how to slide your ride... TECHNIQUES POST

[futureSRswapper]

ok, i've been drifting for a while now and i think i'm getting better but i have some doubts about what i'm doing and the habits i'm developing. the way everyone told me to learn is to pull the e-brake, pull the e-brake... it works but i can't keep the slide going through the WHOLE turn. the only way i can do that is to go full throttle brake a little downshift and just before the curve steer hard then let off the gas countersteer, the open up the throttle wide open again. when i use the e-brake i hold it for about .5 seconds and almost immediately begin to countersteer. it always makes me go too far sideways and i lose a lot of speed and sometimes even spin out. is there something wrong with my technique? any suggestions? thanks and don't forget to tell everyone how you do it.

[Kouki Chick]

This might be better to ask in the drift forum. Try clutch kicking instead of pulling the ebrake so much

[boznuttz]

you loose speed and the sliding momentum because the loaded tire (outside tire) does not rotate under force in the stock s13 r200s. thats what we call open differentials. reguarding the e brake. you want to swing the rear end slightly outward, rippign up the e brake can lock the rear tires and brign around the rear end too easily. kouki chick has the right idea, its just easier to initiate. its all about shifting the momentum of your car, not just lockign up the rear end to swing aroudn with too much speed.

[futureSRswapper]

so what you're saying is... with an open differential, using the e-brake makes it easy to spin out. it would be better to go for a braking/dynamic drift technique? is the way i'm doing it now right? thanks for the fast replys guys.

[574-240sx]

basically get going. Push clutch in briefly, rev the motor up, pull brake till you are sideways and drop the clutch while in gear and you will continue to slide. Its a way to get started for a begginer sort of. Lets not do this in day light and in a school parking lot.

Try visiting here zeroforum/147

[futureSRswapper]

i am definitley a beginner but the only way i can get it to slide for any reasonable amount of time is to go full throttle brake a little downshift and just before the curve steer hard, let off the gas countersteer and wait, then i open up the throttle wide open again with slight steering adjusments. i only go mabye 20 degrees off axis but i can hold the slide much longer. it works well on those long, dull curves. about the e-brake technique.i have to countersteer after engaging the clutch and probably shift down again. this is where my problem starts... i'll just stop in the middle of the road sideways. or spin out. is this because of my open diff. should i buy an aftermarket lsd? what's up?

[JimmyMethod]

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Future SR swapper?Jesus. ****in' FnF Toyko Drift.Choke on your own semen.

[futureSRswapper]

ahh that was a decent movie, but i get most of my inspiration from initial d.

[Sleepy_Steve]

ahh Initial D -- good times when i drove a even more beaten down bucket making me feel like a little less of a looser pulling up to an eclipse and beating it.

As for techniques, go for rainy or snow covered roads, go into the corner at twice the speed limmit (not the ***** recomended corner speed) and make sure there are abundant telephone poles and or trees of equal or larger size.

And if ur realy feeling generous, do this alone in a remote area far from medical assistance, so that the problem can just resolve itself in a few weeks, less if ur good.

[Sleepy_Steve]

OK, my above post was un warented. The question was asked intelegently, and seems to be by a person trying to learn with effort and not be awsome throuh parts.

I am sorry bro, you didnt diserve what i said.

As others said above me. A lot of drifting methods will simply slow you down. Period. Except for dynamic drifting and break drifting combined with dynamic drifting. - watch the drift bible, good info in there if you havnt seen it -

Anyway as far as the ebrake drifting, you have the sequence right i think, but the timing is obviously off due to the results. However i see ebrake drifting as something very VERY similar to letting a FF car plow when you go in too fast. Understeer looses its controll and you loose TONS of speed. Only thing the ebrake gets you is a chance of a spin, which it seems you have found out.

Ask in the drift forum, you will get more responses with less flaming from people who know more i think.

[boznuttz]

lol, initial d brought a lot of new nico members too

[RogerHinga]

This might be better to ask in the drift forum. Try clutch kicking instead of pulling the ebrake so much

kouki chick is a clutch kicking monster.. see you at the event tomorrow.. i'm riding shotgun with ya.. just do be 2 mean on my ribs

what i like to do is okinawa style...

[kansaschity]

so what you're saying is... with an open differential, using the e-brake makes it easy to spin out. it would be better to go for a braking/dynamic drift technique? is the way i'm doing it now right? thanks for the fast replys guys.

why do you need our help, you obviously own the drift bible shut up, buy a lsd and supsension, practice, practice, practice, then if you have any problems post in the drift forum next time

or do what sleepy_steeve said, his first post

[seyath]

Moved to the Drifting forum so you would get more exposure

[BuLLeTdrift]

I didn't read much, but I think i know what you are experiencing. Wth an open diff, you need more speed to carry you thru the drift. From what you've been saying, if its true, you should move up to an LSD. You can keep on with the same method. Slight ebrake to initiate and throttle all the way thru the turn. The LSD should carry you thru the drift and unlike open diff, it wont kill all your speed. Just make sure you have enuff speed and smash the gas, than control it. For sure try clutch kicking.

but for now, try more entry speed. Thats what i had to do.

[pancho y onions]

To me 5sec of holding the E brke sounds wayy to long of a hold time. Thats just me. I usually hold for about 2-3sec.

[naed240sx]

To me 5sec of holding the E brke sounds wayy to long of a hold time. Thats just me. I usually hold for about 2-3sec.

He said 0.5 seconds. LOL even 2-3 is huge and will cause you to loose all of your speed.

[pancho y onions]

OHHHHHHHHHH. Me bad with numbers sorry. Blush Blush

[drift N S13]

just a suggestion futureswswapper,depending on new you are to drifting,practice doughnuts in a BIG parking lot,when you can control how big the doughnuts then try to actually drift,I use alot of clutch kicking and shiftlock but shiftlocking you gotta have some speed since you drop it into 2nd from 3rd usually,ebrake is a good way you could try a little feint and ebrake.dont really pull and hold the ebrake just pull keep your thumb on the buttom so it dosnt stay up though,ebrake is a good way to learn how to control the car and is a good way to adjust angle midslide,but everyone drifts different just go out and practice dont be afraid to spin out in front of people because it happens to everyone

[Mr.Sandman]

Buy Drift Bible, by the one and only drift king.

[Joe]

Buy Drift Bible, by the one and only drift king.

[Mr.Sandman]

what do you u mean, by that?

[adrianfromthecastle]

what do you u mean, by that?

its a video by BMI <-- they make good video mags, but drift bible is.. ehh its just like watching Tony Hawk's Trick Tips.. but for drifting

[Mr.Sandman]

i hear ya.

[~4N~]

An alternative to the Drift Bible should be offered for people who aren't religious.

[BuLLeTdrift]

there's some good things in drift bible. I have it...somewhere, lol. Its not like i watch it the night before i have an event, but i enjoyed watching it.

Any ways...watching other amatures at an event and possibly getting a ride in a car would be much better than watching a dvd.

[Mr.Sandman]

the way i look at it, is....... The drift bible is start. Try to understand what you need to do make the car turn sideways and keep it going. But i agree in watching in person once you understand. My saying "make a car go as fast as possible without losing traction." " Then once you understand the limits of your car, try to break them"

[916drifter]

Start going to more events and enter them if possible and have someone ride with you...its very helpful.With your open diff... just come in at more speed and e-brake. dont be afraid of speed! if anything if u start losing speed i usually clutch kick.

[TeamMadMX]

OK from what I can gather this guy is better than these people who reply to his post! Anyone who knows how to drift doesn't use the e-brake to initiate a drift. Sounds to me like he has a pretty good idea of what he is doing. I would recommend practicing pendolum drifts. They are difficult but build skills. As always practice practice practice!!! No offense to anyone who posted thats just my 2 cents

[Joe]

OK from what I can gather this guy is better than these people who reply to his post! Anyone who knows how to drift doesn't use the e-brake to initiate a drift. Sounds to me like he has a pretty good idea of what he is doing. I would recommend practicing pendolum drifts. They are difficult but build skills. As always practice practice practice!!! No offense to anyone who posted thats just my 2 cents

LOTS (nearly ALL) of professionals use the ebrake to initiate. its the only method available to set your angle before you get to the corner.

you cant clutch kick going straight.