How to reach camber bolts on BC Coilovers

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funkee
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I finally installed thrust washers and greased up the struts, which got rid some of the noise I have been experienced. I also finally installed a new set of powerstop rotors and pads. The difference isn't significant. And although the creaking from the steering is mostly gone, there's a weird click when I give it throttle from a dead stop.

I took the car to Firestone and dropped some money on the lifetime alignment. When I came back, they told me they couldn't adjust the front camber, because there was no way to get a tool in there to the bolts. They advised me to cut out the lip with a dremel and bring it back.

I have gotten alignments and camber adjustments before. But I have no idea how they did it. Did they unbolt the suspension, drop it, adjust it, reattach and measure? I can't imagine any kind of tool that can get in there.

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The problem I have now is that I'm actually running positive camber in the front. I'm at +0.4°on the front left and 0.0° on the front right. In the back I'm running -1.3° on the left and -2° on the right. I need to roll my fenders in the rear to go less negative, or I'll rip up my wheel well.

Honestly, the suspension has been so noisy and stiff, that I'm considering giving up my BC coilovers and just buying some lowering springs and throwing my stock struts back on. I really miss the soft, quiet ride. Right now, I'm so stiff (even with max damping), that my chassis is creaking at low speed on almost any road. Going up driveways, one of my rear wheels will usually come off the ground. Once I coming out of a driveway and there was a nasty hump right before the street. I barely made it over it until my front wheels dropped out from under me and I was perched on my y-pipe! Ow.


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Irvxing
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Sorry i cant help but if you decide to get rid of your coils i'll take them off your hands :yesnod

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SanoSuKe
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lol your camber is really not that bad bro. Answering your question, there are tools that can get in there, you just need to take it to a good performance shop. I've seen the tool before but I don't know what do you call it. The coils give 1.5 camber and that's their max, so you won't be able to do any crazy camber if that's what you have in mind (which I doubt).

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AlexM.
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funkee wrote:Honestly, the suspension has been so noisy and stiff, that I'm considering giving up my BC coilovers and just buying some lowering springs and throwing my stock struts back on. I really miss the soft, quiet ride.
I feel the same way. I'm getting tired of it. Since my car is pretty much stock with a subtle drop, its not worth it. I've been considering switching to Teins. I still don't see why they wouldn't fit a 2.5
funkee wrote: Did they unbolt the suspension, drop it, adjust it, reattach and measure? I can't imagine any kind of tool that can get in there.
I think they would have to drop it and use an allen key to adjust the camber plates.

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Bumpity.

Does anyone know what tool can get in there before I start cutting away at my car?

Irvxing: I will definitely keep you in mind if I decide to get rid of the coilovers.

AlexM: Teins should fit the 2.5 with no problem.

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alphapig
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I adjusted mine twice. I dropped the coilover both times to get to it.

Try bending an allen wrench in several ways using several vice grips?

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After reading some of the complaints about coil overs.... I'm starting to wonder if they're worth it. Or is it just the BC's that are having these issues? I know AlexM is running a custom setup with BC's and MDU. Should I just save up a little more and get Teins? I haven't heard any complaints about D2's yet either which is the ones I was considering. I don't like reading bad things about something I want haha.

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MetallicSlate wrote:After reading some of the complaints about coil overs.... I'm starting to wonder if they're worth it. Or is it just the BC's that are having these issues? I know AlexM is running a custom setup with BC's and MDU. Should I just save up a little more and get Teins? I haven't heard any complaints about D2's yet either which is the ones I was considering. I don't like reading bad things about something I want haha.
There's no escape from it lol. If you want to go low, then you'll have to give up ride comfort. Teins are comfortable but then they don't go as low as all the others systems. :rolleyes:

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Also,

BC, D2, Megan, KSport are exactly the same. The internals are made in Taiwan, and different companies simply slap on their own color.

Teins are not Taiwanese. I highly recommend them, even though they don't go as low, and even though I own BC.

The Altima Coupe is terrible unfriendly to lower anyway. The front subframe bracket hangs very, very low.

Oh, and I've already had to replace my lower oil pan, it developed a leak because I kept smashing it up. Ill need to take a pic of how awful it is.

09+ models also have an aluminum oil pan, whereas 08 has steel. So be careful, it is more easily cracked.

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I buy they are made in Taiwan, but k sport and d2 are true coils. So there is a small difference. I don't wanna slam it. Maybe I'll just save for tein

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alphapig wrote:Also,

BC, D2, Megan, KSport are exactly the same. The internals are made in Taiwan, and different companies simply slap on their own color.

Teins are not Taiwanese. I highly recommend them, even though they don't go as low, and even though I own BC.

The Altima Coupe is terrible unfriendly to lower anyway. The front subframe bracket hangs very, very low.

Oh, and I've already had to replace my lower oil pan, it developed a leak because I kept smashing it up. Ill need to take a pic of how awful it is.

09+ models also have an aluminum oil pan, whereas 08 has steel. So be careful, it is more easily cracked.
i wouldnt say that they are exactly the same. ksport and d2 are true coilovers, and i havent had ANY problems with my kports. i have no noise at all, ride isnt too bad and turning corners are awesome. id reccommend ksport all day everyday. no squeaking, poppin, or whatever other noises that BCs make.. imo, ksport are awesome.

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Huh.... I hadn't considered KSports. I might PM you about those. See how much you like them.

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MetallicSlate wrote:Huh.... I hadn't considered KSports. I might PM you about those. See how much you like them.
I didn't get KSport just because of their rep on some forums. But it worked good for alitma coupes so far, so you might aswell look into them.

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funkee wrote: AlexM: Teins should fit the 2.5 with no problem.
It sounds so dumb to think that they wouldn't but I'm gonna ask anyway...

Do you know of anyone that's done it? 2.5s and 3.5s have the same suspension setup so I don't know what all the rahrah is about Tein being for 3.5s only. I wouldn't mind the higher spring rate tailored for a heavier engine anyway

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The only difference is the spring rates. The suspension setup is the same, but the potential issue relates to the engine's position and weight distribution on the 2.5. We don't have any kind of chassis brace, and the default BC spring rate causes a lot of stress on the chassis. I bet that a Tein set up with a poor weight distribution will put even more stress on it. I don't know what kind of damage it can cause - perhaps none. But it will probably be noiser than the BCs.


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