I HATE WANNA BE THUGS...[pics to show why]

[AZhitman]

Dang... Here's my take on this whole thing:

I'm 34 (in June). Been in quite a few scraps in my day, mainly because I'm a smartarse. Won most, lost a few. Never threw first. Never.

I carry an ASP in my car, and sometimes on my person. Never had occasion to use it. Hope I never do.

I'm having a real hard time understanding how you can say, "I don't go running to the PD to solve my problems, that ain't my style." However, you have no problem getting friends to back you up in seeking revenge. Wonder what would happen if you were like me, and had lots of PD friends? Quite the quandry, eh?

Anyway, lots of people talk a big game, but unless you've ever drawn back your fist and punched someone in the head with the intent to hurt them, you don't know what it feels like. It ain't the movies, kids - it hurts like hell, and you're probably gonna break a bone or two if you throw hard enough. You'll get one punch, and it better be a good one - then your hand swells up like Professor Clump and you say M*$^*(#^$) F)(&$^*##)($ THAT HURTS!!!! Trust me on this one, LOL!

And to think you're gonna jack someone with a bat/stick/club/baton is the same way - As human beings, we have an innate resistance to hurting our fellow man - Subconsciously, you'll back off just before impact - Then you're likely to get beat down for trying.

The smartest thing I've read in this thread? Don't get high and hang out on the porch where you can get thumped. I hope you get better soon.

Busted lips and pride? They heal. Crushed skulls and big holes through bodies don't. Be careful out there, it just ain't worth it.

[yashin]

The thing is, in attacking you he is knowinlgy placing both you and him in a sitaution where death is a very real possibility. By attacking you he is giving up any right that he has to safety.

Look at it this way. Guy comes up to you with a baseball bat. Now all he needs is one good swing to kill you. That's it. Now, if you had to choose the best weapon at this point what would it be. A knife, hell no, you'd have to get close to him.A bat/club/extendo is an option, but remember he needs one hit to kill you. It's essentially 50/50 at this point, either he hits you or you hit him, whomever hits first wins.

If you want to gamble on that 50% and possible die, then by all means go ahead. But if I have a gun and pull it out he will have no chance. If nothing else he will most likely back off. If not, he is asking for it by charging at you with a weapon.

[Healing]

Amen to what AZHitman said.

[yashin]

Dang... Here's my take on this whole thing:

The smartest thing I've read in this thread? Don't get high and hang out on the porch where you can get thumped. I hope you get better soon.

So because of others, you shouldn't sit on your porch? Is that what it's come to?

[downshift]

Busted lips and pride? They heal. Crushed skulls and big holes through bodies don't. Be careful out there, it just ain't worth it.

Well....ladies and gentlemen lets pack up shop, discussion is done and wrapped up with that quote. People dont know how serious weapons are nowdays. Its becoming too easy to take lives and it should not be that way. Sure i wouldnt want nobody to hit me in the head and kill me with a bat but im sure i would see him coming first so that gives me enough time to get ready. Guns are just the worst thing in the wrong set of hands. I respect people more who own a gun and only uses it in case of emergency than just busting it out every time something look like its gonna get rough. People just need to relax and not always resort to extreme violence cause there aint nothing wrong with a lil scuffle once in a while just make sure its not too serious.

[yashin]

If people would just fight fair this wouldn't happen,

Ie. no calling someone else to fight for you.

[RMiller]

true, but one dude against a 300 lb weight lifter isnt exactly fair either. i dont really get in fights, and i dont think ill ever have to.

Since you're referring to using a knife, I figured I had to say something. I think what happened was much better than what could have happened if Nightfall had used a knife. Better that he got a minor injury than him stabbing someone.

I figure, since I'm never looking to start trouble, if I need to defend myself I'm going straight for the eyes, balls, and throat.

Whoever thinks they can "take" a 6 ft 300lb guy(assuming you're average, like 5-8 170 or so) you better think again. Weight and height are huge advantages, more power, more reach. One time I boxed a guy for fun(if you do this, wear head gear) with just gloves; this guy was 6-4, 315, overweight, and it was impossible to take him. I'm not a small guy, either, at 5-11, 187, I can put up a few reps at 255 on the bench. The size thing is a huge deal. Then again, I didn't go for the crotch, which would have been an easy target. Hehe...

[Cold_Zero]

Well....ladies and gentlemen lets pack up shop, discussion is done and wrapped up with that quote.

I am glad you see it his way.Nightfall, I hope your wounds heal quickly. That looks like it hurt.

On that note.

EOD