How to improve MPG ? myth ?

[BlackBirdVQ]

http://www.savefuel.ca/

Few guys on the Maxima.org forums are going to give this a try to see if it does indeed work. It comes with a 30 day guarantee in case you do not see the results.... Dennis what are your thoughts on this ? I am strictly a wrench head and don't know much bout chemistry etc. Kinda currious if I could get my Q to see over 25MPG with this device if it does indeed work....

[Jesda]

Smells like bull****.

[240TweakerNewbee]

I wonder what the chance is that it will malfunction and start dumping that "ordinary tap water" into your motor.

[maxnix]

Their mechanics will be glad for the work!

Now if it produced LOX, I'd buy it!

[Q45tech]

And the reason Nissan didn't install the device to SAVE the $1700 [older Q paid $2100-$3,000] it has to pay US GOVERNMENT for every 4.5 liter engine installed in their vehicles IS?

Engineers are beat to death to save $100 do you think accountants would ignore $1700.

And they build hybrids to save 15% on total fuel consumption for what purpose?

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/info.shtml#guzzler

[DrewQ45]

If you wanna try it, try it on an old beater that you don't care about, not that beautiful machine you worked so hard on.

...Drew...

[mcrews]

And the reason Nissan didn't install the device to SAVE the $1700 [older Q paid $2100-$3,000] it has to pay US GOVERNMENT for every 4.5 liter engine installed in their vehicles IS?

Engineers are beat to death to save $100 do you think accountants would ignore $1700.

And they build hybrids to save 15% on total fuel consumption for what purpose?

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/info.shtml#guzzler

thank you Q45tech for stating what to me also seems the obvious!!!!! I hear this allll the time....oh they are holding back a 100mpg carboratator....forgeting that we've had fuel injection for 20 yrs!!!!!If GM could increase mpg on all their cars by 10-15% you bet they would.. ..hell they are about to go bankrupt!!!!!

to me the simple answer to all this gas thing is to remember we went to war over oil......hummmm quess that's a myth too.mark

[mcrews]

thank you Q45tech for stating what to me also seems the obvious!!!!! I hear this allll the time....oh they are holding back a 100mpg carboratator....forgeting that we've had fuel injection for 20 yrs!!!!!If GM could increase mpg on all their cars by 10-15% you bet they would.. ..hell they are about to go bankrupt!!!!!

to me the simple answer to all this gas thing is to remember we went to war over oil......hummmm quess that's a myth too.mark

so the non-believer in me went to google and typed in Scott Mitchell. lotsa hits a lot of famous people with that name.....there was another website about his product......it was a clone of the first web site!!!!! so since 1991 this guy only pops up two times!!!!!!!

[maxnix]

so the non-believer in me went to google and typed in Scott Mitchell. lotsa hits a lot of famous people with that name.....there was another website about his product......it was a clone of the first web site!!!!! so since 1991 this guy only pops up two times!!!!!!!

Hey, he's been busy innovating, and avoiding the FTC!

[Q45denver]

Looks like the water injection system that J C Whitney used to sell but 10 times as expensive and with a LYE additive. Isn't lye corrosive to aluminum?

[irax]

so water enjections is the answer to fuel economy issues? I don't really think it will work.

[DuDro]

Check out the history of his site as "archived" by archive.org...

http://web.archive.org/web/*/h...el.ca/

[Q45tech]

The vehicle manufacturers don't usually cheat because their dyno road tests are randomly checked by EPA and besides a really BIG FINE [like another $1000 per car sold] they can be made to test every car as punishment.

Sometimes 0.01 mpg counts and heaven and earth is moved to find it to round up to the next lower tax bracket.

The Government already lets the cheat enough by not specing the test fuel as readily available generic fungible gasoline. This alone boost MPG from the tests by at least 1 MPG maybe 2 if you tweek the programming.

Remember all MPG test are done in the lab with optimum air flow and air temperature. Also the alignment and tire pressure doesn't have to be as low as on the placard. Plus the weight for the driver is 150 pounds and nothing else and the tank doesn't have to be full.....just enough to do the test.

Can you imagine what the real world MPG is with a full load of fuel, passengers and the typical way old cars are maintained..........Sure you can, you see it every day at the pumps.

[ScottJackson]

there is some credibility to water injection. It's a six stroke engine where after the regular exhaust stroke, water is injected into the hot chamber and the steam expansion creates another power stroke before repeating the cycle. It's pretty new and I'm somewhat skeptical of the real world results it'll bring. Just havta wait and see.

[pito11213]

So how do folks feel about E-85. How about the FLEX design that is available in Brazil.

[Jesda]

I favor E85 as an option for middle Americans, but disfavor legal mandates that put ethanol in standard gasoline.