how to makes the sr20det better s15

Post by **Shuay-Jye** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

ok ill give u the load down. At this moment in time i have a 240sx s13d and...o wait u dont want to know the whole story so ill stick with the basics. Im goin to sell my car and sometime in the future by a 95 240sx s14 so a sr20det s15 will fit in nicely.

well we all knows that the s15 gets about 250hp @ 6000rpms and would like to know how to get the power faster without nos?

also since supposily there are tons of preformance upgrade for the sr20det and which upgrades will be the easiest to do with the engine out compared to with it in the car?

remember to put how much hp ill get from adding it and how much it would cost to put it in urself. (dont worry this isnt goin to be a daily driver)

i promise this is the last request on this post... im dumb i guess cuz i have no clue to what a front clip is and what i so great about them.

Thanx a million, Marcus Bautista

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

jeez, alot to ask for, but dont worry i wont flame yah:D

I hope you ahve alot of dough because an s15 will cost ALOT!!! to make more power?????? exaust, downpipe, intake, front mount intercooler.............their is alot involved in putting the motor in and it does NOT drop in easly.

before you ask anymore questions like this please use search, it is most helpful in preventing repetitive posts.

EDIT: o yeah, a front clip is basicly the whole front half of a car....literaly.

Post by **Shuay-Jye** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

i did use search and i didnt find it but im still looking and also how much is a lot of dough

im just making sure im making the right choice

Post by **GodzillaFan** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

wait... you getting a s14 because a s15 motor will drop in easily? s15 motor drops in just as 'easy' for the s13....

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

First go to grammer school for about 15 years, next, the S15 engine swap is not that easy. It is a little harder to put it into an S13 than an S14 but not by much. If you dont know how to make a car faster without NOS please leave. Its called a "turbocharger" and suprisingly enough you can get larger turbos that will produce as much power as you want.

Post by **IczMan** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

I was going to order S15 engine but decided to go w/S14 engine. because S15 engines are expensive. And parts are really hard to find. You'll need alot of S15 parts to make it work on S14.

Post by **bp2ooo** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

By the 95 s14 you talk about. Then put a s13 motor, redtop or blacktop. Use the extra money to get a t3/t4 or an s15 ball bearing turbo. A front mount, s15 injectos, and a boost controller. Your car will be pretty damn quick after that. Just to let you know price wise and s13 will cost you around 2000. A s15 motor will cost you are 5000. And from what ive heard the wiring is a pain dropping and s15 sr20det into an s14. If you had it installed by daunt, it would cost you 1300 to install and s15 motor vs an s13 motor. You have to add a couple things like fuel pump, down, pipe, intake. So youd be at about 3500 installed for an s13 motor and 7000 for an s15 motor. 3500 dollars more for 45 hp? s15 t28 turbo will run you a grand for a brand new one, or around 500 for a used one. S15 injectors will be 200-300, front mount will be 800 or so. Boost controller anywhere from 30 bucks for a cheapy manual up to 600 or so for greddy profec e-01. You would be able to boost about 18 psi with that setup which would put you around 300 hp im guessing. That would be pretty damn quick, and you still have money to spend.

Post by **Dori Dori** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

Screw the S15 engine. Buy a Toda crate engine. That's where it's at.

Post by **Shuay-Jye** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

thanx for the info i think i was unclear to some of u guys. i meant to say how to get the power sooner instead of what i said of faster. Another words how to get the power at 3000 rpms instead of 6000 rpms.

Dori Dori i dont know what a toda crate is

S15 Black Top SR20DET complete $5500 plus shipping. Includes all electronics and ignition parts, uncut harness, transmission, driveshaft, differential, warranty and tech support.

S13 Red Top SR20DET complete $2500 plus shipping. Includes all electronics and ignition parts, uncut harness, transmission, warranty and tech support.

ok right there u save $3000 getting the s13 but u get more with the s15 and when i said just drops in i mean that u dont really need to modify anything.

i understand what ur saying and i was planning on have the engine out of the car (im not going to put it in) so i can install performance upgrades and then take it to daunt and have him install it. Most the work ill do myself but the swap.

Post by **christopher** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

Toda makes a crate engine????

Shuay, good luck.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

"ok right there u save $3000 getting the s13 but u get more with the s15 and when i said just drops in i mean that u dont really need to modify anything."

WOWZORS WES GOTS US AH SMARTSS ONES HERE MAH!...OK Shuay, there are a million billion trillion gajillion posts on here regarding everything you're asking. you obviously are not searching that well or you would have had your answers in all the time you used to post this worthless flameball.

Post by **Shuay-Jye** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

well then teach me how to use search since im dumb and cant use it by myself. sorry if im only a dumb teen wastin my time at school

Post by **hokiruu** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

I know a guy with an s14 who swapped in an s15. It was a big pain in the as* to do and cost tons of money and took forever. I took a ride in it and yes, it was pretty damn quick. But his tach, spedometer, and VTC all didn't work at all, among other little annoying problems. To make all that stuff work I guess you need to have the ECU retuned by Jim Wolf or something, at least for the VTC. The spedometer uses a completely different type of signal, so it is incompatible with the s14, at least that's what he told me. It might not be the same for everyone, but that's all what he told me and I saw. It is probably pushing at least 325hp with the stock t28 turbo. Guess what though? He still wants to upgrade the turbo. In his case, he probably would have been better off building up from an s13! So it sounds like you first need to figure out what you want, and what you can afford. Sure, the s15 swap has alot of "cool factor" appeal, but it might not be worth it. If you ask me, I'd say just buy an s13 and upgrade the turbo, even if it is only to the s15 t28 bb turbo ($8-900). The beauty of the s13 is that you can rebuild the turbo to bigger specs for relatively cheap, and you can't do that on the later models because they are ball bearing center section turbos. Or if you have the cash, get a bigger turbo, but you need some other stuff to go with that for fuel and a few other engine parts. BTW the seemingly desireable 6 speed transmission from the s15 is supposedly not as strong as the older 5 speeds, as Japanese s15 drivers seem to be swapping to this transmission.

Post by **Shuay-Jye** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

i believe that because they drift and want stronger gears.

well the main reason i dont want a larger turbo is that i hate the turbo lag. I want to reduce the turbo lag with out loosing power and i heard that u can do that by upgrading the exhuast system including the cat backs.

how else can u reduce the lag?

And the spedometer you are suppose to change it with the original one from the 240. I think Heavy Throttle says how to fix that problem.

i mainly want power without the lag (i dont mean superchargers)so turbos are not the answer for me

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

you want power without lag, and turbos arent for you? Then dont buy an SR. Dont buy an RB. Dont buy anything import. Go get yourself a 5 liter mustang.

Post by **Dori Dori** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

:withstup

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

Shuay-Jye wrote:i believe that because they drift and want stronger gears.

well the main reason i dont want a larger turbo is that i hate the turbo lag. I want to reduce the turbo lag with out loosing power and i heard that u can do that by upgrading the exhuast system including the cat backs.

how else can u reduce the lag?

And the spedometer you are suppose to change it with the original one from the 240. I think Heavy Throttle says how to fix that problem.

i mainly want power without the lag (i dont mean superchargers)so turbos are not the answer for me

Well then we have just the car for you, a HONDA. Do you even know what turbo lag is or did you just "hear" that its bad. Genius there are some companies (God forbid) that have realized that turbo lag is undesireable and have created special hybrid turbos that spool up faster while creating fulfulling amounts of power but those wouldnt interest you. You need an NA packin NOS.

Post by **cnichols** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

Go easy on him....I think he takes the short bus to school.

Post by **Shuay-Jye** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

thanx for ur help.

ill rephrase my question to how to get more low end power. Remember no NOS. And i dont want to hear about how i should get a mustang... im not here just buy power. i want to make a hella fast nissan and nos will be my last upgrade.

and i dont know why u said to get a honda

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

Because my girlfriends honda civic EX has more power below 3000 RPMS than my SR20DET S13. But do you know what, that is never an issue because when you drag race the car the rpms are never that low. There is a reason why people call it launching (reving to 4000ish rpms before you drop the clutch). Take it from us, you dont need uber low end power because you will NEVER use it unless you shift at 3500RPM's when you drag your car.

Post by **Shuay-Jye** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

hey thats cool thats really cool. thanks a million

isnt launching hard on ur car (it sounds like it would be)

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:38 pm

Well of course launching is hard on all the driveline componants but its not like you drop the clutch at 5000 every stoplight. If you drag "occasionally" then you shouldnt have to worry about anything breaking unless your pushing more power than your stock parts can handle.

Launching is used in drag racing only primarily. Anytime you run your engine hard it is bad to a certain extent. Running at 7000RPM's is like 700 times worse than 1000RPM's(*well alot worse, you get the picture).

how to makes the sr20det better s15

how to makes the sr20det better s15

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