I am currently crying on the inside :cry:

[1sikvert]

Sorry for the Emo topic but it's true. I have purchased my vert back in late September of this year. About 2 weeks after owning it the auto trans kept screwing up bad, never shifting out of 1st gear. So I bring it to a shop that a few friends referred me to that have had their transmissions done at before. (BTW their cars were Hondas), so I brought it to the shop and they started to work on it.

Mind you this was October 15th when I dropped it off. Also the only reason why I had a shop do this work for me is that I don't have enough spare time right now to learn to do it myself, this is supposed to be my daily driver. Now I finally got my car back last night December 6th! Way too long to rebuild a transmission, I think but I can be mistaken. So, nonetheless, I drove it to get gas and then to a buddy's house and back last night and it drove awesome. I go to drive it to work today and I let the car warm up and every saftey precaution you can think of. I get about a mile from my house and I stop at a traffic light. The light turns green I make a left and all of a sudden the rpm starts climbing, climbing, climbing, and climbing. The darn thing won't shift out of 1st gear!!!

So I was like WTF?! And I try to shadow clutch the gas to get the trans to force shift but it still wouldn't budge out of 1st. So now I was on the side of a busy road with hazards on and hood open as cars are whizzing by almost clipping my car waiting an hour for a tow truck. A local sheriff stopped to see if I needed help and I explained what was going on and how my poor vert almost got hit by a few cars and he just said "Well you take care and be careful" and drove away!

So to quickly wrap things up I got it towed to the shop, had to wait for the owners of the shop to arrive to fill them in on what was going on, and I was about 2 hours late to work. Now I am just plain sad because I thought my vert was going to be fixed. I didn't hear any unusual noises, I checked the transmission fluid and it was at a good level, and I didn't smell anything out of the ordinary from it either. I'm just kind of stumped as to why they can take so long to fix it just so that it breaks again 14 hours later.

I'm sure they didn't do this intentionally so I was very polite when I dropped it off today but I did let them know that I didn't want them to have to keep it another month and that after I got the car back the hood is now misaligned and my rear spoiler is falling off the trunk as if they were using the spoiler as a trunk handle. Sorry to complain, I just needed to vent a little. Thanks for hearing me out.
Modified by 1sikvert at 5:04 PM 12/8/2007

[DeXteR]

zerothread?id=96505

it would do you good to read that thread in its entirety. as vert owners with the stock slushbox, most all of us have had the same problem. if you can't solve the problem after reading throught that thread, let us know.

best of luck.

[DirftKing102]

So basically I think you should make sure the shop you are taking your car to is good. Because it should only takes 2 weeks tops to fix your car. At least it did for mine when it had just as bad of problems as you are decribing. Make sure you check the shop before you take your vert to anyplace that you have not done buisness with. Hopefully your vert gets better

[jamesblonde82]

find a 5 speed and have them put that in instead....another question, does it also slip or just not shift?

[onosqv]

zomg, learn to use paragraphs at least...

[GoinTopless240]

what Dexter said.... that write up has seen more hits than many adult sites..lol.. the problem you describe is pretty common among verts.. most because all of them are automatics... unfortunately you might have saved yourself some money and time had you read it first, but that happens sometimes.... Key bullet points of write up are that the transmission loses the signal to know when to shift out of first. It really isn't a transmission problem at all, but a sensor. Nissan in their infinite wisdom (and redundancy) had a back up to that sensor, but it only uses that one if the first one is not sending any signal. Confused yet?...it gets better. If you unplug the first sensor (see pictures of block of plugs near battery) the car will shift... sorta. The Rev sensor is what goes bad and by unplugging it the car then defaults to the speed sensor (which is less effective, but gets the job done). Try having the shop replace the "Rev" sensor (fairly small job) and see if that fixes the problem.

Please realize that many a Vert has been sold because of this problem and the transmission shop either a)did not know how to fix it or b) raped some unsuspecting victim of their hard earned cash by telling them the transmission is shot and needs to be rebuilt.

Read the link Dexter posted... learn it like the back of your hand if you plan on keeping the auto.... or just do what many have done (myself included) and swap to a 5 speed (use the search button on that).

Good luck with it.....

[BiXLL]

what Dexter said.... that write up has seen more hits than many adult sites..lol.. the problem you describe is pretty common among verts.. most because all of them are automatics... unfortunately you might have saved yourself some money and time had you read it first, but that happens sometimes.... Key bullet points of write up are that the transmission loses the signal to know when to shift out of first. It really isn't a transmission problem at all, but a sensor. Nissan in their infinite wisdom (and redundancy) had a back up to that sensor, but it only uses that one if the first one is not sending any signal. Confused yet?...it gets better. If you unplug the first sensor (see pictures of block of plugs near battery) the car will shift... sorta. The Rev sensor is what goes bad and by unplugging it the car then defaults to the speed sensor (which is less effective, but gets the job done). Try having the shop replace the "Rev" sensor (fairly small job) and see if that fixes the problem.

Please realize that many a Vert has been sold because of this problem and the transmission shop either a)did not know how to fix it or b) raped some unsuspecting victim of their hard earned cash by telling them the transmission is shot and needs to be rebuilt.

Read the link Dexter posted... learn it like the back of your hand if you plan on keeping the auto.... or just do what many have done (myself included) and swap to a 5 speed (use the search button on that).

Good luck with it.....

Great post and advice!!! Could not have said it as well myself!!!

[Florida240sx]

Bad revolutionary sensor..... I used that to get out of my vert drifting ticket once...I had enough knowledge of telling him what the problem was etc. he knew i'd take to court so he let me go... BS'ing FTW

[DeXteR]

Bad revolutionary sensor..... I used that to get out of my vert drifting ticket once...I had enough knowledge of telling him what the problem was etc. he knew i'd take to court so he let me go... BS'ing FTW

sounds like a good story. have you shared this story in its entirety before on nico? if so, please post a link. if not, please start a new thread.

[Florida240sx]

Yea it's somewhere. I worked sales at a lumber yard. And one of our clients build racecars. He was 2 cars behind me one day at a light. I dropp the vert down in 1st and wait for the car in front of me to clear the light. I Punch it hard and then make a right turn and slap her up to 2nd contining it. Abotu the time I get her straight I see a cop pulling up to the light where he turns on his lights... I pull over and tell him the revolutionary sensor story of how it hangs up in gear etc, and I ws turning and just got off work and wasn't paying attention. He asked me like 7 times to see if my story would change at all which I just kept repeating the exact thing. If your story changes at all your f*(k3d.He let me go.... 3 minutes later I was turnign onto my street and kicked her out again And I couldn't find my registration or insurance, I had all my papers for taxes. Receipts etc and car was a mess.

[1sikvert]

Thanks for the advice everyone! I am not too computer savvy so it is rather difficult for me to find archived threads on here. But the mechanic said that he knew what the problem was (he wouldn't tell me) and that he had 30 years of experience working on cars.

I tried telling him about the whole rev sensor issue and he quickly dismissed it as if he were insulted. I did find out that the rebuilt trans that was installed did receive a freshly rebuilt valve body with good solenoids and everything. He also said that if the problem persists all the way through this Wednesday, he will give me my car put back together and give me a full refund.

So if all goes well, I will pick up the vert Wednesday night, get my refund because the issue wasn't resolved, pull the rev sensor plug out in their parking lot right in front of them, and drive home richer and happier than before.

Also RE: jamesblonde82, the trans doesn't slip it just won't shift and when I was able to force shift it, the trans would shift really hard out of first.

And RE: brokeAs240sx, I fixed my original post for you. Happy? I was in a rush to write it while I was on lunch at work, sorry.

And I would do the 5 speed swap if my old sports injuries didn't prevent me from being able to work the clutch. My ankle freezes when moving it a lot or applying pressure on it for a period of time (like when shifting) and it sends shooting and stabbing pains up my left leg for hours.

Thanks again for all of your guys' help so far and I will keep you posted.

[BiXLL]

It does not take great searching skills, just a real interest in finding your problem and reading the 3rd stuck thread down, "FAQ questions"

Here is the post on the transmission you need to read every post to educate yourself before talking to your 30 year experiance transmission mechanic.

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[1sikvert]

Thanks for the link BiXLL. I read the whole thing twice last night since DeXteR posted the link in this thread above. The links have different web address endings though....strange lol.

[DeXteR]

And I would do the 5 speed swap if my old sports injuries didn't prevent me from being able to work the clutch. My ankle freezes when moving it a lot or applying pressure on it for a period of time (like when shifting) and it sends shooting and stabbing pains up my left leg for hours.

sounds like a good excuse to me. ouch.

i'm looking forward to hearing the end of this story.

[jamesblonde82]

sounds like you really do need a auto...but not all is lost you could still go with something like this with the money saved from refunding. http://www.twistmachine.com/products/shrifter.html

[1sikvert]

Alright guys and girls sorry it has been so long since my last chapter in the Mystery of the Retarded Mechanic but here is my latest update.

I didn't get that car back that Wednesday the mechanic wanted to fix my Idle Control for free since when I start the vert I have to press the gas a little after it cranks over so that the engine doesn't choke out. So my brother and mom picked it up on the day after and when I got home from work I checked everything out. The Idle Control problem was exactly the same as before. He half a$$ed fixed my spoiler but didn't fix my hood Then I took it for a test drive and it drove awesome so I was just like screw it and drove it around a little bit.

Later that same evening I let it sit and I got in in and actually drove it to get more gas because they used almost a whole tank of gas AGAIN!!! And also mind the fact that they have put almost 300 miles on my vert in about the month and a half that they have had it and I have put only 40 miles on it since I have owned it.

So I am driving to get gas and the transmission doesn't stick but it starts slipping and revving up to 4500 RPMs before shifting when it used to shift around 3500 when the transmission would act normal. So low and behold, the mechanic had a flat bed tow truck sent to my house yesterday and picked it up to try to fix it again. It's really frustrating because a lot of promises and guarantees have been made and broken from this guy but I will continue to fight for my vert until she is all better and I can cruise around with the top down and wind in my hair again.

On a positive note, thanks for all support that has been given so far and jamesblonde82, thanks for the link. That paddle shifter kit looks pretty sweet. I had paddle shifters on my 06 GTI and they were fun to mess with! Too bad the new GTI had electrical issues. German cars usually = aluminum wiring which = bad. I'll let all know what's in store next as soon as I find out for myself.

[onosqv]

Have you considered trying to get a refund & going w/ another mechanic?

Good luck.

[1sikvert]

Have you considered trying to get a refund & going w/ another mechanic?

Good luck.

That's what I was going to do but the mechanic said that he has fixed the transmission's original problem but another/different problem has arose now with the slipping that I was talking about in my last post. So he says it is not his fault but he is going to fix it anyway since the transmission did not come into the shop slipping. Thank you for the idea and your support.

Also the car has been back to the shop since Monday and I haven't heard anything yet so I am going to call him later today and see what is going on. I'm just trying not to bug him too much to where it ticks him off so much that he says "screw it" and gives me my vert back in pieces. Then I would have to take him to court and go through a lot more hassle and then start from scratch. Thanks again for everyones support and I will give an update soon.

[1sikvert]

All right ladies and gentlemen. The possible final chapter of this story. I got home from work last night and as I pull up, I see this black car sitting in front of my house. It was my vert!!! My mom and brother picked it up yesterday and didn't tell me so that I would be surprised when I got home! I called the mechanic to ask what part did he need to fix in order to make it work right again, but he only knows like 6 words in english. I do know a decent amount of spanish but not too many words about transmission parts apparently. So my best friend (who speaks fluent spanish) and I are going down to the shop on Saturday to ask him exactly every last part that he touched, cleaned, fixed, and adjusted from start to finish so that I may shed some light on this fiasco and maybe even find that the notorious Rev Sensor wasn't the culprit for once. So when I find out I will let everyone know what went on to take almost 2 1/2 months, 4 visits, 2 tanks of gas, and 300+ miles just to make the transmission as good as new.

The only downsides are: I didn't get a refund, some mechanic drove my car about 6 times more than I did and had it in his possession for twice as long as I have, my driverside fender was covered in transmission fluid, and my hood was never fixed. Well atleast now I can hopefully move on with my vert and make it a daily driven show stopper as originally planned. Keep your eyes peeled for a few more write-ups and some custom work coming soon in the near future.

[Florida240sx]

For some reason I have a feeling you'll come back in here saying it is bad again...

[1sikvert]

For some reason I have a feeling you'll come back in here saying it is bad again...

I hope that isn't the case but I won't rule that out either. If the transmission ends up sticking again I'll just show the mechanic that it is still messing up, get my refund, and pull the rev sensor plug and see what happens.