how many miles have you put on YOUR RB

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
johnzm
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hearing a bunch of reliability issues, read about the"crank collar" (i am clueless LOL)

i am coming from a honda background where ive literally beat the **** out of my motors (constant 9500+rpm redlines and zips to 10-12,000rpm with no ill effects)

i just yesterday purchaed an RB20DET clip with 94,000 kilometers on it, and i expect to get the same reliability as any other car wtih that type of mileage on it, but keep getting told different. horror storys of them blwoing up after 10k miles, turbos going to crap a month after install, and timing belt woes, from breaking studs and siezing pulleys..

i hope some of u got more than 45k miles on ur motorsthanks!


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johnzm wrote:hearing a bunch of reliability issues, read about the"crank collar" (i am clueless LOL)
Not trying to be a d!ck, maybe you should do more reaserach then ask a few more specific questions. Nissans are just as reliable as Toyotas, Hondas, or Fords. It depends on the maintainence. My SR20DET several years (~3 to be exact) ago was driven all over the US and had 100,000 miles on it(Slight exaggeration), as well as having 330RWHP. Treat your RB well and She will take care of you.You beat her up and don't give her what she needs she will be a ***** to you.

johnzm
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thanks for the input, i am specifically questioning the RB, i know i am in a "technical" forum which means ill see alot of problem posts, but also have heared alot of bad about them locally.

i know i havent read up enuogh, i am still workin on it;)

thanks for the input guys

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krayton
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ive put about 25,000 miles on my rb25. beats me what it had.

thats DD and track events for about the 2 years ive been driving it

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Carl H
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i know ive put over 20k on my motor, suprizing its still in one piece with the mods on it as well as the age.ask any of the ny/nj guys i drove my car from nc to ny this past summer and down to atlanta for nopi.

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johnzm wrote:i just yesterday purchaed an RB20DET clip with 94,000 kilometers on it, and i expect to get the same reliability as any other car wtih that type of mileage on it, but keep getting told different. horror storys of them blwoing up after 10k miles, turbos going to crap a month after install, and timing belt woes, from breaking studs and siezing pulleys..
There are a lot of horror stories because a lot of people do horrible jobs swapping the RB engines in.

Honestly... It's a 10 - 15 year old engine, many have been sitting for quite a while. Why would something think they could just drop it in and expect it to run perfectly for ever? The amazing thing is that many do run perfectly despite not being cared for.

Make sure you put on a new timing belt, water pump, etc.. Check the tensioner and idler or replace them regardless. Have the coolant system flushed properly. Replace the thermostat just because.

Now... a couple issues that RB's are truly known for.. Exhaust manifold bolts do tend to break. Not a bad idea to put a new set on there to avoid this problem. Also.. the RB20 turbo is nothing to write home about. It's small, weak, and they are old.. Don't expect to get awesome performance from it. Plan on upgrading at some point before you expect to blow away your competition at the local street races.

Anyhow... congrats on your purchase. You will love it!


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i know this is the most horrble thing LOL i dont expect to blow anything away with the swap,(thats what my CRX is for!) i bought it for daily driving :P

after looking at my options (and after 2 months my inability to find a NICE COMPLETE KA swap for a 89) i decided the RB20 would be a better alternative to the similarly priced CA, and overpriced SR;)

so i jumped on the clip after checking the compression (which was@150 all the way across) and hearing it run.

a quick question- do these motors have the oil pan issue that the SR's have?


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johnz wrote:
a quick question- do these motors have the oil pan issue that the SR's have?
Well first of RB oil pans are HUGE.Secondly SR's dont have a oil pan problem. The fact is motors that have been sitting on the oil pan for extended periods of time, and not handled with care dragged around on the floor etc, been jacked up from the oil pan. Overtime the oil pans dent. Easy FIX though...Drop the oil pan. bang it out from the inside, with a hammer or something, or get a new oil pan. Slap it back on there with a good gasket.

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Carl H
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also gotta remember that most retards who buy a sr crank that ***** up right out of the box and rev it to 7k when its cold, then they complain about it spinning bearings and not building oil pressure; wonder why.

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Ive put about 20K on my motor, when venus sent it to me it has 125Kilometers on it i was kind of dissapointed but it was very clean, anyways nothing big to worry about if my motor craps out im gonna buy just the motor for like 700 i heard and build up the blown one

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johnzm wrote:hearing a bunch of reliability issues, read about the"crank collar" (i am clueless LOL)
that's your problem, hearing too much false information. keep up with your routine maintenance and it'll last you for a very long time. what's the point of reving 9k rpm when the power curve peaks around 7500? different company design their motors differently short stroke and rev-happy, vs long stroke--torquey low rpm revs.

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johnzm wrote:hearing a bunch of reliability issues, read about the"crank collar" (i am clueless LOL)

i am coming from a honda background where ive literally beat the **** out of my motors (constant 9500+rpm redlines and zips to 10-12,000rpm with no ill effects)

i just yesterday purchaed an RB20DET clip with 94,000 kilometers on it, and i expect to get the same reliability as any other car wtih that type of mileage on it, but keep getting told different. horror storys of them blwoing up after 10k miles, turbos going to crap a month after install, and timing belt woes, from breaking studs and siezing pulleys..

i hope some of u got more than 45k miles on ur motorsthanks!
a little late on the questions, oh the worst part about the rb is that its sooooooo heavy, thats what the sr "drift" monkey told me.

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I had my first RB for over 4 years before it blew, and the only reason it blew was something got into the intake when I was working on it. I now have another RB in it and has been running strong.

Johnnzm do hang out at the Local any???

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I've only put like 5k on my RB25 since i got it... had 12k miles when i got it, so like 17k now... probally good for another 100k+ i hope... haha. Engine came from a 2001 i believe.

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ya the rb is kinda heavy. but check this. i have an s14 that was an auto, whenever i left my driveway, the dip in it made me catch the front lip every time. after changing to the rb with manual transmission, the car actually weighs less up front and i no longer scrape my front lip on the dip in my driveway. so if it truly weighs more, the weight is further back than it is toward the front end.

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unstable240 wrote:I had my first RB for over 4 years before it blew, and the only reason it blew was something got into the intake when I was working on it. I now have another RB in it and has been running strong.

Johnnzm do hang out at the Local any???
i try not to. i am not a big fan of organized street racing much anymore. i learned if u actually make power, u will never win, b/c u will be spinning too much. and its too much hassle to mount slicks up when u might have to run from cops anyways i worked on my clip a little last night, found outtheres some residue in the turbo compressor housing, im hoping it isint DEAD, but ill know soon... what kinda turbo's are bolton for this manifold? is it a T3 flange?

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What kind of valvetrain were you hitting 11 - 12,000 rpm's with on Hondas? And what motor/s?

Just curious.

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johnzm wrote:
anyways i worked on my clip a little last night, found outtheres some residue in the turbo compressor housing, im hoping it isint DEAD, but ill know soon... what kinda turbo's are bolton for this manifold? is it a T3 flange?
Yup...The RB exhaust manifold uses a T3 flange.....

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^LOL^

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Nameless EJ6 wrote:What kind of valvetrain were you hitting 11 - 12,000 rpm's with on Hondas? And what motor/s?

Just curious.
well, i was revving my current motor out to 10k (1.8 liter vtec), the rev limiter wasnt kicking correctly, after i saw a data log to 9900rpm, i fixed it back to 9300, where it should be;)

i had a 1.6 liter VTEC, and was constantly revving it to 10,000rpm but a couple of free revs went over that...

all that is in these motors is a semi built head, and a oem bottom end. valvetrain rocket motorsports gen1's with Ti retainers.

thanks for the info guys. i been working on it nonstop to get it out of this clip.

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johnzm wrote:
i try not to. i am not a big fan of organized street racing much anymore. i learned if u actually make power, u will never win, b/c u will be spinning too much. and its too much hassle to mount slicks up when u might have to run from cops anyways i worked on my clip a little last night, found outtheres some residue in the turbo compressor housing, im hoping it isint DEAD, but ill know soon... what kinda turbo's are bolton for this manifold? is it a T3 flange?
The Local is a bar in down town not a racing place. I thought maybe you were someone that went there often...

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unstable240 wrote:
The Local is a bar in down town not a racing place. I thought maybe you were someone that went there often...
sorry man, i am in the gwinnett area, i thought u were referring to the barrett "scene" hah.

anyways personally, i tend to steeer as far from cobb co as possible, as of the last 6 mo they have done nothing but provide alot of pain and greif

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johnzm wrote:
well, i was revving my current motor out to 10k (1.8 liter vtec), the rev limiter wasnt kicking correctly, after i saw a data log to 9900rpm, i fixed it back to 9300, where it should be;)

i had a 1.6 liter VTEC, and was constantly revving it to 10,000rpm but a couple of free revs went over that...

all that is in these motors is a semi built head, and a oem bottom end. valvetrain rocket motorsports gen1's with Ti retainers.

thanks for the info guys. i been working on it nonstop to get it out of this clip.
ok well, ya gotta realize that while you CAN rev a rb20 to 8.5 on stock stuff, you really shouldnt untill you get some cams and a decent sized turbo.also you are comparing a nissan engine to a honda motor, there is no compareson.least on nissans variable valve timing it makes hp AND torque .even the torqueless wonder the rb20 makes good torque, mine puts out 387whp and about 295ft/lbs........

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Carl H wrote:ok well, ya gotta realize that while you CAN rev a rb20 to 8.5 on stock stuff, you really shouldnt untill you get some cams and a decent sized turbo.also you are comparing a nissan engine to a honda motor, there is no compareson.least on nissans variable valve timing it makes hp AND torque .even the torqueless wonder the rb20 makes good torque, mine puts out 387whp and about 295ft/lbs........
i know im new here, but i am pretty knowledgable about engine dynamics and i am well aware that they put the factory rev limit there for a reason;)i dont expect for one second to be making power past (from all the dyno's i have seen, which is like 3 rb20's LOL) about 7200rpm so no need to rev this puppy, yet...

and can u please tell me ur setup, carl H?i would love to make thata sort of power on a RB 20, and i really dont see many people in this forum that are making sick power on the oldskool, lowly 2 liter


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