How to stop drifting

Nissan dominates the drift scene - Always has, always will.
artemoushue
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My dad's an old racer of Corvairs. One of the best drifting cars ever built. Well atleast the early model, hence Naders "unsafe at any speed" As a result I am rather good at it and love to do it. Problem is I have a 95 240 sx that won't do anything but drift. AGX shocks and wide BFG kd tires and yet a mild turn breaks it loose. I have a stock 2001 sentra that will out handle it hands down. How do I get some grip in this 240? I'm planning on putting 265 35 18's in the rear someday but thats a ways down the line. (with the turbo). I also have th KA24 engine if that matters.


turbo_dreams
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grip? why would you want grip?? live sideways bro!!!

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ride4lame
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don't step on the gas so hard around turnsthis isn't that confusing.use less throttle, don't turn the wheel hard....

DarkStar
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Learn to control yourself behind the wheel?

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get some sway bars, seom front and rear struts, basically lower your body roll, if at all possibly, adjust your suspension to be tight, rwd cars = tail happer over sterring vehicles, enter a corner apply your breaks the coast into the corner, when leaving the apex hit the gas...get some good tires....

BuudWeizErr
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People who think that stock FF Sentras outhandle mildly suspension modified 240SX's are not allowed to say that 'Corvairs are one of the best drifting cars ever made.'

thx for playing though

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Grip Gambler
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try to look at how your car behaves and figure out how to put as much of a contact patch on the ground as possible, the right amout of camber and roll can make a huge difference

MainEvent212
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i was under the impression that the corvair was rated so unsafe, because in most head on collisions the steering column had the tendency to impale the driver

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FanBelt wrote:get some sway bars, seom front and rear struts, basically lower your body roll, if at all possibly, adjust your suspension to be tight, rwd cars = tail happer over sterring vehicles, enter a corner apply your breaks the coast into the corner, when leaving the apex hit the gas...get some good tires....
dont get both just a front...a bigger one in back creates more oversteer. and get new tires and dont hit the gas around corners

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You can try getting an alignment, after I lowered my car and before I got an alignment, the car would slide easier because the camber was way way off. Other than that, maybe your tires are too wide, once you go too wide you end up with less friction because the patch is so big that your psi is insanely small, which is why the rally snow tires are so narrow. I can't think of anything else that would make your car handle so badly when stock, other than bad driving, but I completely suck at driving and my car took turns fine.You can try putting some paint on your tires, or just some water even, and look at the contact patch. Seems odd you'd have to buy stuff to stiffen up your front on a stock car if all you've done is tires and springs. Assuming you have about the same spring rate all around.

cookiemonsterboy
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I agree. what they said up top. less gass, frnt swaybar, and better tires. That should help...

MainEvent212
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no...just good driving

you probably drive like an ******* and that's why you cant keep the tail end in

buy a honda and understeer into oncoming traffic

j-z
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im willing to bet anything that the problem is the driver. learn how to control your vehicle!!!

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JJ240
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Theres definetly something up when he says stock car with AGX and wide tires has the tendency to break loose in a mild turn. My stock 240 with kumho 711 225s sticks like mad. It should be almost completely neutral handling in stock form if youre driving correctly. If you go into a 2 lane wide 90* turn at 70 yeah its gonna slide a bit~

Dirtylou
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The fun of having an FR is to learn how to CONTROL the rear. However, if you don't think it's normal then I would get an alignment to be sure. If you still don't like it the try the Honda camp next time.

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masticatingcow
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MainEvent212 wrote:i was under the impression that the corvair was rated so unsafe, because in most head on collisions the steering column had the tendency to impale the driver
Yeah, that and that nasty tendency of breaking in half at the firewall. LOL. American auto makers haven't really ever had the same luck building mid-engined cars as the Europeans and Japanese. One word: Fiero.

574-240sx
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masticatingcow wrote: Yeah, that and that nasty tendency of breaking in half at the firewall. LOL. American auto makers haven't really ever had the same luck building mid-engined cars as the Europeans and Japanese. One word: Fiero.
What about death traps and engine fires?


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this dude is lost in PS2 wonderland...damnit look what nfsu2 does to the children

240sx2nr
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im thinking driver issue.... learn to control your car...

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Riceless
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I saw the title of this thread and expected to see a picture of a 240 wrapped around a pole and the driver's wife making him buy an fwd car. Random.

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hondahunter180
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artemoushue wrote:My dad's an old racer of Corvairs. One of the best drifting cars ever built. Well atleast the early model, hence Naders "unsafe at any speed" As a result I am rather good at it
damn, i knew i should've gotten a corvair instead of a 240!just because your dad raced cars doesnt mean you can drive for ****.

nismostate
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give the man a break. obviously a noob. anyways. only thing I don't understand is why don't you ask your DAD?? if my dad was a race car driver, i would make his *** teach me everything! hehe


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