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vector601
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I was wondering....There are tons of people out there putting together there own turbo kits. I know as well as those that are putting together their kit that doing it yourself and not buying a kit is more bang for the buck with name brand performance parts.

The hardest part of a kit is the downpipe and intercooler piping. So I was wondering if I were to produce aluminum and steel (both at different prices) S13 and s14 FMIC piping w/BOV flange. How much will you pay for it? And how much will you pay for a downpipe with O2 sensor connection.


rco8786
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probably about as much as piping for an sr or ca or whatever. in all honesty though..most of us that have the knowledge to build and put together our own turbo kit also have the knowledge/tools to do our own piping. Although I could be completely wrong and there may be a huge market for it. I guess we'll find out.

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what prices where you thinking? and you want separate prices for the downpipe and IC piping?

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LongIsland240
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vector601 wrote:The hardest part of a kit is the downpipe and intercooler piping. So I was wondering if I were to produce aluminum and steel (both at different prices) S13 and s14 FMIC piping w/BOV flange. How much will you pay for it? And how much will you pay for a downpipe with O2 sensor connection.
Not to burst your bubble...but , that would be incredibly hard to do becasue i'm sure that if you ask around, a lot of us used different turbos, intercoolers, and turbo manifolds/mounting locations. Making piping up ahead of time wouldn't work well unless everyone did it the same.

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LongIsland240 wrote:Not to burst your bubble...but , that would be incredibly hard to do becasue i'm sure that if you ask around, a lot of us used different turbos, intercoolers, and turbo manifolds/mounting locations. Making piping up ahead of time wouldn't work well unless everyone did it the same.


yep i agree, that is physically impossible to make pipes that will work for everybody. every do-it-yourself kit is different and requires different piping.

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ditto!

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Supposing you figured out a way to make it at least semi-customizeable, the most I'd ever pay for such would be about 200 for the piping alone, not including silicone couplings, clamps etc.

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rco8786 wrote:most of us that have the knowledge to build and put together our own turbo kit also have the knowledge/tools to do our own piping.
I have neither the knowledge nor the tools, so I hope to find someone to weld up custom pipes for me when the time comes.Ive also been thinking about renting a welder and playing around with some scraps til I get the hang of it

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I have the knowledge, but no specialized tools (welder, etc) and no space as I live in an apartment complex...I would have to take my piping needs to a shop. What you should do is have a manifold, turbo (most likely T3/T4), downpipe combo, with optional FMIC piping...although every intercoolers endtanks are setup differently, so you would have to include an intercooler. Make it cheap and leave the rest of the kit up to the customer (management, etc).

This is the only way I see of this happening.

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oh i thought he meant like a whole intercooler kit. obviously he couldn't really do downpipes. i figured he meant a piping kit w/ an intercooler like every other motor has. but then the hot side would still have to be custom. blah i dunno.

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I'd pay 150 for IC piping and 100 for a downpipe, more than that and I'm going to do it myself (I guess thats how much I think my labor is worth on those pieces).But... on my car there will be a lot more fabrication and stuff than on a regular single turbo car.

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Yes, I concur that it'd be very hard to feasibly develop i/c or dp piping because of the different locations of everything on everyone kits.

Perhaps if someone sent you their EXACT SPECS/ANGLES/dimensions for what they needed then it'd be worthwhile.

I paid $50 for my new downpipe(s), T3 turbo outlet flange and all the welding--(NOTE, the welding was entirely for free :)--I just paid for materials).

But $100 for a dp sounds good.

When i go to plumb my intercooler, I'm just gonna buy mandrel bent aluminum tubes cut them in the exact position I need them in, then have them welded up (which is exactly what i did with my exhaust)....

BTW--Anyone know where to get mandrel bent ALUMINUM piping for a good price?

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Ive heard Jcwhitney has them dont know about price. UI was thinking, what about using steel piping, much easier to weld and get ahold of also cheaper. Then paint it and itll look nice.

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vadem wrote:Ive heard Jcwhitney has them dont know about price. UI was thinking, what about using steel piping, much easier to weld and get ahold of also cheaper. Then paint it and itll look nice.

Vadem


JCWhitney sells a lot of aluminized steel piping; I haven't been able to find aluminum. Steel is fine, but aluminum is a LOT lighter--and dissipates heat faster as well, i believe.


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