Why?! How are you harmed by Xbox 360 owners being able to play GTAIV? Are you saying Infamous 2 would somehow be less fun if it hadn't said "Only on Playstation" on the cover? This complaint makes less sense than flying mattresses.alms24sebring wrote:But I guess the point is that I hate seeing the sharing of great titles.
This also is my solution.Amays U G37S wrote:Holy crap, Flying Mattresses?!
I used to hate when games came out on 'this console only'. I didn't buy that console, I want that game.
What do I do? Skip all that and keep to PC gaming.
lol yes, yes it would.MinisterofDOOM wrote: Are you saying Infamous 2 would somehow be less fun if it hadn't said "Only on Playstation" on the cover?
Absolutely agreed. I prefer my PS3, much as I hate Sony, over my other consoles because I like its controller design best, and its interface design best. That's what it comes down to. When I can buy games for my PS3, I do, for those two reasons alone. There was a time when I'd buy certain games for the 360 so I could play them with friends, but lately, I've got as many friends with PS3s as 360s, so online is an even split. Just giving some examples of how you first comment here is spot on.alms24sebring wrote:There would be no difference in the game except for the controller/controls! There would also be no specialty in a system I think, it would just come down to you would buy a system based on price or controller comfort.
All of this goes back to based on this, there should only be 1 system for all games.
Indeed, it was never PS3 exclusive. Every game in the series has been on 360 and PC as well.orangeNblue wrote:Assassin's Creed has always been out for xbox since the beginning
Of course they would.orangeNblue wrote:One universal console sounds awful!! People would disagree on the controllers, formats, options. I would think that it would limit the market because you get rid of the console competition.
Don't be so sure about that. Yes, Nintendo and Sony use open standards for their wireless controllers. But Microsoft does not. That's why there are no third-party wireless controllers for the 360. Microsoft doesn't license their wireless protocol to anyone, which means they're the only ones who can make wireless controllers for the console. There are third-party wired 360 controllers, but who wants to go wired with a gamepad these days? Depending on who built this theoretical "one console" you may not have any options at all.RCA wrote:A market would be created for custom controllers to make all those who have specific tastes happy.
It's still proprietary, dongle or not. The dongle exists to allow use of wireless controllers and other Xbox 360 peripherals with a PC. Used with a 360 it becomes redudant, doing the same job as the console's built in wireless controller transciever (I think the reason you can use it with the 360 is so you can leave your controllers sync'd to the same dongle and move it between the PC and 360 without having to resync the controllers every time you switch machines). It does not use bluetooth; the standard is unique to the Xbox 360 and is not used anywhere else. MS did this purposefully. So yes, you can use the dongle, but only MS makes and sells the dongle, so it doesn't solve the problem.RCA wrote:What about USB dongles for wireless?
The USB dongle is recognized by the Xbox as a wired gamepad but it communicates with the controller by 2.4ghz or maybe bluetooth? This would bypass the built in Xbox wireless receiver...
I could sware that the Original CoD started on PS only, but ok. Maybe PS and PC ??anti_flag_army wrote:After reading your list of examples of games I have to point out that:
-Call of duty was never an exclusive, it started on the PC
-Assassins creed already stated...
-Ratchet and clank has not been on anything but a sony console
-Spyro, I dont believe that it was on anything but PS but not 100% on that
-And as for the "Most of All" Castlevania, that has never been exclusive to PS, infact I can only think of a handfull that were on sony consoles, and none exclusives.
Er...no. Castlevania started on the NES. LONG before the playstation was even a distant glimmer on the horizon.alms24sebring wrote:I think that Castlevania started on PS and opened up to Sega later on but not 100%.
ALL Assassin's Creed games are available on 360, PS, and PC. Every one of them. PS3 version came with some exclusive side content, which is how they got away with the "only on" logo.And correction on AC: The 2nd one was all 3, but Brotherhood was PS only. I just looked on my Brotherhood cover and saw only on PS so I assumed the previous ones were too.
The original CoD wasn't on ANY console. It was PC (and Mac) only. That changed recently when both XBLA and PSN released downloadable versions, though.alms24sebring wrote:I could sware that the Original CoD started on PS only, but ok. Maybe PS and PC ??
No. I mean (for example) Madcatz creates "dongle XZY" to communicate with Madcatz controller "XYZ". Mean while Xbox "ABC" controllers use the built in Xbox "ABC" receivers.MinisterofDOOM wrote:It's still proprietary, dongle or not. The dongle exists to allow use of wireless controllers and other Xbox 360 peripherals with a PC. Used with a 360 it becomes redudant, doing the same job as the console's built in wireless controller transciever (I think the reason you can use it with the 360 is so you can leave your controllers sync'd to the same dongle and move it between the PC and 360 without having to resync the controllers every time you switch machines). It does not use bluetooth; the standard is unique to the Xbox 360 and is not used anywhere else. MS did this purposefully. So yes, you can use the dongle, but only MS makes and sells the dongle, so it doesn't solve the problem.RCA wrote:What about USB dongles for wireless?
The USB dongle is recognized by the Xbox as a wired gamepad but it communicates with the controller by 2.4ghz or maybe bluetooth? This would bypass the built in Xbox wireless receiver...
The console has to have drivers and and other support for the dongle. Why would it, if the reason for the proprietary wireless tech is to prevent the use of third-party controllers? Which is exactly the reason Microsoft went the way they did with it.RCA wrote:No. I mean (for example) Madcatz creates "dongle XZY" to communicate with Madcatz controller "XYZ". Mean while Xbox "ABC" controllers use the built in Xbox "ABC" receivers.
Why would it? What if the dongle mimicked a wired Xbox controller? Could it represent an Xbox controller on one end and communicate wirelessly to something else on the other end?MinisterofDOOM wrote:The console has to have drivers and and other support for the dongle.
Now im not trying to argue, I just want the record straight, Ratchet and Clank is still a Sony Property and as such is only on Playstation, Spyro, looking it up did end up on other consoles. Castelvania started back on the nes, and had a ton of sequels before it even thought of hitting Playstation (and it was on Saturn at the same time)I could sware that the Original CoD started on PS only, but ok. Maybe PS and PC ??
I think you missunderstood, my bad for not clarifying. As far as R&C, Spyro, Castlevania, I was specifically talking about the newest ones. All of the newest version are consulewide. I think that Castlevania started on PS and opened up to Sega later on but not 100%. And correction on AC: The 2nd one was all 3, but Brotherhood was PS only. I just looked on my Brotherhood cover and saw only on PS so I assumed the previous ones were too.
It's not the kind of thing you can disagree about. It's like gravity. Deny it all you want, doesn't change anything. CoD1 was not available on any console until recent downloadable versions were made. It was not a PS1 game, ever. You're remembering something else.alms24sebring wrote:I disagree MoD. I remember clearly I got the first CoD for PS1 but I dont remember if it was a PC game too.
orangeNblue wrote:I personally believe that the xbox online experience is better because its a better integrated system, bonus perks of early DLC, exclusive DLC,
Thats the ONLY perk..Morph wrote:orangeNblue wrote:I personally believe that the xbox online experience is better because its a better integrated system, bonus perks of early DLC, exclusive DLC,
Some of the worst things to thank MS for.
Oh how deluded you PS fanboi's are, sure you get to play online for free and can talk to your friends for free, big F'n deal. For the very small price of $60 dollars a YEAR, I can not only play online, but I can use Last FM to listen to music, Watching pre-recorded AND live streaming sports with ESPN, I can video chat with my friends, post on Facebook and Twitter, Sync with my home PC/Laptop via Windows Media Center to listen to my music or movies or videos that are on my hard drive or DVD/blu-ray player, with Zune I can dowload and/or rent movies, tv shows, music videos, and music. Plus we have an exclusive deal with Hulu Plus and coming in the update in the fall update we'll have Youtube, Bing Search, Streaming Live TV, Skype, and an even larger downloadable library. All of this you can do in a party, so if you and your friends want to watch a movie together but you live to far away all you have to do is log onto your 360, have and join a party together and bam EVERYONE in the party can watch the same movie or TV show at the same time, and since your in a party together you can still talk to each other, and if half your party decides to go a few rounds on COD or or some other game, you're still able to voice chat with each other.alms24sebring wrote:orangeNblue wrote:I personally believe that the xbox online experience is better because its a better integrated system, bonus perks of early DLC, exclusive DLC,
Thats the ONLY perk..
There are only 2 things you got on that. 1 being that you can play music while gaming. I can also play music but it has to be on the main menu. 2 is watching movies in a group. Everything else I can do via internet and PS already has a custom youtube, FB, and twitter format for the PS3. In the PS store you can watch and dl or rent movies in standard or HD. A few years ago the only HD thing was a blu ray before the internet got that too.Chaotic_Warlord wrote:
Oh how deluded you PS fanboi's are, sure you get to play online for free and can talk to your friends for free, big F'n deal. For the very small price of $60 dollars a YEAR, I can not only play online, but I can use Last FM to listen to music, Watching pre-recorded AND live streaming sports with ESPN, I can video chat with my friends, post on Facebook and Twitter, Sync with my home PC/Laptop via Windows Media Center to listen to my music or movies or videos that are on my hard drive or DVD/blu-ray player, with Zune I can dowload and/or rent movies, tv shows, music videos, and music. Plus we have an exclusive deal with Hulu Plus and coming in the update in the fall update we'll have Youtube, Bing Search, Streaming Live TV, Skype, and an even larger downloadable library. All of this you can do in a party, so if you and your friends want to watch a movie together but you live to far away all you have to do is log onto your 360, have and join a party together and bam EVERYONE in the party can watch the same movie or TV show at the same time, and since your in a party together you can still talk to each other, and if half your party decides to go a few rounds on COD or or some other game, you're still able to voice chat with each other.
Other than having a game platform battle of whats the best, this is the exact point of the thread. Alot of games signiture to the PS are now universal. Thats what I mean tho, when it came out, everything was on a blu ray disc for a short time. I hated GT5 and people in the GT5 thread know that. It was such a hype and I hoped for the best but being a critic, it f***ing sucked! I will give you that.Chaotic_Warlord wrote: I'm sorry but the PS3 has absolutely no real features that the Xbox not only doesn't have, but also blows completely out of the water, except for the Blu-Ray player, but who needs to put a disk in when you can just stream it, sure you may get that disk a couple of weeks earlier, but who really cares. Just sayin'... As far as games go, the only real "exclusive" series' that the PS3 has that I have any interest in playing are Metal Gear Solid, God of War, Killzone, and maybe Resistance. The rest of your "exclusive games" don't interest me in the least. So you have Gran Turismo, whoopidy doo, we have Forza and it's a far more superior game. I'll admit it, as much of a headache the 360 was when it was first released, they seem to have got that fixed and I'm proud to say I'm a die hard 360 fan. We have more games, more features, more everything and oh the XBL server has NEVER been hacked.