How many good SR's are left?

[dfw240_EE]

Recently I discovered that my KA is in fairly poor condition, and needs some work. Namely, a timing chain, and possibly a rebuild as one of the cylinders is missing and MIGHT need new rings. So if I have to rebuild the whole KA I am starting to think about just biting the bullet and getting the SR20DET.

I have long admired the SR20DET for having a more "square" engine than the KA with its big stroke, and lightweight aluminum design. However I have noticed that SR prices are going WAY up on the major sites (Phase2, HT), and Phase2 even mentions limited supply on their website. So this begs the question: "How many quality SR20DET's are left to go around?" Since these are all used engines, there must be a finite supply.

[n_bushaw]

i couldn't give u an exact awsere on how many are left but i know my motor is awsome and i got mine from Passwordjdm. thay didnt say they were out of them so i think thay are not having a shortage of them.hope i helped

[teddy]

In a sense there is a finite supply, but I don't think we have reached that limit yet. The prices are going up because the demand for the motors are going up. Companies are cashing in on the huge desire and jacking up prices because they can get away with it and still sell them.

As far as the supply of motors go, there were quite a few silvias/180s produced in japan. I would not be worried about them running out. Cars are getting in wrecks everyday in Japan somewhere, which if bad enough usually leads them to the junk yard. Thus engines/clips leave the salvage yards to here or elsewhere, but more come in..obviously not a steady stream, but some to offset the other. Also with a ton of sr's being present in the US...people that have had theirs will outgrow or move onto other things and sell their car or the motor, which decreases some of the demand to have them imported. Point: Theres enough SR's left.

[dfw240_EE]

For the time being, the increased prices is gently pushing me to just trying to fix the current KA. I will have a compression test done soon, we will see then.

But I am thinking that if this requires a full rebuild I may lean back to SR.

[drifter_for_life06]

could always try CA if on a tighter budget

[DrifterProdigy85]

SR isnt really in limited supply. Most shops only get one shipment a month and it all depends if the demand is there to keep the engines around. As of now, the SR20 is in very high demand so you have to place an order. RB20 costs the same as a CA18 but its better. Venus-Auto.com usually has good prices for front clips and other stuff.

[I ask good questions]

I got a swap done in August of 2005. My price quote went as follows: Redtop SR20DET motorset $1,550, Front Mount Intercooler(Greddy) $750, Labor $1,000, Misc fluids belts and hoses $150. By the end of it i also had to buy a clutch and small battery. I also got lucky and got a late model redtop with a T-28, Toda flywheel, and I think a metal headgasket. Great motor and cheap.

[Dori Dori]

Don't fret. Plenty of SR's still exist. Years ago CA people were worried that CA's were depleting in supply but you still find them for sale left and right.

[dfw240_EE]

I was thinking about this late last night. There were some 250,000 240SX's built for the USDM. Assume that about 1 in 10 will ever get in the hands of enthusiasts who will even consider doing something like this. That is about 25,000, maybe even 30,000 cars where a swap will be considered. Then consider that not everyone will opt for SR20DET, there is also KA, KA-T, SR, RB, CA, LS-1, LT-1, Ford 302, Rockets, Flux Capacitor, whatever. So assume that about 1 in 3 swaps will be SR (on account of its popularity), that is then 8,000 to 10,000 engines.

Now that estimate is probably WAY high, not even 1 in 10 240's will become project cars. However, compare that to the number of 180SX/Silvias produced in Japan and other markets (Australian 200SX's too).

The worst that will happen is that the supply of SR20DET's from K's trim level (and whatever was the 180SX equivalent) will run short and we will have to opt for Q's trim level SR20DE's and have to domestically source our own turbos and manifolds.

[DrifterProdigy85]

internals are different on the SR20DE i think. Dont they have 9.0:1 or 9.5:1 compression? Not exactly good compression for boost. Ive got 2 240s that are project cars right now. One with an SR and the other to get an RB20 hopefully.

[dfw240_EE]

internals are different on the SR20DE i think. Dont they have 9.0:1 or 9.5:1 compression? Not exactly good compression for boost. Ive got 2 240s that are project cars right now. One with an SR and the other to get an RB20 hopefully.

That actually makes sense. You could make it work though, if you worked at it.

[Dori Dori]

Well, those numbers don't work since other people also buy sr20det's from silvias (BMWs, 510s, trucks, ect).

Bottom line though, nobody's running out of motors. Its BS marketing hype to make excuses to raise prices.

[bigodom1]

i dont know man i think that i am going to buy two extras just so i don't have to pay such high price in a few months

[dfw240_EE]

Well, those numbers don't work since other people also buy sr20det's from silvias (BMWs, 510s, trucks, ect).

Bottom line though, nobody's running out of motors. Its BS marketing hype to make excuses to raise prices.

I did think about that, but I think 240's are going to make up the vast bulk of SR20DET sales. However, those numbers were just wild guesses anyways. Still with the # of K's built in Japan/Australia, I can see now that the supply should be decent.

[j87w]

Does anyone know how many SR20DET powered cars were sold in Japan? Im just curious as to how popular they were in Japan.

[jdm_master_X]

SR isnt really in limited supply. Most shops only get one shipment a month and it all depends if the demand is there to keep the engines around. As of now, the SR20 is in very high demand so you have to place an order. RB20 costs the same as a CA18 but its better. Venus-Auto.com usually has good prices for front clips and other stuff.

lately venus auto has been really trashy with the way they handle their SRs. today i went to pick up two of them and the price went up despite the crappy *** condition the clips were in (damaged parts/low compression/etc.) when i got my Type X clip, they removed a lot of goodies from it such as the bumper and what have you.

there is a place here in the bay area called Late Night Tuning (craigslist find) and they have 20 s13 black top front clips. im going to buy 3 at $2000 a piece. ill let u guys know what i find.

in terms of engine supply, i also believe its finite, but still bountiful. the SR was produced for nearly a decade in japan in abundance. in time the price will drop and there are always SR junkies like me with spare blocks laying around the house. we all have years to go before SRs become something rare...

[dsm007]

lately venus auto has been really trashy with the way they handle their SRs. today i went to pick up two of them and the price went up despite the crappy *** condition the clips were in (damaged parts/low compression/etc.) when i got my Type X clip, they removed a lot of goodies from it such as the bumper and what have you.

there is a place here in the bay area called Late Night Tuning (craigslist find) and they have 20 s13 black top front clips. im going to buy 3 at $2000 a piece. ill let u guys know what i find.

in terms of engine supply, i also believe its finite, but still bountiful. the SR was produced for nearly a decade in japan in abundance. in time the price will drop and there are always SR junkies like me with spare blocks laying around the house. we all have years to go before SRs become something rare...

Yeah I have seen the SR's have been going up alot lately because of demand in certain areas.........its all about the area and how may people are into it and know who to go through....heck in my area here in florida in this small town you had to pay $200 for a set of ractive brand coilovers from one shop here in town 5 years ago .....now the same set is about what?$40 on ebay? I see in the next year or two SR prices will drop,maybe not alot but a bit it will......and there will still be some up for grabs for most people because of demand and a big cash market out there(I heard even cars in Japan have been stolen just to keep the pipelines full of the flow here,but I hope that isnt true) At the same time a year or two from now we will see the RB's also become even more popular than they are now as people start jumping off of the SR's(leaves more blocks for us in the US although )....those motors are still in their infancy right now,but as people learn easier ways to put them in,figure out wire harness problems,make their own mounts,ect....heck AEM is asking guys for sensors for I guess maybe a prototype EMS for the RB20....the rb20 guys even figured out that you dont even need to modify a 5-speed transmission mount to make it fit anymore(like slotting the holes in it),they just bolt in an auto transmission mount now with an r32 subframe.....but yeah its a reason to see later on why SR's will probobly drop and we will see the RB's go up in demand later.........well lets see what happens later on,only time will tell.

[27RB240]

Hey you guys, I know this is alittle bit off subject but it still deals with front clips and I didnt want to make a post for such a simple question........there is a webstie:www.jrautoparts.com and I havent heard of anyone having experience from them except for like two people.......Well the place has SR20 front clips and S13 conversions and just about everything.........and they are reasonable prices too.....but I wanted to know if they were reliable and or a bad place, or if anyone had experience with them, cause they have had the same website for years. Thanks everyone and I hope this site is worth something!!! I kno that this is kind of a thread jack but it deals with the subject alittle............

[teddy]

I havent heard of them or anything about them, but it does worry me that this place that sells "JDM engines and parts" also sells spinners.

[wildacexxx]

yeaaa spinners!!! sr's will be available for a long time. dont worry theres still s14 srs and s15 srs to go through . wat i have seen though that if u want a quality engine u have to pay good money for one unless your local. i hate being in nyc there arent any places here