I am enraged!

[Inabj2]

I am so incredibly pissed right now.

As you all know I bought a 240sx. Well it turned out to be a ****ing lemon, I had it checked with a diagnostic by a proffesional nissan dealer.

in the 5th day, the "warning engine" came on, the car started stalling, it started missfirigin, and running very sluggish, I had to put it into neutral to keep it running during stops.

Well it turned out it was a failure code PO304 misfire on #4 cylinder, #4 plug wet, I needed a fuewl pressure regulator and 4 platinumplugs....

Luckily I had a 30 day warranty. What is to be done is obvious now. Get my money back look for a new S14 240sx SE. And refrain from missusing my martial arts on the ****ing red neck salesmen.

"Beatiful Car" ****ing *******.

He saw that I am some "s***" and thought he could fricking rip me me off, what this ******* didn't have the sense to realize, is that Im always smart enough to send cars to proffesional diagnostic testing.

Unless The other dealership agrees to pay for an entire overhaul on my car, and have that overhaul done at my dealer of my choice. I will return the car. If i were them id take this option. Its either losing 40 percent of the sale. Or losing all of the sale. If they choose to take the car back and scam someone back.... Is there a way to report it to carfax? Becuase the car fax record of this car is clean.

The thing is the car is very clean... its just that the engine is trashed. And did a shady rebuild, so it looked like the engine was running strong.

[Anand]

that sux bro... sorry to hear that!

[b240]

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[Exar-Kun]

tell them to fix it, and get compression reading on all cylinders before you take your car back, and tell them you want it in writing that they will fix anything if it goes wrong with the engine for the next 3 months...-chetTHEN beat the salesman with a pugil stick.

[Onizuka]

yeah that really sucks, its a nice looking car too

[Daunt's Chick]

That ****ing sucks. Sorry to hear it. Hope the little ummm... problem can be fixed though!!

[Inabj2]

However I do not trust the Sheehy nissan dealership, If they accept to honor the warranty. I want the car to be completely overhauled, and make sure its working correctly at the nissan dealership that its resting on now.

Or they can give me my money back.

If they fix their car in their shop, theyll "fix" it to shut me up and give it back to me. The car will work for about 35 days, then take a **** on me again.. ... When im out of warranty.

On meanwhile till I visit my shady dealership, I am looking at other 240sx SE S14 chassis, in the event that they refuse my terms in which Ill take the car back and accept the sale, and let the salesmen keep his commission.\

I wonder, which one theyll chose, either lose the whole sale. Or lose about 30-40 percent of the sale, into letting another nissan dealeship do the work. The seller dealership doing the work is NOT an option to me.

[240_Keyy]

dag yo, that sucks. I guess you should just swap in an SR now that you have the chance

[Inabj2]

Hmmm. my car is auto... swapping an sr20det NOW, would mean converting to manual now also. That and well I can't afford to do that NOW. I was planning of swapping the sr, during this summer. And I wasn't sure If i was going to go with the SR block I was considering the RB block as well. (obviosly id have to wait a little bit more if i went with the RB.)

And its the principle of the thing, I am not about to let some sales man walk away with a little over 7 grand. When I was sold something that was not as they promised. I dont think I should pay 7 k for a 1996 240sx SE, with a malfunctioning engine. Do you?

I think he should make right by me and let the other nissan dealership fix the car, and they cover it. OR he should give me my money back.

Its a real shame too becuase the car is extremely clean, that and I LOVE the color. And the car itself is extremely clean.

The engine was tampered and nessed with.. Id like to meet the previous owner ....

[r34 gtr]

tell them to give you money back enough to overhaul the drivetrain, then swap a sr or rb into it. this will probably not work, but it may be worth a try.

[Inabj2]

Thats exacly what I will attempt to do tommorrow r34. I wonder if theyll accept the conditions. Or would they be dumb enough to just completely lose the sale? I guess ill find out tommorrow.

[yellow_jacket]

Just because the fuel pressure regulator is bad doesn't mean that the engine is trashed. Believe it or not sometimes simple stuff happens.

More than likely they will take the car back if you start throwing huge numbers at them. They will fix it for cheap and resell it. And depending on the warranty they gave you they may be the only ones authorized to fix it. Kind of hard to say without seeing the sales contract and warranty.

[Former_240_s14]

That sucks, that car LOOKS sooo clean, just goes to show....cant judge a book by its cover....

I hate 2 things here....

1. An honest person got ripped off!2. A beautiful S14 being abused obviously by previous owner!

[Holisticbeatz]

Didn't you see any of the warning signs before you bought it?

[Inabj2]

heres what the ticket says.

Labor & Parts.Emmisions system"Check engine" Light on Failure code P)304 Misfire on #4 cylinder; #4 plug wet; Perform diagnostic check on engine - needs fuel pressure regulator and 4 platinum plugs $711.10

Engine mechanicalCheck engine performance very sluggist-runs rough stalls when stopping hast to put into neutral to keep engien running see line 1

Thats just the beggining. What bums me out that this happens in 5th day... It makes me completely distrustful of what other problems may lay hidden. From what the mechanic said, the former owner apparently messed with the engine a lot, and didn't know what the **** he was doing. The car right now runs... but on 3 cylinders. It was running strong when I Got it... but then....

[Inabj2]

Didn't you see any of the warning signs before you bought it?

no. Honestly I believe that the car was fixed shadily in an attempt to outlast the warranty... then brake lose.

Only thing I noticed was a slight knock on the cooling fan... But I saw that as trivial, and is unrelated...

When I bought the car ran strong, very solid.. Just a rather low idle...

My iddle was around 600 rpm...

[Holisticbeatz]

Did you run the VIN # through CarFax for a title and lemon check? That slight knock could be a bad timing chain ready to give way. I would hardly consider that to be trivial.

[Inabj2]

No it wasnt the timing chain ready to give away, Thats what I thought too at first.

I ran the Vin check through car fax it came out clean as a whistle... carfax failed me.

no problems detected, one owner car, car originally came from texas.

Tell you truth, I have absolutely no trust on car fax now... can you blame me?

IF i have to get another 240sx SE, ill make sure to get the car inspected and diagnosed by a nissan dealership before purchased.

[Antyoo]

Did you run the VIN # through CarFax for a title and lemon check? That slight knock could be a bad timing chain ready to give way. I would hardly consider that to be trivial.

do you still have the printed out carfax report and proof that you payed for it?

get a written statement from the head mechanic at the dealership it is currently at. i heard that if you can prove something was done to the car(engine problems, body damage, etc.) then you might be able to get some money from carfax.

[NISMOdrift240]

first off...word of advice. dont be a prick when you go back to the dealership. you got ripped off, face it. I work for a Nissan dealership, and i know what i am talking about. yes, we have a warranty too, and its in writing to back up our inspection. hopefully you read the details of the warranty before you bought it, or go arrogantly trotting to another dealer to fix it in hopes of them paying you back...there are one of two options when you do that....you pay for the whole thing, or they say scerw you, you own it. in which case you got nothing.

trust me, dont be an azz. depending on the warranty, you own it, as is. meaning youre screwed, even if the car catches fire at the traffic light outside the lot. thats the legality of it. just be nice about it, and ask them to work with you. be nice, and youll be suprised what you can get...otherwise you get nothing.

[SRJesse]

nismodrift is right....I used to work at nissan as well. TRY TO BE NICE!

BTW, how many miles are on the car/engine. These little problems can be fixed, nothing to get pissed about really. I can understand the fury coming out of you though. When I first did the SR swap, I was totally pissed and was about to swap back the KA motor cause fine tuning and figuring out all the little problems was such a pain. But in the end, patience is the key. And as you said in your first post "I am restraining from using my martial arts on the salesman", if you have really taken martial arts classes I am sure they taught you that patience is essential in life.

Again, try to be nice at the dealership and I am sure they will try to help you out as much as they can. Also, the KA is a very strong engine, I am sure figuring out what is wrong and fixing it is much more worth it than buying another car seeing how clean that 240 is.

Good luck man!

[krazy skwerel]

my dad and i bought a 240sx one time and it had a knocking sound i thought it was the timing chain. it turned out to be the main bearings. a pain to fix but not overly expensive. the feul pressure regulator is nothing but a couple bolts.

[Inabj2]

Well, From the explanation I got that power train warranty is universal. So having the diagnostic done by the other nissan dealership didn't void it.

Besides all they did was just check the engine, they didn't actually repair anything.

[khmaikid]

**** happens

[Inabj2]

Update, I talked to the seller dealership, and well thier law is on ther side, I cannot return the car until the 4th time I come in with claims. MD law can kiss my ***.

So it left me one option, on monday, they will send a tow truck to pick up my car and take it into their dealership. And free of charge repair the things stipulated in the original ticket, (spark plugs, fuel pressure regulator.)

However that is the things that it needs to even properly check the car properly.

After they do this, I will send the car and run another diagnostic check once again. Talking with the other mechanic that ran the check, looks like my initial suspincions of the timing chain might be right.. Also from speaking with the other mechanic, looks like the previous owner messed with that engine and ran the poor 240sx hard. At this points they are suspicions.

Well, Ill let them fix the original problems. Once I pick it up, Ill have my brother whom is a mechanic, take a look at it. Run a compresion test, then return it to the local nissan shop and run another diagnostic check.

[Inabj2]

And haha yea Jesse,, in my martial arts lessons, youre right, its best to walk away out of conflicts, the ones that I do engage I am supposed to look at it as life or death situations only... So in otherwise Im not supposed to use it. And I will say I haven't started any type of fights since then. Knowing how fragile the human body is, its just simply not worth it for trivial things. Heh I guess I was just venting off when I wrote the original post.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

haahsounds like my problems wit my exsisting 240sx..i bought a 89 that had a bad exhaust leak and some belts off.. and no a/c for 1200.. well i fixed alot of the stuff that was bad.. anyways my engine went to ****.. and then i got it rebuilt a total of 3times.. first time they did it .. idk they didnt do it right or something.. second time they didnt change all the parts out or just tried to get it by the warrenty.. and 3rd time it was perfect.. but then like 3months later.. my oil pump went out.. and my ka went to **** againloljoe

[PabloHoney]

No it wasnt the timing chain ready to give away, Thats what I thought too at first.

I ran the Vin check through car fax it came out clean as a whistle... carfax failed me.

no problems detected, one owner car, car originally came from texas.

Tell you truth, I have absolutely no trust on car fax now... can you blame me?

IF i have to get another 240sx SE, ill make sure to get the car inspected and diagnosed by a nissan dealership before purchased.

Carfax won't know if there is a certain part about to fail on your car. All carfax does is check to see if there are mileage discrepancies, any salvage claims and what not. I don't know why you think carfax should know that the engine needed servicing??? And I wouldn't be freaking out about a FPR going bad and needing new plugs. It's NOT a bid deal, things break on cars and this is an easy, and FREE fix for you. You also said that you think the dealership just tried to half-*** fix this until the warranty is up? How do you shadily fix a FPR so that it only works for 30 days? I think you are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.

[MainEvent212]

hey i have no faith in carfax either!!!

i bought a car that i ran thru carfax (Never failed inspection, never been in an accident)

very ****ed up

[Repo Man]

-chetTHEN beat the salesman with a pugil stick.

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