hp approximation...?

Post by **sunnys14** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:06 pm

the dyno in my city is pretty much booked for the next month, so i was just wondering, how much HP do you guys think i am putting out?

t04e 57 trim .50AR compressor .63AR turbine @ 10psi370cc injectors248/248 camsASP pulleyfidanza flywheelact xtreme clutchbd manifoldFMIC 24x12x3 with 2.25 inch charge pipesz32 mafsafc23inch downpipe + blitz nurspec R exhaust

any wild guesses?!?
Modified by sunnys14 at 1:54 PM 10/19/2005

Post by **Structure240sx** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:08 am

any timing retard? did you tune with an safc? 250rwhp is possible but it could also be making 220rwhp depending on certain things

Post by **K240** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:14 am

10 psi on a T04E, My wild guess would be ~ 250whp-275whp

Post by **:: orion ::** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:42 am

Too much for 370cc injectors...unless something with your setup is badly wrong.

A 57-trim T04E compressor will do a little over 260rwhp at 10psi...and 370s can only do ~250rwhp as a MAX.

If you're already running 10psi, you're playing with fire...

- Brian

Post by **sunnys14** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:11 am

Structure240sx wrote:any timing retard? did you tune with an safc? 250rwhp is possible but it could also be making 220rwhp depending on certain things

i am retarding 2 degrees and am tuning with an SAFC2 with PLX m300 wideband.

Post by **sunnys14** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:13 am

:: orion :: wrote:Too much for 370cc injectors...unless something with your setup is badly wrong.

A 57-trim T04E compressor will do a little over 260rwhp at 10psi...and 370s can only do ~250rwhp as a MAX.

If you're already running 10psi, you're playing with fire...

- Brian

so should i not run 10psi with 370cc injectors? GEO is currently running it and im pretty sure he hasnt ran into any problems yet... i hope!

Post by **HolyShiznit** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:15 pm

Sounds like you need a bit more tuning. The 370cc injectors SHOULD be out of their range at 8-9psi if that's a true T3/T04e. I ran .6 bar or 8.7 psi on 370cc injectors with an SAFC II and timing retarded 3-4 degrees and still trapped 110 all day long. Just be careful.

Post by **sunnys14** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:05 am

do you think it would be safe to get a small FMU (like 2:1) to help bump up the fuel pressure just a lil bit to get the 370cc's to flow a bit more for 10psi?

Post by **:: orion ::** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:28 am

Rather than a different rate FMU...you can get a adjustable 1:1 ratio FPR.

Bump the base pressure to 4bar (58psi...stock is 3bar, or 43.5psi) ...and 370cc injectors will flow ~410cc IIRC.

That will give you room to grow.

- Brian

Post by **Nismochick240** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:30 am

100000000000000000000000000000 rwhp... good luck keepin it on the road .... lol just kidding

i'm gonna lay a bet down for 324rwhp

Post by **K240** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:13 pm

Nismochick240 wrote:100000000000000000000000000000 rwhp... good luck keepin it on the road .... lol just kidding

i'm gonna lay a bet down for 324rwhp

You must be on crack!

Post by **Craving4Boost** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:44 pm

sunny how are those cams? whats the diff from stock. especially using the 2 exhaust ones. and off topic- how far are you from SF?

Post by **sunnys14** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:29 pm

im using 248 248 cams. lets your engine breathe better at higher RPMs with the loss of some low end. i live in SAC

Post by **sunnys14** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:13 pm

:: orion :: wrote:Rather than a different rate FMU...you can get a adjustable 1:1 ratio FPR.

Bump the base pressure to 4bar (58psi...stock is 3bar, or 43.5psi) ...and 370cc injectors will flow ~410cc IIRC.

That will give you room to grow.

- Brian

would that make my idle really rich!? i guess i can lean it out with my SAFC huh? u have any ideas on which adjustable FPRs to get?

Post by **huguetpj** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:30 pm

If your tuning with a WB02 you should be able to know if the injectors are maxing out or not. But it's best not to run the injectors at 100% duty cycle for extended runs.

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:47 pm

:: orion :: wrote:Too much for 370cc injectors...unless something with your setup is badly wrong.

A 57-trim T04E compressor will do a little over 260rwhp at 10psi...and 370s can only do ~250rwhp as a MAX.

If you're already running 10psi, you're playing with fire...

- Brian

SR's make 270whp on 370s all day, for years without issue.

Granted it's with an additional amount of fuel pressure, and they are pegged on the flow charts.

Post by **:: orion ::** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:34 am

Nismo_Freak wrote:
SR's make 270whp on 370s all day, for years without issue.

Granted it's with an additional amount of fuel pressure, and they are pegged on the flow charts.

And that's where the newbs get confused...they read "270rwhp on 370s"...and it stops there.

370cc injectors, on a stock KA rail with stock FPR...will only do a little north of ~240rwhp SAFELY.

Of course, if you bump the base pressure they'll do more...that's how I did close to 260rwhp with mine (4bar base pressure).

...

And "sunnyS14"...yes, tune them down with the S-AFC and wideband...easy stuff.

- Brian

Post by **GEO** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:57 am

I run 10psi on 370cc's all day.. My turbo is t3/t4 57trim 0.48A/R tho.

Post by **sunnys14** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:53 am

i have a slightly bigger turbo than u GEO so i should max out the injectors sooner?

Post by **GEO** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:37 pm

yeh get a TECHTOM or a VV-T on it to see if the injectors pulse are maxed.

Post by **:: orion ::** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:30 pm

GEO wrote:I run 10psi on 370cc's all day.. My turbo is t3/t4 57trim 0.48A/R tho.

That does not necessarily mean it's safe, though...

Have you dyno'd...??? Do you run a wideband, what are the A/F's...???

Is you base fuel pressure still 43.5psi...???

If you're making less than ~250rwhp for some reason, then it's OK. If you're making more, then you're risking a blow-up.

Simple as that.

- Brian

Post by **Craving4Boost** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:43 pm

structure helped him through the whole way...and he definatley know what hes doing. Geo was using structures techtom and wideband and he was the one tuning the car.

Post by **nissanfanatic** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:15 pm

Go run at the track and see what your trap speeds are.

Asphalt dyno>chassis dyno anyways.

Post by **D1 guy** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:39 am

Im gonna say 300 and 325 ftlbs

Post by **GEO** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:24 pm

I was running 21 Degrees at 40%+ throttle and high 10's low 11's AFR throughtout the RPM rnage

Post by **Craving4Boost** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:51 pm

geo, i know before anthony got his jwt tune...his ecu was pulling timing but it wasn't consistently the same every time. how is yours? is it the same everytime or does it jump around to 17 to 19 and such and such

Post by **GEO** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:58 pm

it goes to 21 all the time

Post by **Structure240sx** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:18 am

we tunned GEO's car to be safe and have good power at the same time. the timing is very consistent. hopefully he gets home again from school and can bring it to the track

Post by **sunnys14** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:23 am

GEO! what are you using to control your timing? how much timing were you running at WOT?

Post by **Craving4Boost** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:38 am

his ECU automatically retards timing during boost. some of the cars have actually been known to do it. i think its like 4 people out of all ka-t's im not sure. his timing goes to 21 degrees in boost oppose to 28 at WOT which is stock. he used Structures techtom to monitor it

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