How Much POWER Can I Make!!!?

[pacotaco345]

I have a DOHC KA24DE with 180,000 miles and I want to rebuild it to be a strong naturally aspirated motor that is still reliable, (215-240 HP would be nice). I live in California so there's a ton of smog regulations and I would like to know what the most radical smog legal, (I know its stupid) cams and fuel injection setup that I could run to make this a strong motor. I know the car came with 155 HP stock and its gonna be tough to push up to 75 extra out of it without a turbo but I just wanted to see what ideas are out there, I'm also on an under 1,000 dollar budget since i know that I can buy a SR20DET for a couple hundred more. Any ideas would be great, Thanks.

[Roach]

ummmmm.... I suggest moving.

[Doya]

I have a DOHC KA24DE with 180,000 miles and I want to rebuild it to be a strong naturally aspirated motor that is still reliable, (215-240 HP would be nice). I live in California so there's a ton of smog regulations and I would like to know what the most radical smog legal, (I know its stupid) cams and fuel injection setup that I could run to make this a strong motor. I know the car came with 155 HP stock and its gonna be tough to push up to 75 extra out of it without a turbo but I just wanted to see what ideas are out there, I'm also on an under 1,000 dollar budget since i know that I can buy a SR20DET for a couple hundred more. Any ideas would be great, Thanks.

Get a 75 shot of

[pacotaco345]

I just got more options, my dad gave me the go ahead to put a test pipe on it and basically go one step past smog legal , so im probly gonna put a 2.5 or 3 inch exhaust with headers and an intake and get some cams, see what that does. Any suggestions on cheap parts would be great.

[Shabbernigdo]

I just got more options, my dad gave me the go ahead to put a test pipe on it and basically go one step past smog legal , so im probly gonna put a 2.5 or 3 inch exhaust with headers and an intake and get some cams, see what that does. Any suggestions on cheap parts would be great.

A test pipe on an NA KA isint gonna get u any power if any thing your gonna lose some low end. The ka need some back pressure to operate properly. Also to get over 200 Hp NA its gonna take a substancial ammount of work and money.

[seang]

I think you can get 165hp at the wheels with the approach you are talking about. Just an educated guess. Look at Ajax, he spent big bucks on the stroker kit, xcessive intake manifold, etc... and he's got 177whp, (ka26de). He's got more na plans, and I think he could squeeze some more na power out of it.

[Doya]

Is there a reason why you are so fixed on being na? IMO you should just boost it and get an easy 225-250hp EDIT: I just reread and I guess you want to stay NA for smog reasons. If you want to know a couple of ways to pass smog with a turbo, I can tell you

[pacotaco345]

Im only 16 and my dad has a thing against turbos, he thinks that theyre just a big problem and heat pump. Id personally like to get one and im trying to convince him. But if i get a turbo ill probly get an ebay kit because im on a budget and run that. Im gonna rebuild my motor anyways, whatever way i decide to go. Those tips would be great though, and if you have any arguments that i could use too that would be awesome.

[Doya]

Im only 16 and my dad has a thing against turbos, he thinks that theyre just a big problem and heat pump. Id personally like to get one and im trying to convince him. But if i get a turbo ill probly get an ebay kit because im on a budget and run that. Im gonna rebuild my motor anyways, whatever way i decide to go. Those tips would be great though, and if you have any arguments that i could use too that would be awesome.

I'm 16 too and I just got done with my second turbo build,(first one was on a honda, don't ask). I have a top mount setup with a T3/T4 hybrid ebay turbo,(everything I got off of ebay except for the DP).

As for passing smog, there are a couple ways. The most effective one that has worked for everytime is: Run your car until you have below a 1/4 tank of gas, buy 2 gallons of denatured alcohol( can be purchased at home depot, lowes etc), add that to your gas tank and proccede to emmision testing. If you have to turn your car off it will have a hard time starting. It will start, but it will just take a little longer. Alcohol doesn't burn any hydrocarbons so it fools the sniffer everytime . If you have any other questions, just lmk EDIT: Tell your dad to stop thinking so old school. There are nothing wrongs with turbos. And how do you know that you have to rebuild your motor. I boosted mine and I have 170,000. Just do a compresion test and if the numbers are good, you can boost it

[pacotaco345]

On a scale of 1-10 how hard is it to install a turbo, and how much trouble do you have to go through to get it tuned. Also, did you have to put a bigger radiator or any other speed parts on it w/the turbo?Also, what compression numbers are suitable for a turbo?
Modified by pacotaco345 at 6:55 PM 9/6/2009

[Doya]

It all depends. If you have people to help you, it will be a hell of alot easier. I've had to do all of the work by myself, so about a *8*. You don't have to get a bigger radiator or any other parts like that. You could upgrade to a alluminum rad. if you wanted to, but it's not nessecary. I don't have mine tuned, I'm just using a 8:1 FMU( Fuel Managemnet Unit) and what that does is for every pound of boost, it adds 8 more psi of fuel(or whatever one you decide to get, there are 6:1, 8:1, 10:1, and 12:1, but an 8:1 is the best one to use so you don't run too lean). You are most defenitly going to want to get a wideband you can monitor your a/f ratio at all times. What really helped me alot with turboing my 240 was the ka24de-t dvd that Josh sells. His website is 240SXTECHDVDS.ORG. You should really order that if you are thinking about going turbo. It a great dvd and it shows you everything you need to know and do to turbo your car. My whole entire setup cost me under $750. Thats all I can think of right now because I am really tired and have been up since 4am. If you have any other quesions, I can answer them tomorrow. One more thing, read through the ka-t forum on here! Read ALL of the stickes there too. That will tell you everything you need to know. -Peace

EDIT: Just read about the compression numbers. You don't have to have any special compression numbers to turbo it. As long as all 4 cylinders read above 155, and they are all within 10 of each other, your good to go

[liquid_cool]

One thing your all forgetting.......He in the GREEN state of California...unless you moove to a more ..free state..your screwed..couse if CA. finds you with mods to your car...they will crush it!..any mod..must have the carb ex order sticker to get away with it..allso..you have to carrie with you a recipt for everything you have bought for that car..or they can and will impound it till YOU prove you bought it all....california is one wierd place man...ill never go back to that rat hole of a state...id rather go to mass-of-two-s***s to live ..

[rm125RideR]

Im 16 too. And i live in CA. its not worth the stress driving knowing you have something to hide. make it legal or stealthy.btm mount turbo. paint piping black. (make it ugly)But i plan on cams, intake, exhaust, headers. making it breath better...

Get pulled over with the wrong stuff HA! have fun

[gingerbredman]

I say screw those carbon sniffers and go ka-t. To answer your question OP, on a low-boost ka-t setup you'll be in the neighborhood of 220whp with little lag, of course. It won't cost too much if you know the right people and buy decent stuff the first time around.

All you'll need for the tuning end of things is, the fmu as stated before, and simply retarding your timing a few degrees. I definitely agree with the wideband, I see "600whp" honda's and various other turbo cars that run a high-risk setup and don't have a wideband or any other relevant device.

P.S. I don't see how you people put up with that S#% in Cali with that "mod" deal. I tell ya waht, if anyF'n body lays a hand on my property they better ... well just know that I work too damn hard for what little I have, I'll be damned if I'm not "allowed" to enjoy my own property.. private property at that. And this proclaimed "drift tax". Govt's building itself on its own bridge and it's bound to fall when they get too big, but whatta I know? Sry for rambling

[upsdude]

I too live in cali-just plain sucks to live here if you want to mod your car at all...and driving an import? just makes it worse.

[pacotaco345]

Yeah, next year i'll be in college and I'm lookin at TCU. I figured I can at least get four years of fun out of my car and if obama turns America communist they'll be the first to succeed... so yeah.

[1991ls13]

i think i made 350whp on hope and dreams lolbut really, you can, plain and simple, for a 1k and under buget, a cam, headers intake exhaust, tune and a bunch of small good stuff your already at 1k or over and only making probably 200hp but then only like 160whp so dont!or like everyone said, move or go sr.....

or find a friend with a smog shop