PalmerWMD wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:08 pm

I shouldn't have to ask, but this is intended to be satire, right?

krimsonviper wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:05 am

Oh yeah, I completely forgot the concentration camps.

krimsonviper wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:14 pm

It's funny you say that because you attack me and not the point.

PalmerWMD wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:44 am

krimsonviper wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:14 pm

It's funny you say that because you attack me and not the point.

Fair enough Sir, but I just been learning from the left lately.
and your " talking points" are mostly just slogans even some of the cartelmedia no longer uses thats how badly they are debunked.
You're still slinging insults and trying to make it right by doing a whataboutism.
And of course its impossible to debate a political Slogan.
And frankly I didnt know anyone short of an antifa/blm/revcom operative that would parrot them.

I do however know the republic is under threat by the left but their foot soldiers will not like the totalitarian dystopia they get, if they were to "win".
But then it will be too late.
And the Republic isn't under threat by neo-naziism, Fox, CNN, and MSNBC propaganda and going to completely ignore that problem and point towards the left? The Republic is more under threat by money than any one side but you still choose to point towards the left. Got it.
Certainly there are no shortages of present or historical examples for you to study..

But what the hey... Ill bite with just one of the "points"

"Hundreds of thousands needlessly dead"?

Let me just pick this one.

I just happen to be a BioChemist, who warned about the coming pandemic before anyone else in my organization.. and who has developed an early detection protocol for mobile labs that has now been used on thousands of patients..
Might be a biochemist, but what do you do? Are you in the midst of it?

So I know a bit more about SARS-CoV-2 (the etiologic agent of COVID19), than the average bear..

First of all the COVID19 deaths in this country are not 100s of thousands, no matter how many times CNN says it..Or CDC, but I guess we can ignore that
The record keeping is absurd because we incentivize declaring any death were the person might have been infected (even if in the past and now immune)Immunity isn't a guranteed thing, there's been a few reinfections. That's the problem with the whole "take off your masks! Or "it's just a spicy flu, man" There's permanent damage, if not death, and you don't become immune simply because you've been infected once a COVID 19 death.
As an extreme example there is at least one case of a young man who died in traffic accident and who had previously been positive and his death was "counted" as a "COVID19 fatality".
You're going to tell me that at least 60% of the death's reported as COVID cause aren't actually COVID? That's conspiracy level tin foil there to think the government is that bad and if it is then I can thank the Libertarians, Republicans for cutting funds and Democrats not putting the money strictly into the needed fields and syphoning off the money elsewhere and all of it systemically handicapping the government from actually working.
Second Gov't, any gov't, has precious little ability to influence the course of a pandemic like this in any way... short that is of closing borders to source countries.
WEAR A f*** MASK AND CLAIM THE VIRUS WAS AS DEADLY AS IT ACTUALLY IS INSTEAD OF GASLIGHTING THE COUNTRY.
Which is what DJT tried ...but was prevented by the left who sued in various courts... to prevent the ONLY strategy a Govt can use in such a case.
Right, the left f*** up by calling it racist instead of calling for the cut off from all countries, and not just of brown and black nations. Totally ok to still bring in Europeans into the country even though their numbers were rising as well. The proper call was to cut off all travel in and out of our country and have everyone wear a mask but because Trump downplayed it, previously defunded parts of the government, the right and the sprouts of conspiracy theorist decided to b**** and complain and not follow orders and now we are where we are. Example: the rest of the world recovering. "Gotta have my freedom... at the expense of others!
Third, early in the pandemic the left also decried as "Xenophoia" any attempts at isolation from source countries..The left also did the "hug a Chinese person" initiative early in the pandemic .. this was at a time when most infected people on the planet (!) outside of China were Chinese travelers. Go figure.. but its Trumps fault right?
Right over my head. What now? I'm also just going to ignore that you're implying all Chinese people have a higher chance of spreading it when it doesn't matter what their background is and everyone should have been social distances or self-quaratined, but "gotta have my freedo" amirite? haha

The other points you mentioned are similarly absurd and intellectually dishonest and frankly constitute gas lighting.
Nice. Can't retort so you move to dismissal.
If I was a lefty I would be too embarrassed to use them.

It is however possible to be left and still demonstrate judgement..my great grandfather was an inmate in Concentration Camp Dachau for being a socialist (shortly after died) but he was described to me as a man of integrity he would have too much self respect to try to use such obvious obfuscations and misdirections...
You see back then the left was trying to argue against actual Nazis with truth.
Pretty ironic, seriously, that you would say this and being completely blind to see how you are falling for the same things you claim he would be against while not acknowledging that he would be against neo-Nazism. Aside from that comment, my deepest condolences for your great grandfather. I truly mean that.

Of course in today's America, the left would probably brand him a "Nazi" for not parroting the lefts intellectually dishonest and easily disproven slogans..
He might have been, or he may have been called a socialist marxist by the right. Kind of how no matter how far right and Democrat moves to the right to gain support and steal votes, it's never enough for the right. The left is pretty bad at slogans, I'll give you that.

Be careful were you are going with this.. as Voltaire said "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities"
Good quote. You should stick to it.

Rogue One wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:02 am

If you can’t stand Donald Trump, and cannot possibly fathom why anyone would ever vote for him, let me fill you in. It’s not that we love Donald Trump so much. It’s that we can’t stand YOU.
Just a traitorous comment. Extremely similar to "I will burn this place to the ground if I can't have it." Holds no candle to wanting to work with the community you live in. See your following statement.
And we will do whatever it takes — even if that means electing a rude, obnoxious, unpredictable narcissist (your words) to the office of the Presidency — because the one thing we find more dangerous to this nation than Donald Trump is... YOU.

How is that possible you might ask?

Well, you, knowingly or unknowingly have done everything in your power to destroy this country lets just ignore the whole systems put into place to prevent economic collapse Obama put in place but hey it's ok to still bail out companies in Trump does it, right? f*** yeah! 'Murica! What else has gone wrong under Trump's watch? Oh, my entire OP list.. From tearing down the police No, if you stop and think about it, community programs are in need to be created because police departments have absurd amounts of cash and need to respond to things they shouldn't be responding to. Why the f*** do police departments need tanks? Why the f*** do they need assault rifles? But hard to do that when Trump Supporters do no listening and just want to win the argument to cry out about their woes and can't adapt when there needs to be adapting. Like in a stressful situation and all the training that's been done was to shoot to protect., to tearing down our history they're suppose to go into museums, but really the South were traitors and should be deemed as such and shouldn't be honored by anyone one, least of all their descendants who claim they love this country, let alone be in a state flag as a blatant f-you to the winners. The history many Southerner's claim to want is nothing but a traitorous past and the fact they couldn't have slaves anymore. Don't hide behind the economy defense., to tearing down our borders many countries have fluid borders. See the UK and stop being in fear of something and start saying "we can withstand the coming issues." Sorry, let me rephrase that "I can withstand the coming issues.". From systematically destroying our schools This is not tied to any one side. and brainwashing our kids What are they being brainwashed on? Honestly curious what your answer is, to promoting and glorifying abortion Who the flying f*** is glorifying abortion? You know damn well you're pulling this out of your a** You know what the biggest issue is with you argument saying "promoting"? You're making it sound like most are doing it because they want to and simply ignoring the actual majority who needs it. Hey, how about teaching kids about condoms, sex, and a woman's cycle more instead of trying to go with the whole failing "abstinence" thing that has failed the US. You know who had the same 90's problem we did with teen pregnancy but actually slowed down the use of abortions? Finland. You know how they did it? Actually teaching things like what I mentioned: sex education. You want less abortions, teach kids and get them prepared like good parents., thug culture agreed, socialism a dirty word to fight off anything that might actually help the community. Oh wait, you don't want an actual community unless it's a uniform culture. Got it. and violence... Last I saw, violence is all over the place and not just a leftist thing. Looking at you second amendment! While demonizing faith You know what's funny about this? How about the whole Christian culture attacking Islam? Or Sikh? Or Judaism? Seems pretty on point hate for Christians to be doing the hating against other religions, even against their own but no one else can do it. Hypocritical snowflakes, the lot of you., family I don't see that, but knowing what your definition of family is here through a guess, I can see your point, decency and the whole electing Trump isn't a "decency" issue? Right. Hypocritical thinking., normalcy Nothing is normal in the grand scheme of things, so what "normal" are you talking about? Oh! Got it. I shouldn't have asked. and grace Don't talk to me about grace when the right hasn't been graceful lately since at least the TEA party movement .

From calling everyone racist 24/7That is definitely old. I agree... but I wonder if that's because racism is so rampant and deeply rooted and largely unseen by the majority or if that's just because people can't and don't want to see the racism because there's so many links and not just a clear shot to its definition..? to gaslighting us about 52 genders You got me there. I legit don't get it, but hey man, who gives a flying f*** what people want themselves to be called or recognized as?, grown men sharing public locker-rooms with little girls Completely ironic here considering your guy allegedly walked in on underage pageant contestants while undressing. Keep in mind, Trump is the one who bragged about this. You really shouldn't be wagging your finger here. And do you think people who undergo a sex change, dress the opposite sex and get looked at and get called freak and undergo therapy just so they can be pedophiles? I think the only ones who are to blame there are the actual pedophiles. I dunno about you, but someone cutting off their d!ck is a pretty big move considering the world is dominated by us men and at a disadvantage even if you have a small one, and normalizing the sexualization of young children beauty pageants and child marriage has been a thing in Christian culture for decades in the US. Again, don't wag your finger at the left for doing the same thing.. You simultaneously ridicule anyone for having the audacity to wish someone a “Merry Christmas”agreed. The left definitely has an issue with this. I'm fine with someone were to wish me a Happy Hanukah if I wished them a Merry Christmas and it wasn't a sarcastic response to me. The idea behind these wishes is the expression of joy to one another but ****s who are angry for other people don't have a brain.., or hang a flag on the 4th of July Haven't seen or heard of this, but that is sad to have any kind of oppression of wanting to share their pride in something they love., or stand for the national anthem I haven't seen this but I am coming from the other side where someone kneeling for the anthem is ridiculed when neither of them should be ridiculed for their expressions that doesn't fit one's own ideals, especially when someone isn't being physically hurt. Otherwise you're just being offended for someone else and honestly that's a terrible Pandora's box that's been opened when people should be focusing on changing themselves and not others and be an example of what they want instead of forcing others to conform. But here's a play from an earlier playbook "who started it?".

You want to take away the 250 year old right-to-bear-arms against a tyrannical or ineffective government because you can’t get the violence in the cities that you manage under control I was waiting for this to pop up, thank you. I've seen no pro Second Amendment people protect any one protestor outside of one instance. Outside of that, it's been nothing but Pro Second for the government that's actually oppressing the people. Pretty f*** appalling. And honestly, if the government wanted to roll over the people, it will but as I've said in another thread, modern governments don't require mass bloodshed to put the people in check and so the second amendment is honestly moot now other than to have people puff out their chests. I get it. Shooting guns is f*** amazing, but I don't see many of the other modern civilized countries needing guns to keep their governments in check. But I guess that could be because their political systems actually working. Even countries who are in constant protests against their government continually roll over their governments through protesting but lets keep on keep on beating that dead horse by pointing towards Nazi Germany removing their citizen's guns. I bet if I told you that the main reason why officers kill so many innocent people is because they fear for their life because the suspect had a gun so if we removed guns out of the equation you wouldn't believe me that police killings would shrink. Your preloaded rebuttal of pointing at Chicago fails, by the way.. Or worse, you are instigating that violence. Actually, the right would have more violence placed upon them if the right looked less white. Go ahead and respond to that. You want free-speech tossed out the window Nope, I want that s*** to ring free, but I do see your point about the majority of the left wanting to control it. As well as the right., and that those who disagree with your opinions are fair game for public harassment or doxing The right does that as well.. That spoiled children with nose-rings, tats and man-buns who still live in mommy’s basement should be allowed to destroy cities and peoples livelihoods without repercussions. Nope, I believe rioters should be apprehended and go to trial and pay for their crimes. The problem is the police have a hard time figuring out who's a peaceful protestor and who's a rioter sometimes or they instigate it. I do agree though, riots are extremely bad and it needs to stop. That chaos, and lawlessness, and disrespect for authority should be the norm "Rebels.".

This is the agenda, despite the occasional cringe-worthy efforts to disguise it. And you wonder why we find you more dangerous than Donald Trump? We’re on to you. You're blind to yourselves doing it.

Your narrative is a constant drone of oppressor/oppressed race and gender-baiting, intended to divide the country in as many ways as you possibly can lol masks, anyone? How about the entirety of the Fox News company? The biggest propagandist in the country, entirely right wing. MSNBC and CNN, too! Rachel Maddow does the same exact thing Fox does by yelling into the cam and telling you what to think and feel and it gets people riled up because riled up mass is easy to control. But you want to point towards yourselves as being oppressed when really the power is between groups is moving towards an equilibrium and the power that was once enjoyed freely is now reigned in a little. You sell “victim-hood” every chance you get because it’s such an easy/lazy sell Yes, but literally your entire argument is this, compared to incentivizing people to stand on their own two feet, take personal responsibility for their own lives Agreed, 100%, many people can rise above their issues, their own communities notice the flavor of "their own" as if it's not apart of yours. There's too much tribalism in this country., and their own futures agreed. But you won’t do that, because you know you will lose control over a free, self-reliant and independent people who actually think for themselves lol.

This is why we vote for Donald Trump Adult's acting like children outraging against change and throwing a tantrum because you can't see things in another lens and don't know how to deal with politics..
Not because he is the most charming character on the block No, people love him for that, too, and if you don't believe that's an immense factor, I sure he has more Kool-Aid for you to enjoy..
Not because he is the most polite politician to have ever graced the oval office He's not even a politician. He just duped people into thinking he can be one and now he's president destroying a nation and his support is a-ok with it even though they claim to love this country..
Not because he is the most palatable choice, or because we love his moral character, but because we are sick to death of YOU and all of the destructive crap you are doing to this once beautiful and relatively safe country tell me, when was this country? Give me a point in time..

Your ineffective and completely dysfunctional “leadership” has destroyed our most beautiful cities actually you could say it was Republic leadership that got tired of losing all the time and adopted libertarian ideals to grab more votes. See my statement about left moderates moving right for votes and it still not being enough..., our public education system and there's still not enough money in the system to actually do the things needed to fix the school system, but honestly the school system problems is quite in depth and requires an entirely different debate because this is a world of its own and if you want to talk about it, make a thread and I'll join., and done it’s damndest to rip faith out of people’s lives Listen man, if people don't want to have faith or have a different faith, that's none of your damn business. You're projecting is the problem and you can't stomach it and b**** about it up and down. and out of the public square I agree. Religious freedom is a problem. "I can't do that because it's against my religion" is a perfect example of religious freedom and "you can't do that because its against my religion" is a perfect example of attacking religious freedom and something the Christian right doesn't understand and fights because it's losing its power stake at a gradual pace and that's scary to anyone..

However bad Donald Trump may be, and he is far from perfect, every day we look at you, we feel that no matter what Donald Trump says or does there is no possible way he could be any worse for our country than YOU Not even if it means losing your actual freedom and the Founding Father's Ideals? Because you are losing that just to say "f*** you" to your neighbor instead of working together..

We are sick to death of your destructive, intolerant behavior and beliefs — posing as “wokeness.” We are beyond sick of your hypocrisy, lying, group-think and coerced ideological conformity we can completely ignore that this is all of Christian history outside of the Word of God, right?. We are fed up with your unrelenting harping, whining and first-world crybaby complaining while living in the most wealthy and privileged nation to have ever existed on Planet Earth lol. Making literally zero contributions while focusing on ripping everything down, never building anything up I mean it takes two to tango. As far as I can see, the Democrats has done quite a lot but I guess you'll just turn a blind eye to that, eh? Or are you just saying Democrats haven't done anything YOU like even though you have benefitted?. There is something fundamentally wrong in the psychology of people who choose destruction as their primary modus operandi. And just because you guys have decided to step away from the table and have a tantrum you guys will have single handedly destroyed the nation because there's no talking to Trump Supporters all because you can't have your way when there's a debate? The left is guilty of protesting and rioting as well but that's only because there are issues in the system that conservatives refuse to see. Just as a heads up, the current system in place giving places free community college actually came from a Republican who recognized a problem. You're probably going to go on and think "they stole that from us, too" but that's a joint effort. But Socialism is bad! Grr.

When Trump is reelected, don’t blame us, look in the mirror and blame yourselves. No, we can literally blame you because you want him. That's how this works. And it's an "if." I will admit he has a strong chance of winning and the left will be blind sided because they just don't see it but I'll be waiting in the back waiting to pick on everyone who's against making this country great. Left and right. I'm only picking on the right because it's happening right now and it's a blaring issue.

Because you are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump. You are the ones who have created this "monster" that you so despise, by your very actions Yes, true. But so is Reagan and the TEA party. The traditional right collapsed with the ousting of Boehnor. Thank you Frank Luntz! That fat f***. I hope he dies choking on a shrimp while getting rammed in the a** and if he's into that I hope he's plowing some stank a** dry vagina with blades in it. By your refusal to respect fellow AmericansOh s***, did I read "fellow Americans"? LOL, and the things that are important to themwhat about the side that's having issues and being completely ignored? Your argument can be turned exactly 180 and that's the thing you don't get.:
You make fun of the “fly-over states,” the people who “cling to their guns and religion,” the middle class factory workers and coal miners, the farmers who feed us, and underprivileged rural populations that you dismissively call “yahoos” and “deplorables.” And you act like you don't do the same thing. Completely blind to one sided hatred of others different of you but you're going off like its only you guys. Similar to the lefts crying out. The issue isn't one side making fun of the otherside, snowflake. Its that people are mocking people. IRONY You have mocked their faith. You have mocked their patriotismso does Trump but I don't see you up in arms about it. You have trampled on their flag there's rights to doing this, sorry you don't agree but you have a right to complain, insulted their veterans and treated first responders with contempt, hatred and defunding. First responders being mocked? Actually, as far as I can tell its only corrupt officers and not all first responders. If you want that title, you can look at the Republicans who continually shaft 9/11 first responders and the continual fight against raising the minimum wage and helping to make the EMTs receive better working conditions. On and I guess we can ignore Trump's feud with McCain. And the deportation of people who have served in our military. And the Gold Star family he mocked.Then you lie and pretend like its Trump doing it it's not just one side, that's the thing.
You have made environmentalism your religion I wonder what God's gonna say when many southern and mid-westerners appear before God and He asks what you've done with the planet he's given you or your neighbors who are getting hysterectomies while detained or kidnapping children from their parents, while trashing every city you have ever taken responsibility for. You scream from the rooftops about “global warming” and a “green new deal” while allowing tens of thousands of homeless people to cover your streets in literal s*** and garbage a funding problem and where does much of that money go to? Policing that can go to social service programs but I guess we can't defund the police because the right doesn't understand "defund the police" BTW, the green new deal would have actually brought jobs by the hundreds of thousands. But we can't have that because we want our burgers. Rawda rawda rawda, needles and plastic waste without doing a single thing to help them or solve the environmental crisis your failed social policies have created From where I stand, many red states have meths problems, too. You do know Pence didn't want to tackle the problem because of his religious decision? Sounds exactly like what the Founding Father's didn't want in government. You leave a trail of depravity and trash wherever you go. But we’re supposed to put YOU in charge of the environment while gutting our entire economy Actually the Republicans do this because of Libertarian views of defunding the government while also pumping up companies with social welfare when you can’t even clean up a single city My comment about Pence and Stockton has cleaned up a lot more than Pence's former state.?

We the quiet citizens see all of this, and we will do our rioting in the voting boothProtesting, you mean, and you guys protested by showing up with guns in Michigan and it was only peaceful because the officers were on your side and/or too scared to do anything about it. Keep in mind, my comments about the second amendment aren't lost on me here. I'll define what I mean earlier by saying "federal government" which is more what the Founding Fathers wanted to protect against, because you know, that's what they fought against. A Federal government.. When Donald Trump is reelected it will be because you and your “comrades” have chosen to trash the police, harass law-abiding citizens you know black kids get real nervous around officers for no reason, right?, and go on rampages destroying public property that we have all paid for, which you have zero respect for.Note, all this has been happening under Trump's watch because of his divisional tactics and not in the slightest trying to appease his opponents. Just bulldozing people down and it's quite horrific. Think of the Republican Californians he's actively not trying to help because California is a Democratic state that's opposed him on many avenues. What about that? Collateral damage? Not apart of your community? This is the problem when you have a "politician" not working with people.

How does it feel to know that half of this country finds you FAR more despicable than the Donald Trump you endlessly describe as the devil incarnate? Honestly, terrible. Why you don't feel that way is almost beyond me, but that's only because I know you guys really just want your way or you're gonna burn it all to the ground.

Let that sink in. You are more despicable, more dangerous, more stupid, and more narcissistic than even the Donald Trump of your imagination Actually, you guys think that but only because of where you're standing and not thinking.. Maybe allow yourself a few seconds of self-reflection. This election isn’t about Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden. This election is about Donald Trump vs YOU.

So if on the morning of November 4, or more likely January 19, by the time the Supreme Court will weigh in on your stupid mail-in ballot fiasco that we are headed towards, and Donald J. Trump is reelected... -Our- stupid mail-in fiasco because Trump put into place a guy who has self interests destroying the mail system that's been in place and successful for over 100 years and wants to win just to win an election or defeat people he simply doesn't like. We're in this f*** together and it would go a lot smoother if people would actually work together instead of rail roading each other.
The only people you will have to blame is YOU and your media drones. Pretty sure you have media drones that are buzzing in your ear, if I have them, too.

Hopefully, when that day comes, Donald Trump will then act decisively and unhindered by the need for re-election, to dismantle all of your institutions of depravity that you have been trying to impose on the rest of us for years now in your creeping cultural revolution and put people who have been having issue with the current system into your system of depravity?. You may not believe in God I do, personally, but this entire essay of your I've been trying to figure out your use of "you." the entire time, but you better pray that Trump is not re-elected. I will pray that he is.