br2819 wrote:if you know how to launch a honda you can take off in vtec. when i was o the prelude boards they used to talk about launching at like 5000 rpms so you have more torque because they do lack low end torque but 9000 rpms is amazing. my friend had a worled civic that could rev that high and it started pulling at around 4000 and kept going to the red line at 9000 and it is pretty sweet.