How to tell difforence between 94-96 q45 and q45t???

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

there are a couple 94-96 Q45s for sale in my area in the $5000-7000 price range and i dont know if they are the q45 or q45t. Dont the T's have the mesh BBS wheels or something like that? Educate me!

-matt

Post by **maxnix** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

And the rear spoiler. 1994 Q45t are HICAS, also.

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Sweet, check these 2 out, right near my house:

http://www.autotrader.com/find...ist=6

http://www.autotrader.com/find...st=14

although it looks like neither of them have spoilers...

Post by **maxnix** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

I'd look that first one over very closely. May be a keeper. Run the VIN at a dealer. Can't tell if it is a t model or not. Tires will be tossers in a few more miles. See if 60K service was done on time and what it included. Beware statements like "replaced transmission fluid" when all that was done was a quick 5qt. drain and refill.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

what do you think a good offering price would be? Im cheap and in college and i already have a car...

-matt

Post by **maxnix** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Look at local market and websites. Asking price is reasonable to me if everything has been done. Some NICO member should get it, if so. There is a real dearth of good, low miles 1994-2001 Q45 on northern west coast of US recently.

BTW, I would say these are not student cars unless you are experienced mechanically or financially well endowed. Some like 90Q45blue have made it work, but many have failed when they couldn't finance large cash outlays to replace transmissions, do guides, etc.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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Post by **Rex** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

I'd be REAL interested in why they are selling the first one after 3 yrs with so few miles. It's got "high priced repair" written all over it. As maxnix said, look at it REAL close, and chek with the dealer, especially if they took it to the dealer and got a huge quote for a repair.

The 2nd one is nice and the fact that it has more miles is somewhat comforting. Truth be told if the previous owner of my car hadn't used it as a back up to his everyday driver (Lotus Esprit) I would have been more worried.

I think there's a post in the "Infiniti Online Mechanic" forum where Dennis (Q45Tech) says lower mile cars can have as much wrong with them if not more.

Happy Hunting

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

cool, well thankfully my parents are willing to pay for my college education (well, that parts that arnt payed for by the state) and let me blow all my money on cars and car parts. I have put together my car all by myself so im not afraid to do car work, i just would like something for the very long trip in-between my campus and home that has 4 doors, lots of trunk+people space, lots of lux, and lots of power. I would use my 240sx only it has just slightly more cargo space than a motorcycle :pface

Post by **Jesda** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Sometimes I open up my spreadsheet and go over my expenses, and feel like throwing in the towel and getting a Maxima or a 626. Then I hop in the Q and remember what I love about it.

At 188k, I am due for chain guides, the second transmission (last one replaced at 30k) is in good shape but who knows what could happen. Things are in average shape overall.

I could get another car. But would I love it?

-Jesda

Post by **elwesso** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

If you are a DIYer, I think youd be able to handle it.......

My Q has treated me very well, and I am saving up for a new transmission as we speak (2-3 shift is slipping, and yes, im gonna flush it and all that stuff)........ Get your parts from Joe and DIY..... Its the only way in my book....

Plus, DIYing gives you more respect for the car...... IMO....

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

are part as expensive as i hear they are? i woud imagine its not that bad as 90-96 are all mechanically identical (right?) so there is a bunch of them.

and thanks for helpin everyone!

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

90-96's inded have a many inetrchangable parts but not all interchange between 90/93 and 94/96.94/95 are identical cars we can call them the 94/95 model year.

Between 90-93 some very minute changes every year.

A 94/95 Q45 is the least expensive way to drive a true V8 luxo sport sedan.

Fred..

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

have any of you guys had your Q's dynod? i was reading that q45racing site and it said they really have like 300hp as opposed to 278? (kind of like how the skyline GT-R has "278hp" in japan?)

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Its, tru how eevr with the auto transmission you lose quite a bit of hp, more than from a FWD car, BUT at least teh power is easier to control.

I had a 91 Q dynoed at almost 240 hp at the wheels, from a supected 300+ at crank.This was with JWT ECT but w/o, a throttle body cleaning which it needed and later got.A 94 will have less peak hp but will have a bit better mid range response.

Both are difficult to beat at high speeds, faster than a mid or late 90's BMW 740i at hi speeds ( even tho those cars are also strong at those speeds).

In Q45's I have won often against older Z 28's.

Fred...

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

According to best sources ( aka Q45tech)an early 90's Q45 will have about 317 hp and 337 lb-ft with a JWT ECU assuming its been kept running properly.

Fred..

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Those are some pretty damn good numbers in my book. I never realized you could get such a high quality luxury sedan listing for $51,000+ new for less than $10,000. Hopefully by the end of this summer you guys will have another Q45 owner on board (you didnt think i had all this cash right now didja? I got to finish my sporty coupe first! then the next 6 months of solid saving

)

-matt:fruit

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Actually you can pick up a poor condition but buyable Q for 4 K,.I saw a running Q with good body for 2 k a few weeks ago (but non buyable, too much sludge under oil filler caps bad injectors etc)A a couple nice condition Q's, are currently FS on BST.NICO members Q's are among the very best to buy.

Fred..

PS: In todays dollars my 1994 Q45t would be $60,000.

Post by **elwesso** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Actually, on the way home I saw a GORGEOUS green 94-96Q on a used car lot for 7500...... It looked nice, but most likely not 5500 worth...... Chances are it will need new plugs, injector flush, transmission flush, fuel pump, all new suspension components, and other things.......

Im starting to realize how well spent my 5500 was this past Feb.......

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

PalmerWMD wrote:PS: In todays dollars my 1994 Q45t would be $60,000.

yeah i will definatly buy from a nico member before some random dude on autotrader.com

Post by **maxnix** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Low mileage, properly maintained G50 Q45 are more rare every day. 1990-1993 are almost extinct. 1994-1996 are endangered.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

yeah, but i live in the suburban belt of the east coast, nothing but cosy pre-fab neiborhoods suited for the middle to upper class farther than the eye can see. Big luxury sedans are the ride of choice so hopefully my search wont be in vain

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

I see at least one good condition 94-95 Q a DAY come through our dealership, and several a month are traded in (and then wholesaled... sniff).

I can ask about a few if you guys would like - I get them for a nickel over what we (the dealer) has into them. A good AZ Q will have no rust and will be well-preserved, as everyone who can aford a $54K car HAS a garage (and I have access to service records).

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

so in your opinion it would be worth it to ship a car from arizona?

Post by **90Q45blue** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

AZhitman wrote:I see at least one good condition 94-95 Q a DAY come through our dealership, and several a month are traded in (and then wholesaled... sniff).

I can ask about a few if you guys would like - I get them for a nickel over what we (the dealer) has into them. A good AZ Q will have no rust and will be well-preserved, as everyone who can aford a $54K car HAS a garage (and I have access to service records).

Greg,

E-mail me on this when you get a chance. I may be looking.

Brian,

Thanks for the good words. Yes, I do pay for my own school and all the repairs on my Q but I've been lucky too. I do not DIY but my mechanic is quite knowledgeable and has been working on my car for the past 9 years/150,000 miles. Also, out of the 252,000 miles on the car 180,000 are strictly highway. My dad used to drive that Q all over the nation and took very good care of it. But I'm no fool, I do realize that I'm going to need to look at getting another car soon. The only thing is that the only car I could see myself giving up my Q for would be another Q. So the search semi-begins. As for now, my Q is in shop replacing belts, transmission flush, oil change, TB cleaning, can of BG, etc.

Nick

Post by **DAEDALUS** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

J-Spec Tuner wrote:are part as expensive as i hear they are? i woud imagine its not that bad as 90-96 are all mechanically identical (right?) so there is a bunch of them.

Most of the money spent is for parts you would never buy used. DIY is the biggest money saver, with savings via Scottsdale 2nd.

I wouldn't hesitate to ship a car from AZ if I knew the history and had Greg check it out first. And if Greg could swing a deal, it would probably offset the shipping cost. They're getting wholesaled regardless.

Post by **maxnix** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Getting a non-salted car is priceless when it is 10+ years old. Body cancer is very expensive to repair.

I went across country to Brooklyn to get my Seattle Q45. Geography should not be a barrier, but an opportunity.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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Post by **90Q45blue** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

I called about a Q at a Seattle dealer the other day. The car had 75k on it (93Q) but when I asked him questions he had no idea about the guides, no service history and hte transmission was rebuilt at 65k. So I politely hung up and moved on. Good cars are hard to find.

Nick

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Nick:

Not all rebuilds are inferior.With only 10k on itits likley in pretty decent shape.

As for the guide....

Well it <is> a 93 a quick check can reveal if its a late 93.If it <is> late build, thne the risk of guides droppes tto an acceptable leevel for me where I could wait some time before having them addressed.

Fred...

Post by **90Q45blue** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

Fred,

You're right but I just think there are better opportunities out there considering they wanted $9500 (firm) for it. I just was a little suspicious of a car that needed a new transmission that soon. Also, not having the service records or any info on the previous owners doesn't boost my confidence. Ah well, I'd rather buy one from Greg anyway.

Nick

Post by **maxnix** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:17 am

90Q45blue wrote:Also, not having the service records or any info on the previous owners doesn't boost my confidence. Ah well, I'd rather buy one from Greg anyway. - Nick

Run the VIN.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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How to tell difforence between 94-96 q45 and q45t???

How to tell difforence between 94-96 q45 and q45t???

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