin skinned ego maniac anywhere near the White house.

I firmly believe there are too many Americans, Democrat and Republican alike who just do not want a misogynist, lying, disbarred, manipulative, anti-American liar / thief anywhere near the White house.

Only one candidate smeared the character and credibility of victims of sexual assault - repeatedly - for several decades. SO, who's the misogynist (or did you copy/paste that from somewhere else?)

But by all means, continue to be upset because the other guy "said mean things."

Feel free to follow Howie's drooling, inept lead by replying with a picture of a supermarket tabloid or some other such liberal pablum...

AZhitman wrote:Feel free to follow Howie's drooling, inept lead by replying with a picture of a supermarket tabloid or some other such liberal pablum...

You sure do have a knack for supporting losers in numerous elections while convincing no one with any true facts.

Trump's Birther Libel

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... uz/471015/

Tens of millions of voters are not forgetting the buffoon that the republican party has as the presumptive nominee.

I predict he will not be chosen at the convention and someone else will be presented thus handing the election to Hillary

Telcoman

Obama, Warren endorse Clinton. With the Obama endorsement, you can pretty sure bet any incitement of Hillary is dead, as if it wasn't already. Wonder what Fox news will do now that 90% of the BS they air is moot. Warren, a former law professor from Harvard would make a great VP. Double down Hillary, two strong brains beat one warped one with a comb-over. The Donald is in so far over his head it's not funny.

It's all coming together. The Democrats are unifying and pulling out the stops, the Republicans are trying to find the start line. Cue the Benny Hill theme song here.

Hitman. It sounds like you have a pretty dismal record of picking winning politicians. You can fix that in one stroke of the pen. Change that R on your voter registration card to a D. Not only will you feel better about it, but you'll get an instant +25 on IQ points. Oh, and I must have misread your post above, because it sounded like you are mocking a disabled person for being disabled. (Hawking) I'm sure you didn't mean that.

I forgot about Trump and the birther thing. I'm surprised the buffoon found a tin foil hat that fit over his comb-over. He's the gift that keeps giving. Wait until November, his mouth will have the US and the world laughing at him.

See, this is why people think liberals are functionally retarded.

Howie's over here spewing stream-of-consciousness dementia (instead of responding to the allegations against his dear Uncle Hillary).

Why does she hate women, Howie? What part of my indictment of her character was less than factual? The disbarment? Her terminations? Her failure to protect our Ambassador? Perhaps she should have been sodomized with a rifle and dragged through the streets by an angry mob. She deserves it more than Ambassador Stevens did. Her repeated lies and fabrications? Her disdain for any of her husband's victims? How can she lead a country when she automatically assumes all rape victims are liars? Would you tolerate that from a Republican? Hell no, you wouldn't - and that's why it's so entertaining watching you guys beat off over Uncle Hillary.

R/T, what would you know of my "record?" If you're relying on Howie's addle-brained blithering, well, that tells me all I need to know. In actuality, despite your short-sighted assumption that I'm in any way aligned with the GOP or their positions, let me ruin your day: I'm a staunch Libertarian, and have been since college.

I can't imagine anyone being proud to support such a compulsive liar. Why doesn't honesty and integrity matter?

http://www.politifact.com/personalities ... ing/false/

In response to your ill-advised snark regarding my IQ improving by registering as a Dem, I'd be more than happy to match wits with anyone here, anytime, on damn near any topic.

See, unlike staunch adherents to the party line, I actually think for myself. I don't need some hag who rode into Washington on her pervert husband's coattails telling me who the good guys and the bad guys are. She's unqualified to even practice law - that should tell you plenty.

No, you didn't misread anything. I don't pander to people who are different, and I'm sure Mr. Hawking won't be harmed by my opinion of him (see, I don't believe in political correctness or the pussification of America). You might have also caught the veiled mocking of those who gleefully recounted his diss of Trump, as if it means diddly-squat. I'm sure you weren't one of them.

I will agree that Hillarious would decimate DT in a debate, for exactly the reasons you pointed out. Frankly, that means nothing. After the debate, she's still a criminal, still a pathological liar, and still a professional politician. No new ideas, no new plans, no credibility with the middle class, and no support (except from people who have a bizarre need to be aligned with the 'winning' team at all costs - including their integrity).

So much hostility Hitman. It appears you've bought into the Fox (or is it Faux) news claptrap with regard to Hillary. They too are still trying to get that old dog to hunt. It's not going to happen. You know why? There's nothing there. You can bet your state flag that Obama wouldn't have given Hillary the nod if there was anything pending. (And if there was, he'd certainly know.)

Actually I'm glad you're not a Republican. Now I know I can use big words and you won't be lost. Actually I suspected you might play the Centrist card when it came down to it. It's pretty safe that way and you don't have to take a side.

Oh, the little slice at her for defending that rapist? My take on that, she's a damn good attorney. An attorney who did what she was ethically bound to do, that is, pursue each and every avenue available to get her client off. Given that that particular case was her first serious felony case, and that it was assigned to her, not requested by her, I'm absolutely impressed by her performance. Should rapists get off? Of course not. Should they have an attorney like Hillary. You betcha.

Seriously, is this all you have. The same old worn out record repeating the same out tried and failed email bullchit? emails, Benghazi? *yawn*

Let's look at the facts about this.
The 11 hour marathon Benghazi hearing left Hillary Clinton largely unscathed. Period. Hearing after hearing did nothing to turn things against her. She'll walk on their political graves. (remember you heard that here first)

Even Sanders said, during one of the first debates with her, that the email issue was a dead one. Drop it he said. But not Fox. Why? Because they have noting else. Seriously, they have nothing and continue beating the same drum, over and over, entertaining an audience so ADD possessed that they had forgotten they heard the same twaddle the night before. Like a one trick pony in a side show.

You appear to associate Hillary with her husbands misdoings? That's rather funny that anyone would actually mention that in a discussion about Hillary's trip to the White House. Might as well discuss the time their dog shat on the dining room floor, equally on point and similarly lacking in substance. Bill was a cockhound. The world is full of them. Who people screw, live with, marry, love, etc., providing they are consenting adults, is none of our business.

Seriously Hitman, Turn off Fox news. Sean Hannity is just one of the reasons why we don't let brothers and sisters marry in California. Quit drinking his kool-aid.

That said. Thanks for responding.

Again with the assumptions... I don't even watch TV (much less Fox news). Not familiar with Hannity. I assume that's another failed attempt to pigeonhole me in your simplistic worldview.

Just because Hilarity has escaped consequence doesn't mean she's innocent (or worthy).

You may be ok with her lack of character, and that's fine - but you can't honestly think "Obama giving Hillary the nod" is anything more than blind partisan loyalty, can you? Good lord, you can't have forgotten 2008 that quickly.

I didn't bring up Bill's shenanigans to "associate" her with them - Surely you must be a little sharper than that. If, as you say, who he bangs (or assaults) is "none of our business," why didn't she just say that? Why did she need to impugn their character? Hmmm. Then again, I guess when the Golden Goose can't keep his redneck pecker in his pants, someone's gotta protect Camelot. History repeats itself, and the liberals fall over their own slack jaws fawning over philandering losers.

p.s. Son, you haven't ever used a word that impresses me or gives me pause, so spare me the condescension. The fact that you equate Libertarian with "Centrist" or "not taking sides" tells me all I need to know about your political acumen and understanding of the issues. Perhaps you should do some research on what it means to be a Libertarian... here's a hint - it sure beats swinging from the nutsacks of your elected political mommy and daddy.

Then again, I suppose if I lived in such a mismanaged and oppressive state, I guess I'd have a distorted view of the issues as well.

AZhitman wrote:Again with the assumptions... I don't even watch TV (much less Fox news). Not familiar with Hannity. I assume that's another failed attempt to pigeonhole me in your simplistic worldview.

Well that kind of explains why you have been so ill informed in multiple past presidential elections and now this upcoming one.

AZhitman wrote:Just because Hilarity has escaped consequence doesn't mean she's innocent (or worthy).

What has she been charged with?
She is however the most qualified to be the next POTUS.

AZhitman wrote: Perhaps you should do some research on what it means to be a Libertarian... here's a hint - it sure beats swinging from the nutsacks of your elected political mommy and daddy.

Well here is some research on them

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gar ... ABC-News-2

"But belonging to the Libertarian Party, identifying as a libertarian and being open to libertarian ideas are different things. Johnson is hoping to make inroads with the latter two groups. The shorthand pitch is social liberalism, fiscal conservatism — supporting the legalization of marijuana, the elimination of the IRS, abortion rights, and a balanced budget through cuts to entitlements and military spending."

No thank you

Yes for Hillary Clinton,Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie

They have better and smarter ideas for governance of our great country.

A Libertarian in the White House smoking a joint at 3 AM when the phone is ringing.

I don't think so.

Telcoman

I'm impressed. Someone that doesn't watch Fox news, or Hannity can so accurately parrot them. I mean, it's as if you were reading from the same script. Another good thing to come out of this though, finding a red state denizen that does not require crayons and comic fonts to follow along is refreshing. For this, I tip my hat to you. I assure you, there aren't many like you in that regard.

I'll wade through the rest of your palaver now if I may. It smells remarkably familiar.

You don't watch TV. KFYI. You get your Rush Limbaugh fix there? Amirite again? Someone is surely feeding you this line of crap you've bought into. Has be Hannity and Limbaugh, mass media's purveyors of prevarication belching their daily diatribe of deception and mendacity. Your points are congruent with their daily ramblings, in fact, they fit those two better than my hands do on a pair of D cups.

Blind party loyalty? Forgetting that Trump is the one with the, albeit reserved and forced, blind party loyalty. Hannity and Limbaugh made the same mistake, so it's forgivable. But then, they are paid to be political idiots, so they really have no choice. Certainly Obama choose the Democrat, I mean, seriously, who won't come November? Look at the bright side. just like you have undoubtedly complained about Obama, (judging from your political comments) he will go down in history as one of the least controversial presidents ever. No scandals, no dirty laundry, no shame.

You didn't bring Bill's sexual misdeeds up because...why again? Because it somehow reflects on Hillary's character? Was that it? Again, very Hannity and Limbaugh of you. They maturate in the same stagnant pond of beguilement. Heck, I bet the flies mass and circle the radio when they are on. With a little practice, you can easily recognize the stench and avoid it though.

Libertarian - not taking sides. Well there's a hoot. My friend, you've taken a side. As I've pointed out, that side is the same one Hannity and Limbaugh are on. So forgive me if I believe birds of a feather do flock together.

Okay, it's your turn. Let's see you fart glitter on this one.

telcoman wrote: ...

She is however the most qualified to be the next POTUS.

...

Telcoman

Thought you might like to see this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_H ... ents,_2016
Edited to add. A simple search count returned 3725 endorsements on that page.

By comparison, Trump's page returned 474.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_D ... ents,_2016

I suspect that's the way the national election will go.

Good find!

I suspect the numbers for Hillary will be increasing while the present numbers for Trump will be declining.

Telcoman

If she is elected, she will be the first president to have to wear an ankle tracker as a condition of her house arrest.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... on-emails/

The FBI is conducting a high-stakes “criminal investigation” into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email practices, a federal judge confirmed Tuesday in a memo that said her tech guru can keep his immunity agreement private.

Every U.S. Presidential election anymore is between a giant douche and turd sandwich.

I vote for the one that will do the least damage overall to me, my family, and my country.

And I don't watch any 24 hours need network, or TV much at all. I prefer reading multiple news articles (not opinionated crap) and come to my own conclusions and base my decisions based on the best, most up to date facts that I can find. It's a shame how people don't make decisions the old fashioned way with rational thought and critical thinking.

Funniest poll ever. Utah. the reddest of all red states. 35% Trump, 35% Clinton. Even the Republican stronghold state is folding.

Hillary has won. Take it to the bank.

That means 30% would rather have nothing. You are proud of that? No wonder you actively support a criminal, you have no standards.