How many G50s were sold?

[Peterofdevon]

What are the stats on how many G50s by type (Active, T, std.) were sold by year in the states? And world wide by country/region?

Does anyone know?

It would be great to see a list by color as well.

Peter

[goody90q45]

Had it bookmarked since the last time the topic came up. Maybe a mod can post it up.

http://www.nissannews.com/infi...s.pdf

[Peterofdevon]

I remember that chart. Wondering though what the count was by type.

Like...I wonder how many 1996a's in blacK?

I should get a life.

Peter

[qship96]

easy-no 96 a ever produced

[TBrack]

easy-no 96 a ever produced

lol very true

[StarPD]

Had it bookmarked since the last time the topic came up. Maybe a mod can post it up.

http://www.nissannews.com/infi...s.pdf

Interesting.My 2005 White Pearl Q45 is one of only 1129 of all colors sold in the U.S. in that year.I guess I won't be seeing myself coming and going anywhere.Despite a few minor quibbles with driving feedback from the car (steering and ride mostly, both pretty much mitigated with 18x8" TSW wheels and 245/45ZR18 RE050A "Pole Position" tires), I like it a LOT.

Thanks for the info.

[MattB]

Some things about that chart that don't make sense:

They sold a NEW J30 in 2000? How? That's 3 years after it was discontinued. And they sold -1 G20s in 2005?

[maxnix]

Some things about that chart that don't make sense:

They sold a NEW J30 in 2000? How? That's 3 years after it was discontinued. And they sold -1 G20s in 2005?

Sales are reported by the calendar year, not the model year.

A few Y34 M45 were sold in 2006 when the Y50 M45 was introduced. No distinction between them in the annual sales report.

[elwesso]

Dreyer and reinbold Infiniti on the south side of Indianapolis still has a brand new 2004 Q45 !!!

[szh]

Check this out too: zerothread?id=191187.

I have not updated it since December ... will do that soon.

Z

[Jesda]

There's still -new- Oldsmobiles sitting in inventory. There's also new 2002 Qs wasting away.

[MattB]

Sales are reported by the calendar year, not the model year.

A few Y34 M45 were sold in 2006 when the Y50 M45 was introduced. No distinction between them in the annual sales report.

Yeah I know it's by calendar year. It just surprises me that there were any J30s left in 2000.

[Jesda]

Based on how Infiniti treats the Q badge, I'd say a total of 35 were sold.

[StarPD]

Based on how Infiniti treats the Q badge, I'd say a total of 35 were sold.

That is perhaps, a little extreme, but still, not far off the mark. The G 50 was one of the most brilliant executions of an all-around performance luxury car ever attempted. Incredibly obtuse marketing ruined it in it's birth however, and only us enthusiasts were wise enough to capitalize on it. Fortunately, due to that same incompetence on the part of Infiniti's marketing people, depreciation of used Q45s was so great that it allowed many of us to own them, who otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford them.

To make up for this gaffe, Infiniti introduced the emasculated, smaller, and more profitable for them Y33. It did no better. Finally, Infiniti introduced the excellent F50. But once again, they shot themselves in the foot. Trying to imitate Lexus, they softened it too much, and despite efforts to make it a true "luxury car", they dismissed such items as automatic door locks, like my wife's 200 Ford Focus wagon has. They also failed to provide a SIX speed auto trans, and a "Sport" version was too late and still lacking.

Moving the seat controls to the bottom of the seat was cheaper, but emulated lower priced cars like the Honda Accord and others. They left out a standard "Bluetooth" capability, lighted steering wheel controls, a cruise control that doesn't buck at road speeds when descending a steep grade, and even continuation of wood trim around the nav system controls.

As for performance, it is too soft and vague in steering response and lacks good weight distribution and neutral handling. They should have driven a BMW 545 to see what a true driver's car should be.

All in all, Infiniti missed the mark once again. One can only wonder at the mindset of the designers, and top management. What could they have been thinking? None of these items would have raised the price significantly, but would have made it a winner. If they would have produced a more capable and complete luxury performance car, built it in enough quantity to satisfy demand, and embarked on a comprehensive advertising campaign, they COULD have skunked both BMW and Lexus and other similar cars.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely LOVE my 2005 Q45. I've already addressed some of the steering/handling/ride ills by changing to the 18x8-40 TSW wheels and 245/45ZR18-100W Bridgestone RE050A "Pole Position" tires. And while there is no known aftermarket, or even other interchangable components to further address steering, and handling issues, I have my own ideas. While it's true that with money one can accomplish anything, I believe that with persistence, determination, and time, one can solve shortcomings on almost any car relatively inexpensively. Because I like my 2005 Q45 so much, I intend to do just that.

Infiniti is supposed to introduce another Q45 in perhaps 2009. Let's hope that they get it right this time, and bring us another G 50, but updated and with even more performance capability, and more standard luxury features, hopefully ones that won't compromise reliability.

We'll see.

[BadQ45t]

It is real popular to bash the Y33, but emasculated, come on dude...the 97 outsold the 96 by a major factor. The car didn't sell that well, but trust me, my Tein Spring/KYB SR Special 19" Briddgestone RE050A's make mine handle pretty friggin' nice, the car is smooth as silk. What they should have done is put you engine and interior into the exterior of the 2nd generation Q which BTW I think looks 10x more like a luxury car than the 3rd gen that looks like an I30 with air inflated. Trust me I like your engine, like your interior, but the 3rd gen exterior is a snore.

[StarPD]

It is real popular to bash the Y33, but emasculated, come on dude...the 97 outsold the 96 by a major factor. The car didn't sell that well, but trust me, my Tein Spring/KYB SR Special 19" Briddgestone RE050A's make mine handle pretty friggin' nice, the car is smooth as silk. What they should have done is put you engine and interior into the exterior of the 2nd generation Q which BTW I think looks 10x more like a luxury car than the 3rd gen that looks like an I30 with air inflated. Trust me I like your engine, like your interior, but the 3rd gen exterior is a snore.

Well, like the Mafia says: "Nothin' personal, just business".

The Y33 was an effort to keep the cost down. The G50 was just too expensive to produce, and raising the price would have completely killed it. So the Y33 was based on a smaller, lighter Japanese model, I forget the name. It was cheaper in many respects than the G50, and was not up to G50 standards. My daughter-in-law drives a 2000 Q45, and it's certainly a nice car. But it's no G50 by any stretch of imagination. The approximately 400 lbs saved on the Y33 was offset by reducing displacement from 4.5 to 4.1 liters, yet another cost-saving move, and an attempt at better fuel mileage. Allegedly, performance was the same, but I think not.

The F50 on the other hand, admittedly, for the reasons I stated missed the mark too, but at least it was bigger, faster, and regained half of the lost weight in improvements all the way around.

As for looking like an " an I30 with air inflated", The F50 is in my book at least, a lot more contemporary and sleek looking. The lower cd is a direct result of the styling, and I think Infiniti did a fair job designing it. Unlike the Y33, the F50 is its own car, not a takeoff on a cheaper model. Too bad Infiniti cheapened the rear suspension. An improved rear suspension would have made the F50 a better car, but as it is, it is an excellent one.

The Y33 failed because of its characteristics. The F 50 failed because Infiniti short-changed an otherwise well-done car, then compounded that with it's penchant for poor marketing and advertising.

If Infiniti had put the effort all the way around into the F50, like they did with the second-generation M45, and promoted it better, it would have sold a LOT more cars than it did. Somewhere, Infiniti dropped the ball when they created the F50, but at least they regained some of what they lost with the Y33. They just didn't go quite far enough.

F 50 a "snore"?Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the improvements in the F 50 over the emasculated Y33 are undeniable. It just needed a little more than it got. The base chassis, if stiffened and with a better rear suspension and a few more luxury items would have accomplished what Infiniti needed for its flagship.

Don't kill the messenger that brought the bad news.

[Infinitiguy19]

Had it bookmarked since the last time the topic came up. Maybe a mod can post it up.

http://www.nissannews.com/infi...s.pdf

Hey does anyone still have this chart?

[slybydesignq45t]

StarPD, I have to admit. In 2004 or 3 I went to an Autoshow here in San Diego and was very pleased with the F50. That at the time was the only car I actually wanted to get in; in the entire venue. I was awed at the interior design, still one of the best interior designs today in my opinion. For some reason I think Nissan share way to much design concepts because I was fully displeased at the fact that they made the Altima body design way to close to the F50. It was at that point when I said consumers wouldn't really be able to tell the difference from the outside with the exception of there being a size difference. Since crashing and selling my Q45T, I have been keeping my eye out for a Y33, specifically a 1998-2000. Even during me looking around until I have the right funds together I have been drooling over a G50 again. For some reason I can't take the concept of the G50 out of my mind. The only reason why I would not by a G50 is because of the cost to keep them running. I like the Y33 because I think its the best of both worlds. I feel like I may toy around with another G50 in the next couple of months, because I have learned.

If I had the money I would jump right into a M45 wow, what a car. After all the years have past since the auto show, I could never figure out why they used similar body styles between the Altima and F50, instead of something else. Hopefully I can rejoin the forum with a nice G50.

[BadQ45t]

The model was a Cima that the Y33 is based on...emasculated, your words and your belief. I would not have thrown down on a 2005 Q. I saw one the other day and thought it was a I35, at least my 1997 has a unique look.

BTW, if you look at suspension the Y33 and G50 are very similar. You got the extra power and I love your interior, but overall one of the biggest failures in the history of automotive history. They sold more 1997's in the first 6 months than they sold G50's in the entire 6 year history.