I hate stupid drivers.

[Lsnaple]

the only attitude i have is with you bubba.i am going to slow down, and no i didnt feel that the cop shouldve gave me a warning.quit telling me to grow up and calling me kid.i am very responsible.the only reason i brought up the other scenarios is to show that there are much worse people out there.i have learned that it was dumb, so i guess its "obvious" that im not dodging my responsibility.

[Bubba1]

Oh, do I exceed the speed limit? Yes, at times. it's SAFER to keep up with traffic. Have I driven 79 in a 55 zone? No. Have I ever lost my license or gotten a speeding ticket? No. Do I race? Yep, but ONLY on race tracks. Am I a good driver? Well, Michael Schumaker doesn't have to fear my replacing him anytime soon. But I know I'm safe and I keep trying to improve. Will I get off your case now? Yes, unless you respond in a way that makes me want to respond back to you. Regards.

[Bubba1]

I typed my last message without seeing your response. I'm guilty of not being able to read between the lines or your thoughts, young Sywalker. Your post communicated a different message. You implied there are people that drive worse than you so why as a teenager, should you be punished more severely. Sorry, that doesn't sounds like a kid. I doubt I'm the only one who interpreted it that way. I sincerely hope you mean what you say and become a good driver. Regards. Yoda.

[Lsnaple]

thanks.thats all i wanted.

this is the first time ive ever noticed an arguement ended without the post being closed. i think yall should give us a slap on teh back for that!

[C-Kwik]

How about no scott? I never once describe myself as a person going 50mph. If you read what I posted I said "the guy" not "me" If you noticed what I wrote next to the supposed me in the drawing you would see a note about "me knowing a dumbass is up ahead" and nothing about me traveling at 50 mph. Hmm...seems like I'm exercising caution there. I mean, if there's a dumbass up ahead of course something could happen.



Oh well. ***** and moan about it all you want too but it's state law here, and apprently in AZ too.



While this is true, if the other driver did not yeild to someone who is already yeilding then a wreck never would have occured. There's not a law here that says if someone is waiting more than a minute you have to stop and let them out, they can wait as long as it takes to get out.



Yeah, I'm not saying that people can haul *** and expect nothing to be their fault. However, when someone comes from almost out of nowhere there's no safe speed to travel.

Well liability generally comes down to what a reasonably prudent driver would do. I work auto insurance claims for a living and unfortunately, there are a lot of ignorant drivers out there. Or at least they claim to be. They tend to base their driving on how people should be driving and not how people actually do. It's common knowledge in claims not to assume anything. But as a driver, I assume everyone else out on the road is the worst driver possible. This way nothing surprises me. =)

As far as law, law means nothing in liability by itself. Breaking the law has to trigger causation in order for a person to be legally responsible. As an example, it would be hard to find fault on an illegally parked car that was hit. Yes, it was parked illegally, but the driver of the moving car actually caused the accident. DUIs and driving on a suspended or no license also applies here. If your drunk, but get rear ended at a stoplight, how can you be at fault. Being drunk didn't cause the accident. Though, I have heard of some states where they passed certain legislation to limit rights of those that were DUI when involved in an accident, but in civil law, the law itself does not necessarily mean anything.

Yes, it is a duty to yield, but given the situation, if the other driver is speeding, then the driver that is pulling out can't see him coming early enough. Ever try to turn onto a road that has a sharp curve nearby. Get a little nervous? Sure. You can't see what's coming, especially if they are speeding. Very similar here. The driver of the car coming down the open lane should have some expectation that someone may be pulling out.

And I agree there are plenty of situations where there was absolutely nothing you could have done better.

BTW, I'm more trying to shed light as to how insurance adjusters think in terms of liability. Personally, as an adjuster, Icould care less how many laws you break on the road. As long as you don't cause any accidents. Underwriters would disagree with me though. =)

[C-Kwik]

i never said i was a good driver and i never said it was smart for me to drive fast.by me saying that i got a 95 and aced my tests, was to show i am responsible MOST of the time, but of course i know im not all the time.i dont dart out in front of traffic and i dont haul *** around town, i was driving down a long straight away with very little traffic down a highway.i know that wasnt smart either, but im impatiant.

i know i said i drive fast and i meant down long straight aways, not all the time everywhere.i drive within my limits and experiance, which of course is probably less than yall (as you refer to me as teenager, and i assume your older than me). i go the speed limit most of the time and i drive anywhere from 5-whatever under when the weather isnt great.

AGAIN, IM NOT SAYING IM A GOOD DRIVER.also, people under 18 will lose them for pretty much anything. i was supposedly going "79" in a 55. the lady,a schoolteacher, that went before me in the courtroom, was going 105 in a 55 and it was her 3rd in 2 years.because shes older than me , im guessing about 30, does that make her a better driver? i have a friend,stupid one but a friend, that had 13 wrecks in 11 months, but she still has her license.i guess shes also better than me cause she still has hers.

i think that theres a line between being responsible and just ****ty. im not always responsible, but im far from ****ty and im definately not near the best.

DO YOU ALWAYS DRIVE RESPONSIBLY AND UNDER THE SPEED LIMIT? if not, how about getting of my case.

I don't ever say there are good drivers and bad drivers. Even the best drivers make mistakes. We are all only human. I would say there are inexperienced drives. Being on the road more makes you more aware of what other people do. And unfortunately for young drivers, courts and juries know this and may make assumptions.

[big jon's 240]

here is another way to look at it:a. No tickets = no finesb. No tickets = cheaper insurancec. a + b = More money for 240 parts!:ylsuper