Tesla announces a new Model 3 for sale in 2017

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http://venturebeat.com/2014/07/16/tesla ... model-iii/

Designed to compete with the BMW 3 series. :)

For around $35k ...

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They're going to have trouble keeping up with initial demand.

The Model S has turned out to be a finicky car with lots of things in the powertrain that can go wrong, particularly the drive unit. Fortunately, customer service is superb and early adopters know what to expect so owner satisfaction remains among the highest in the industry.

Appealing to a wider, more mainstream audience will subject Tesla to people who are used to driving flawless, faultless mainstream cars, people who have very high expectations for daily dependability, who are less willing to pay for the privilege of being part of a science experiment.

In this regard, Tesla could learn something from Nissan.

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This will pretty much kill the Nissan Leaf. An S model goes for $31k, and a top of the line Leaf SL costs about $36k. Plus it's smaller, and has a range of only about 84 miles.

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Jesda wrote:They're going to have trouble keeping up with initial demand.
well they are or have just finished a BIG upgrade to there production line that will let them build up to 1000 cars a week from what i have read and it can be any of the models mixed together on the line
The Model S has turned out to be a finicky car with lots of things in the powertrain that can go wrong, particularly the drive unit. Fortunately, customer service is superb and early adopters know what to expect so owner satisfaction remains among the highest in the industry.
i would bet that most if not all of the cars that have had the power train replaced had been pushed hard and abused most of the time and if you treated any other new car the came way it would be failing just as much AND they would tell you to go F your self when you asked for a replacement
Appealing to a wider, more mainstream audience will subject Tesla to people who are used to driving flawless, faultless mainstream cars, people who have very high expectations for daily dependability
what like the 10's of Millions of cars from other manufactures that have had to be recalled in the past 5 years?

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Since when has BMW had a major recall?

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Adverse Effects wrote:i would bet that most if not all of the cars that have had the power train replaced had been pushed hard and abused most of the time
Nope.

Read up on Model S drive unit failures. It's one of the hazards of being an early adopter. What keeps customers from souring on the experience entirely are the generosity of warranty coverage and speed of service.

The technology to be completely and fully refined before it comes down to the Model 3 level. Buyers in that price range are less interested in being cutting edge and more interested in seamlessly replacing their dependable daily drivers. The "wow, I was first" appeal wears off after the second, third, and fourth generations of a technology.

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Adverse Effects wrote:what like the 10's of Millions of cars from other manufactures that have had to be recalled in the past 5 years?
So, mostly GM, and mostly due to ignition keys or switches. Most of that recall has translated into dealer traffic which in turn has boosted sales and market share.

For most other manufacturers, there haven't been widespread, major powertrain failures requiring replacement of the engine. Most importantly, a company that takes a new technology and turns it into a volume consumer good has to perfect it before unleashing it on a lower-tier segment. The novelty wears off and practicalities become significantly more important.

These are the hazards of leadership. It's been true since the dawn of the industry.

It can be done. It can be a huge success, but it requires a greater level of care in anticipation of mass market consumption and raised expectations.

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