how do you tighten crank bolt to 270 ft. lb.??

[SUB ZERO CAR FANATIC]

Glad to hear you got it capt., really puts your strength to the test hugh! i will be happy to when i can say.....'' HEY GUYS I GOT IT DONE'' . THE chain wrench my cousin brought me wasnt even long enough to go around pulley,what a bummer!! so did you put a pipe on end of chain wrench and bind it under crossmember or something? i couldnt imagine anyone holding it with one arm and having enough strength in the other to get 270 on the bolt!? thanks for the idea!

SUBZERO

[Q45tech]

I would think by now every 90-96 Q has had the front main seal replaced at least once probably twice on earlier units. They all leak just like rear main seal eventually.

The proper chain wrench is standard equipment, if your shop doesn't have one you can be sure they don't work on Q or many other brands.

[captainluigi]

mxr662, just left har.frts. site. could not find chain wrench. please advise. possible part#? thx

[captainluigi]

never mind. found under plumbing tools as chain pipe wrench. DOH

[pjq45]

I used a big flat head on the flywheel teeth. To hold the crank from spinning. On my 93 there is holes in the bottom of the bell housing.

[captainluigi]

don't know why but that seems like a lot of stress to apply to a flywheel tooth.

[mxr662]

If we know the radius of the flywheel we can calculate the force.

[mxr662]

How much will the wrench cost with shipping?

[captainluigi]

$20.00 masa minos.

[RAP]

$20.00 "masa minos" ? ? ?.

"Mas O menos" ? ? ? better stick to "more or less"

Jack

[SUB ZERO CAR FANATIC]

CAPT. are you picking bup a chain wrench? Interested in helping me out? would you rent it for a day,ill pay shipping and a loaners fee.how much do they sell for! thanks

[SUB ZERO CAR FANATIC]

CAPTAINLUIGI..... are you going to pick up a chain wrench!, would you be interested in helping out a fellow nico brother? would you rent it to me for a day? ill cover shipping both ways and pay you a lenders fee. How much do they sell for??

thanks, SUBZEROCARFANATIC

[Q45tech]

I cannot imagine that with the trucks in Fairbanks that there are not multi dozens of them.............maybe you need to call around diesel shops:

Common tool in pipefitting- oil rigs

http://independentrentalinc.com/TOOLS.html CALL FOR INFORMATION AND RATES: (888) 456-6595 or (907) 456-6595 2020 SOUTH CUSHMAN ST. FAIRBANKS, ALASKA 99701

Kenworth Alaska3730 Braddock StreetFairbanks, Alaska, 99701Phone: (907)455-9900, Fax: (907)479-8295

Pacific Detroit Diesel-Allison3177 North Van Horn RoadFairbanks, Alaska, 99701Phone: (907)479-1235

G T Automotive Llc3775 South Cushman StreetFairbanks, Alaska, 99701Phone: (907)457-1955

[captainluigi]

Sub Zero, no i have no need to add that to my arsenal. but as Dennis & i both suggest borrow or go to harbor frieghts web site. search ''chain pipe wrench. $10.00 + shp. i am sure that would be cheaper than shipping from fl to you back to fl. glk

[SUB ZERO CAR FANATIC]

Thanks very much Dennis,i really appreciate your time and help,your always a very helpful person. Nico is very lucky to have such a knowledgeable person with such willingness to help others in need. Thank you once again for all your help my friend. i found one at independent rental on South Cushman fo $10 a day,cool

[SUB ZERO CAR FANATIC]

What a coincidence, i ended up going to a place called INDEPENDANT RENTAL this morning and rented the chain wrench . I come home tonight and post here and what do i see you referred me to the place i found out about this morning!!!!, anyway just wanted to say thanks for taking the time out to help,its appreciated very much!!!!

[Ford Falcon]

If you had the oil pan off, you could wedge something like a hard plastic rod or the handle of a hammer between the a rod and the block. This is from the '02 FSM on removing the pulley.

This is the method I used today. As for removing the pulley nut, I just grabbed a 4' pipe I keep around for just such situations. As we Aussies say, "it was a piece of piss'. Spray on some WD-40, 30mm socket, long handle 1/2" drive, put the pipe over that, gave it a snap and BAM!, off she came, no sweat, no fuss.

[dlduscg]

I used a trick I was told by an old time farm hand (female) who maintained all of her tractors, and it worked for me when I had to untorque/torque the crankshaft bolt on my dodge van. Simply put, if you remove one of the spark plugs, and feed a length of clothesline rope into the cylinder until it is full, then when you torque the bolt, the piston will compress the rope and stop the engine from turning without damaging the cylinder, thereby enabling you to apply the necessary torque to loosen or tighten the bolt. However, the required torque on the 318 engine was a lot less than the 270 required on the Q, I believe it was only about 150 ft lbs...so all considered, it just might work.

[dlduscg]

It appears I will need help with my 99 Q crankshaft pulley problem....can anyone tell me if the entire pulley must be replaced to fix a bad bearing, or does the pulley come with the bearing installed into the pulley? Can the bearing be replaced without replacing the pulley?

[dlduscg]

Also, is this a common problem with the Q, or could it be the idler pulleys acting on the crankshaft instead? Hoping for an easier fix, I guess.

[Q451990]

I'm not sure what bearing you're replacing... The crank shaft harmonic balancer does not have any bearings that I'm aware of. It just feeds the belts that drive the accessories. The bearings in the accesory pullies are frequent wear items, causing everything from chirping to howling noises. New accessory pullies come preloaded with new bearings, or there are some write ups on replacing the bearings independently.

Heath

[dlduscg]

My auto tech replaced the crank shaft harmonic balancer and although I advised him to be sure and torque to 270 ft lbs, he said that he got it to 240 and did not dare to go any higher, even though the specs requirements calls for 260 to 275...what are my risks to leave it that way?

[dlduscg]

Reply to Heath Q451990

You are exactly right. The idler pulley (tensioner) between the P/S and Crank is the bearing of concern, and not on the crankshaft pulley...excuse the brain freeze

[OwnerCS]

Chain wrenches (large size) around here go for $350 to $400 with no rental availability.

[OwnerCS]

I wonder if this Toyota wrench will work?

Factory specifications required up to 280 (Not Infiniti Spec) pounds of torque to seat the pulley properly.

This tool allows the factory torque to be attained.

This holding tool works with the following engines: Lexus 1990 and later. 3.0 L6, 3.0 V6, 3.3 V6, 4.0 V8, 4.3 V8, 4.7 V8. Toyota 1996 and later. 3.0 V6, 3.3 V6, 4.0 V6, 4.7 V8. Also, 4 cyl: 1983-1995 22RE, 1995-2004 2RZ & 1995-2004 3RZ.

This special tools is required to remove the crank shaft bolt - no factory tool available
Hole in center of tool - allows access for removal of crank shaft bolt

Offset breaker bar attachment point - allows easy removal and replacement of crank shaft bolt to factory torque specifications

Low profile design - no need to remove radiator or other components to access and remove Harmonic Damper Pulley

http://shoptoolsshoptools.com/shopexd.asp?id=24301

[OwnerCS]

I wonder if this Toyota wrench will work?

Factory specifications required up to 280 (Not Infiniti Spec) pounds of torque to seat the pulley properly.

This tool allows the factory torque to be attained.

This holding tool works with the following engines: Lexus 1990 and later. 3.0 L6, 3.0 V6, 3.3 V6, 4.0 V8, 4.3 V8, 4.7 V8. Toyota 1996 and later. 3.0 V6, 3.3 V6, 4.0 V6, 4.7 V8. Also, 4 cyl: 1983-1995 22RE, 1995-2004 2RZ & 1995-2004 3RZ.

This special tools is required to remove the crank shaft bolt - no factory tool available
Hole in center of tool - allows access for removal of crank shaft bolt

Offset breaker bar attachment point - allows easy removal and replacement of crank shaft bolt to factory torque specifications

Low profile design - no need to remove radiator or other components to access and remove Harmonic Damper Pulley

http://shoptoolsshoptools.com/shopexd.asp?id=24301

Here's another source

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp ... ir=catalog


:-)

[OwnerCS]

Does this chain wrench look like it will work?

20" long heavy-duty drop forged handle
24" long chain will wrap around large pipes

I believe it is the same tool as the one in the following link.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... Aggregates



http://cgi.ebay.com/24-Long-Chain-Pipe- ... 415332adb1


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[dlduscg]

Another method used by old farm hands is to remove one of the spark plugs and feed a length of clothes line rope into the cylinder until its firmly packed., leaving enough outside to pull it back out. This will prevent the cylinder from reaching the top of the bore and cushion it preventing damage to the cylinder but allowing torque to be placed on the crank bolt without moving the engine..it worked great on my on my dodge van but I would leave the Q experts to chime in their opinions before attempting this

[djwarner]

dlduscg,

You're spot on. I learned this trick working on aircraft engines.

What bothers me most is forgetting such useful information while remembering Debra Harry songs.

[OwnerCS]

Another method used by old farm hands is to remove one of the spark plugs and feed a length of clothes line rope into the cylinder until its firmly packed., leaving enough outside to pull it back out. This will prevent the cylinder from reaching the top of the bore and cushion it preventing damage to the cylinder but allowing torque to be placed on the crank bolt without moving the engine..it worked great on my on my dodge van but I would leave the Q experts to chime in their opinions before attempting this

Good idea! I wish I had known that a little earlier as I had to search out and wait for a chain wrench to do the job.

It reminds me of a trick I learned many moons ago for installing spark plugs into an old Dodge "slant six" by using a short piece of fuel line to get the plug started without cross threading.

So for entertainment purposes, here's a picture of the chain and torque wrench setup.. I took an old piece of belt and wrapped the crank pulley then used duct tape to hold it in place while I wrapped the chain wrench around it..