HowTo: M56/Q70 5.6 (VK56VD) High Pressure Fuel Pump Lifter Bucket Replacement

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With the recent reports of engine failure related to the high pressure fuel pump, I took the cautious way out and decided to check the condition of my HPFP; while at it I replaced the lifter valve.

I went for what I call a no-mess method. No unnecessary systems were opened and no fluids had to be topped up for this.

Parts & Supplies
  • The lifter bucket. part #13231-1MC5E
  • HPFP O-Ring. Part # 16618-1LA0D
    The manual recommends that the lifter & O-ring do not be reused. For insurance, you might as well buy the 2 studs & nuts for the HPFP in case something breaks.
  • Stud. Part # 08244-82510
  • Hex nut. Part # 08918-3081A
  • Rags/paper towels, cleaning agent
  • Engine oil/compatible lubricant
Tools I definitely needed
  • 10mm socket & ratchet, extensions as needed
  • 10mm wrench
  • 19mm open end wrench
  • *E8 Torx socket
  • Set of pliers
Optional tools
  • 19mm flare nut wrench might offer more security
  • *pry tool for push clips
  • *siphon or syringe
The EdBwoy Method
  1. Cut the fuel supply* and crank the car a few times until it can't run anymore. You could pull the fuse, or do it like me and disconnect the electrical plug.
  2. Let the engine cool down
  3. Remove the engine cover (Two 10mm bolts)
  4. Open the radiator cap and lower the coolant level in the filler neck. Siphon it out, or do it like me and just coerce the coolant into the reservoir
  5. Remove the rear coolant hose. The hose clamp needs pliers
    This gives more room to remove the foam over the HPFP
  6. Unclip the wire harness to get more slack. Flathead or pliers.
  7. Remove the wire plug attached to the front side of the HPFP.
  8. Not necessary, but you might want to remove the air snorkel for more clearance
  9. Unfasten the bracket holding the flexible fuel line. Two 10mm bolts
  10. Unfasten anything else that seems like it will allow more play in the interaction between fuel line and wire harness above it.
    Warning: do not kink the fuel line
  11. Remove the nuts holding the HPFP down. Two 12mm nuts.
    The studs might move as you turn the nuts.
  12. The HPFP will spring up and you can move it around to ensure it's loose
  13. You can try to work it up and over the studs, under the coolant filler neck, under the fuel hardline that goes to the engine...but you'll likely encounter some obstruction.
    Remember, you should pay attention to not kink the supply hose!
    This is where the EdBwoy principle swings in again.
  14. Remove the 2 studs for more lateral clearance. E8 Torx, swivel joints & extensions probably needed.
  15. With the sides clear, you can now swivel the HPFP a little more freely, and tuck it under the hardline & coolant filler neck as you pull it out.
  16. The plunger, spring and retainer will be visible at the bottom and the bucket will remain in the hole.
  17. Hopefully, when you pull it up with your finger, it moves, but a pair of needle nose pliers came in handy for me to pull it up.
Inspect your old lifter to have an idea how much more work you have to do.
Hopefully yours isn't too bad and the lifter bucket actually looks like a bucket with 4 holes, not a large gaping hole. Mine looked OK, as I assume it had been addressed during the timing chain recall. Maybe a 2014+ V8 owner needs to check their system as well and share what they see.

Some considerations
I recommend some cleaning of any obviously grimy surfaces, but be mindful of scoring any of these tight tolerance spaces.
Do not let any cleaning solvents come into contact with the HPFP O-ring. Handle it with utmost care if you choose to replace it, and lube it on the way in.
Also, please lube up the new bucket before inserting it.

Otherwise, installation is the reverse of removal.
Watching the youtube video in the next post might help you prepare.


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You are a gentleman and a scholar.

Let me add some parts:
O-Ring P/N is 16618-1LA0D
The Stud P/N is 08244-82510

Here's some torque specs:
HPFP Studs: 62 in-lbs (doesn't make sense)
HPFP Nuts: 16 ft-lbs
Bolts for the fuel line bracket: 80 in-lbs
(Source: 2012, EM-193)

Fuel Tube: 25 ft-lbs
(Source: 2012, EM-197)

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I'm sure with time people will improve on this method and find faster/more convenient ways to do this task. When you guys do the job, take pictures and share any other tips you may have. We'll compile all our knowledge here.

The studs were surprisingly not excessively tight. 5 ft-lbs sounds about right, since removing the nut loosened one of the studs.
It is however cheap insurance to buy the studs and a spare O-Ring as well. Thanks for the P/Ns

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Just for FYI this would be around $2,300 just in labor at the dealer.

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biggie wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:24 pm
Just for FYI this would be around $2,300 just in labor at the dealer.
That's insane. That's why I'm thankful for people who take the time to document things...whether it's automotive, technology, etc. And why I spend the time to it when I can. I know in a round about way I'm hurting someones bottom line and maybe affecting some lowly techs income but...they should blame their bosses for such astronomical prices.

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Awesome video & how-to, edbwoy. This takes the fear out of the job, and explains it all very well. Nice job. Glad the intake manifold didn't need to be removed. I think it's prudent to do this on my car too. Now I know how. :)

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Yoda's Master wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:34 am
You are a gentleman and a scholar.

Let me add some parts:
O-Ring P/N is 16618-1LA0D
The Stud P/N is 08244-82510

Here's some torque specs:
HPFP Studs: 62 in-lbs (doesn't make sense)
HPFP Nuts: 16 ft-lbs
Bolts for the fuel line bracket: 80 in-lbs
(Source: 2012, EM-193)

Fuel Tube: 25 ft-lbs
(Source: 2012, EM-197)
Good info. I purchased these bits as well (came out to an additional $19 with shipping from InfinitiPartsDeal.com). For less than $50, for a job the dealer wants thousands for, can't go wrong.

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Ilya wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:47 pm
Yoda's Master wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:34 am
You are a gentleman and a scholar.

Let me add some parts:
O-Ring P/N is 16618-1LA0D
The Stud P/N is 08244-82510

Here's some torque specs:
HPFP Studs: 62 in-lbs (doesn't make sense)
HPFP Nuts: 16 ft-lbs
Bolts for the fuel line bracket: 80 in-lbs
(Source: 2012, EM-193)

Fuel Tube: 25 ft-lbs
(Source: 2012, EM-197)
Good info. I purchased these bits as well (came out to an additional $19 with shipping from InfinitiPartsDeal.com). For less than $50, for a job the dealer wants thousands for, can't go wrong.
Hope you get your parts. Personally, I like shopping at www.discountinfinitiparts.com since they are an actual infiniti dealership that sells parts at low prices with very reasonable shipping charges.

InfinitiPartsDeal.com and all the websites that looks just like it are a scam run by GPG (GenuinePartsGroup). I had to file a charge back through my credit card company since they never delivered.

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Yoda's Master wrote:
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Ilya wrote:
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Good info. I purchased these bits as well (came out to an additional $19 with shipping from InfinitiPartsDeal.com). For less than $50, for a job the dealer wants thousands for, can't go wrong.
Hope you get your parts. Personally, I like shopping at www.discountinfinitiparts.com since they are an actual infiniti dealership that sells parts at low prices with very reasonable shipping charges.

InfinitiPartsDeal.com and all the websites that looks just like it are a scam run by GPG (GenuinePartsGroup). I had to file a charge back through my credit card company since they never delivered.
Interesting. I'll keep an eye and consider discountinfinitiparts in the future.

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Yoda's Master wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:17 am
Hope you get your parts. Personally, I like shopping at www.discountinfinitiparts.com since they are an actual infiniti dealership that sells parts at low prices with very reasonable shipping charges.

InfinitiPartsDeal.com and all the websites that looks just like it are a scam run by GPG (GenuinePartsGroup). I had to file a charge back through my credit card company since they never delivered.
A lot of dealers sell parts on Ebay. Like Ilya, I found the lifter valve on Ebay for $22.54 and free shipping.

I use infinitipartsdealer.com

They beat discountinfinitiparts.com's price on M56 manifolds - $630.07 each side plus $27.90 each for the gaskets. Discount wanted $662.67 for each side and $30.67 for the gaskets. (both sites will add $190 core charge per manifold, refunded when you ship the old ones back)

I will probably be ordering these items in the future.

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Ilya wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:22 am
Yoda's Master wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:17 am

Hope you get your parts. Personally, I like shopping at www.discountinfinitiparts.com since they are an actual infiniti dealership that sells parts at low prices with very reasonable shipping charges.

InfinitiPartsDeal.com and all the websites that looks just like it are a scam run by GPG (GenuinePartsGroup). I had to file a charge back through my credit card company since they never delivered.
Interesting. I'll keep an eye and consider discountinfinitiparts in the future.
You jinxed me! Just got an email update saying some of the parts won't be available until 12/6 based on being 'on order' (guessing from Infiniti). I can't wait that long. Considering cancelling the order and reordering elsewhere.

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Ilya wrote:
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Ilya wrote:
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Interesting. I'll keep an eye and consider discountinfinitiparts in the future.
You jinxed me! Just got an email update saying some of the parts won't be available until 12/6 based on being 'on order' (guessing from Infiniti). I can't wait that long. Considering cancelling the order and reordering elsewhere.
Nah, it was an intervention. :biggrin:
They have it in stock so they mailed my lifter within 24 hrs of ordering.

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A lot of dealers sell parts on Ebay. Like Ilya, I found the lifter valve on Ebay for $22.54 and free shipping.

I use infinitipartsdealer.com

They beat discountinfinitiparts.com's price on M56 manifolds - $630.07 each side plus $27.90 each for the gaskets. Discount wanted $662.67 for each side and $30.67 for the gaskets. (both sites will add $190 core charge per manifold, refunded when you ship the old ones back)

I will probably be ordering these items in the future.
I'll check them out, but I think shipping to me will cost a lot more. Since no one believes Hawaii is part of the USA, they like to charge international freight on shipping. :nono:

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Yoda's Master wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:24 am
Ilya wrote:
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You jinxed me! Just got an email update saying some of the parts won't be available until 12/6 based on being 'on order' (guessing from Infiniti). I can't wait that long. Considering cancelling the order and reordering elsewhere.
Nah, it was an intervention. :biggrin:
They have it in stock so they mailed my lifter within 24 hrs of ordering.
I have my lifter, but waiting for the studs and o-ring. But I might just forego it and do it without those two pieces and just be very very careful.

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Try your local dealership for the o-ring. I'm skipping the studs, but got the o-ring. My lifter is being delivered today.

Some rough measurements of the o-ring are OD ~ 36mm, ID ~ 32mm, 2mm diameter. Not sure what type of material, but maybe buna

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I cancelled that order in chat and the lady just straight up closed the chat right after cancelling. Usually they ask 'is there anything else I can help with'? lol. Oh Lisa, you funny lady you. Sorry I took my money back lol.

Definitely seems like I saved myself a headache there with Infiniti Parts Deal...thanks for the heads up Yoda.

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Just picked up the gasket and got the lifter valve today from the dealership tomorrow mechanic is pulling out the HPFP and see what’s going on keep everyone posted

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So my Mechanic for 15 years , replaced my Lifter Valve and gasket today the valve was in bad shape and stuck down for videos and pics for anybody interested . Also had the mechanic did an oil change he didn’t see any metal particles but they had to go somewhere . Said the car starts up normally now and rides fine but also said cylinder #5 coil needs to be replaced so he advised me to not hang on to the car for too long so maybe running it through the auction and grab a FX50 will see . But I defintely say 14 and up 5.6 engines are much more bulletproof than the earlier models. Hope you all saved yourself a headache

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So my Mechanic for 15 years , replaced my Lifter Valve and gasket today the valve was in bad shape and stuck down for videos and pics for anybody interested . Also had the mechanic did an oil change he didn’t see any metal particles but they had to go somewhere . Said the car starts up normally now and rides fine but also said cylinder #5 coil needs to be replaced so he advised me to not hang on to the car for too long so maybe running it through the auction and grab a FX50 will see . But I defintely say 14 and up 5.6 engines are much more bulletproof than the earlier models. Hope you all saved yourself a headache
Glad you got it swapped out, but you know what they say...
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Dang that worn a hole right threw the bottom. You're very lucky your engine didn't die.

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Very caught it right on time

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M56boss, was the timing chain recall done on the motor. As part of the recall it showed on the receipt that the HPFP lifter should of been replaced as well, my assumption is with an updated stronger part.

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Yes it was previous owner I made sure to look for that before I bought it . It was listed in the Carfax as it being replaced but I’ll call the dealership it was done to see if that specific item was replaced

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I replaced my bucket today. I saw some discoloration in the center like Ed did but otherwise no issues. New one is in and working great. Didn't do anything with the studs or o-ring.

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I replaced my bucket today. I saw some discoloration in the center like Ed did but otherwise no issues. New one is in and working great. Didn't do anything with the studs or o-ring.
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Hmmm...I don't know man; that doesn't look bad at all. If mine looks like that I would be tempted to leave it alone, but I would probably replace it since I already bought the part and the fuel pump would be out of the way.

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Yeah I kept mine as a spare, as I think Eddie did as well.


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