how much oil is enough for the KA? i saw 4qts. in the FSM

[babowc]

so.. i went about changing my dirty oil for the first time since i bought my 240 with the KAde..

i used some generic oil filter i found at Advanced Auto Parts.yes i know i sho uldnt have, but it was either that or fram or k&n, and i didnt have enough $ for k&n.

so.. i bought one gallon and one qt. of Castrol GTX 10w30.filled up the filter, it took almost a whole qt.so.. i screw in the filter with all my hand power, then scrwe it some more with the oilfilter screwer thing.

so i go about dumping whatever was left of the qt. that i filled the filter with in the engine.. then the whole gallon (around 3.87qts iirc)

then i drive around, drives great.

did i put too much oil? i checked before i started her up, and it was a bit above the H part on the stick ( L XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX H ----------)

what are the consequences? i heard it can blow a seal or something..

thanks for all your help. i hope my question was understandable

[naed240sx]

Just put the pan back underneath the car, and twist the bolt untill oil starts coming out. Just make sure it doesnt fall out and dump all the oil. Tigten it down, and check oil level again. Repeat.

[EstoMax]

your gonna have a fun time taking that oil filter off aftewards, you shouldnt tighten it more then hand tight

[babowc]

its not too hard to take it off, with some man power. ya wuss :P

haha, just messing with you.but what are the consequences if i dont drain the oil and just drive at it's already excessive state..?

[PalmerWMD]

your gonna have a fun time taking that oil filter off aftewards, you shouldnt tighten it more then hand tight

Werd

[PalmerWMD]

its not too hard to take it off, with some man power. ya wuss :P

haha, just messing with you.but what are the consequences if i dont drain the oil and just drive at it's already excessive state..?

Depends on <how> excessive.

If oil is high enough that the crank hits it while driving you may get foaming.Foaming is almost as bad as low oil pressure as this introdcues air into teh librication and air doesnt lube well.

A little bit over (maybe less then a third of a quart) is no prob but a lot over is.

Fred..

[babowc]

hmm.. since i used one 1 gallon bottle and 1 qt bottle..i guess it sums up to around 4.87 (iirc)

most of the 1qt bottle went to the filter though..i dont know how it could affect :/

[lrb_2000]

i usually just put the filter on.. put about 3 1/2 quarts... start the car for a second to get the filter full.. then check the level.. if it needs more, I put more..

[Kenrik]

i usually just put the filter on.. put about 3 1/2 quarts... start the car for a second to get the filter full.. then check the level.. if it needs more, I put more..

Same here... Also never tighten it more then hand tight... if you ever strip those threads your screewed... and it makes it to hard to get off!

[babowc]

hmm.. so you dont really need to fill up the filter before you screw it in?

i was pouring oil in the filter, it was sucking it up like crazy.. considering it is made of paper (or whatever)

i hope id idnt fill up too much

[BadMojo]

Same here... Also never tighten it more then hand tight... if you ever strip those threads your screewed... and it makes it to hard to get off!

The damn thing is hard to get off when it's hand tight. On a slightly related note, it's kind of cool that those K&N filter have the nut on the end so you can just take it off with a regular wrench.

[EstoMax]

The damn thing is hard to get off when it's hand tight. On a slightly related note, it's kind of cool that those K&N filter have the nut on the end so you can just take it off with a regular wrench.

yea even when i handtightened my k&n filter i had to use the wrench end to get em off.. so its defiantely very easy to overtighten those things

[lrb_2000]

just make sure you lube up the ring around the filter with oil.. but no, how do you even put a filter on that's full? lol

[DjPantsSpecR]

yeah, sideways?

either way, you're are just short of one quart too many, and at the least i think you will definately expose Nissan's horrible main oil seal problems. You'll probably blow out the front main crank seal and possibly even the rear main seal

its bound to happen to every KA and if you can do it yourself both gaskets will cost about 29 bucks.

front main seal can be done with the motor in the car, the rear can not

[tonynalli]

when you get the filter you pour oil into it till it reaches the top, then you stop after about 30 seconds it will absorb in the filter. and thats all you need. and you will never put a filter on facing down, it contradicts the laws of gravity.

[babowc]

hmm.. i emptied about 3/4th of a quart in the filter. it didnt spill any.i didnt lube the gasket around the filter.. excuse my newbie-ness hmm.. my car's been leaking a bit now, but nothing major. after i drive it hard, there might be a oil spot here and there.. cant determine if its from the front/back main seals..

i guess ill go tomorrow and drain some oil, just in case.

sideways.. thats how the KA filters are put in.. mine did just fine, i dunno about you guys.

[1991S13]

I was taught to hand tighten, then give it a quarter turn with the filter wrench. I always give it the quarter turn because the thought of blowing the filter off scares the crap outta me, even though hand tight is usually more than enough.

I didn't know people filled their filters before putting them on their car. At work I fill the huge diesel oil and fuel filters before putting them on though.

Don't know how many of you read Car Craft, but just a few months ago they dyno'd an engine with different oil levels to see how it would effect power. I think they made the most from putting in just a little less than recommended.

[MS180SX]

coming from a wal-mart TLE technican, , the only cars that you have to prime, or fill the oil filter on are turbocharged cars. I was told that it can mess up the turbo if there is no oil in the filter.

Mine always took 3.6 qts total. and yeah they taught us hand tight and 1/4 turn. But they also said theres a torque on the drain plug.. hmm.... oh well.

[Dookie]

At least you didnt do what this guy I know of did. He filled his oil all the way up to the valve cover, haha

[naed240sx]

At least you didnt do what this guy I know of did. He filled his oil all the way up to the valve cover, haha

wow, just wow.

[MS180SX]

At least you didnt do what this guy I know of did. He filled his oil all the way up to the valve cover, haha

thats great.. Back at Vo-tech, vehicle maintance class in high school, this one guy i knew filled the entire windshield washer fluid tank up with oil while doing an oil change. " I DIDN"T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO PUT IT" ha ha ..

[1991S13]

I have the best vo-tech stories, lol.

One time we had a customer car that was brought in because it was making a funny noise on the side of the engine. The harmonic balancer was cracked, so we put a new one on and fixed it. Well in the process we opened the console (because high school kids are nosey) and found herpes cream. There were 2 other guys in my group, and one had to tell the customer what the problem was, etc. We got the kid that screwed around the whole time to tell him, and told him we had to fix the herponic balancer. So he told the customer that...look on his face was priceless.