how do you put drift events together?
how do you put drift events together?
i would like to start something because there is nothing done in my areas. i dont know what to do haha but i know many people that interested in doing this legal
Re: how do you put drift events together? (arcadia)
first step is to find a facility to hold the event.
once you find a facility, you need to find insurance (the track will have requirements on policy amount, coverage, etc) . sometimes you can use the facilities, sometimes you need to provide your own. if you need to find your own its easier to contact bigger groups (drift day, clubloose, DGTrials, etc etc etc) and use theirs because buying your own policy, as a first time organizer is NOT cheap, and NOT easy.
running events is a lot of work, a lot of bull****, and can cost a lot of money.
make sure you know what you are getting yourself into. ive been running events for a few years now.
once you find a facility, you need to find insurance (the track will have requirements on policy amount, coverage, etc) . sometimes you can use the facilities, sometimes you need to provide your own. if you need to find your own its easier to contact bigger groups (drift day, clubloose, DGTrials, etc etc etc) and use theirs because buying your own policy, as a first time organizer is NOT cheap, and NOT easy.
running events is a lot of work, a lot of bull****, and can cost a lot of money.
make sure you know what you are getting yourself into. ive been running events for a few years now.
Re: how do you put drift events together? (Joe)
i was thinking of starting smaller for maybe a paved lot. this is what we have been talking about anyway. then if we get more people showing everytime we can worry about real courses and insurance. how much is insurance?
Re: how do you put drift events together? (arcadia)
LOL parking lots require insurance too my friend.
what happens if a car goes off track and hits a spectator? you think the track wants to be liable? hahahaha
ANY event you run will require insurance. GUARANTEED.
cost of insurance depends on the size of the policy and who you talk to. i dont want to give out a number because it can really vary from 300-400 on the low end to 1000-1500 if you try to go it yourself. thats for a standard 2-5million dollar policy.
what happens if a car goes off track and hits a spectator? you think the track wants to be liable? hahahaha
ANY event you run will require insurance. GUARANTEED.
cost of insurance depends on the size of the policy and who you talk to. i dont want to give out a number because it can really vary from 300-400 on the low end to 1000-1500 if you try to go it yourself. thats for a standard 2-5million dollar policy.
Re: how do you put drift events together? (Joe)
that is not so bad. even if it is 1500 we already can get enough people to pay for that easy. i thought it would be more from how you talked. there are special companies for this?
closest meets to here are 3 hours drive or i would not worry
closest meets to here are 3 hours drive or i would not worry
Re: how do you put drift events together? (arcadia)
well then you have to pay for the track which is usually 700+, and all the other **** that will come uparcadia wrote:that is not so bad. even if it is 1500 we already can get enough people to pay for that easy. i thought it would be more from how you talked. there are special companies for this?
closest meets to here are 3 hours drive or i would not worry
a parking lot event (on average out here) will cost 2000-3000$ when its all said and done, and we are on the low end of the insurance pricing i posted.
and youll find out that a LOT of people talk a bunch of **** about wanting to drive, but when it comes times to pony up and pay, they dont. so take the number of people who have said "yes" so far and half it.
Re: how do you put drift events together? (Joe)
well maybe but this has been discussed. people will put money into a pool until we have enough. even if everyone is cheap it may take only month or two. anyone to puss out during paypal pool party has to show up at event with enough tires for others or they cant join. friends or not money is money.
maybe you can tell me of what kind of insurance companies to talk to?
thank you for the help
maybe you can tell me of what kind of insurance companies to talk to?
thank you for the help
Re: how do you put drift events together? (arcadia)
your going to need a facility before you talk to insurance.
if you really want to go at it alone, talk to K & K insurance http://www.kandkinsurance.com/ you are considered an "independent motorsports club"
and thats a good idea but its hard to get a lot of people to just randomly fork over money without a date, or without anything of substance.
if you really want to go at it alone, talk to K & K insurance http://www.kandkinsurance.com/ you are considered an "independent motorsports club"
and thats a good idea but its hard to get a lot of people to just randomly fork over money without a date, or without anything of substance.
Re: how do you put drift events together? (Joe)
ok so price for insurance based on venue? or you just saying its pointless to talk to them before getting this.
since you run events do you get any sponsors for simple things like bringing business to a tire shop? not big money but just a little help? maybe this isnt easy to answer depends on many things. just wondering.
since you run events do you get any sponsors for simple things like bringing business to a tire shop? not big money but just a little help? maybe this isnt easy to answer depends on many things. just wondering.
Re: how do you put drift events together? (arcadia)
yes price is based on venue. both in the requirements of the venue and what the insurance company will ask for. (track map, spectator area/safety, krail placement if necessary, etc). you have to have a location before anything else.arcadia wrote:ok so price for insurance based on venue? or you just saying its pointless to talk to them before getting this.
since you run events do you get any sponsors for simple things like bringing business to a tire shop? not big money but just a little help? maybe this isnt easy to answer depends on many things. just wondering.
yes we have always had local shops help with our events. we usually give them a booth out at the event and depending on how big the sponsorship is we title them as event main sponsor.
like "joes speed shop presents drifting at bla bla bla"
Re: how do you put drift events together? (Joe)
sorry about 20 questions man. has it been 20 yet?
when you started did you randomly go from shop to shop asking? were you more inclined to ask performance related shops?
your ls1 is ridiculous. unreasonable. isnt it blasphemy to put gm into an import?
ha
when you started did you randomly go from shop to shop asking? were you more inclined to ask performance related shops?
your ls1 is ridiculous. unreasonable. isnt it blasphemy to put gm into an import?
ha
Re: how do you put drift events together? (arcadia)
ive been around the local "scene" for many years. all the shops knew me. so when we started running drift events it was just a matter of asking.
and no, its not. because it made the car better. its not my problem nissan doesnt make a good, cheap, high power, super reliable engine, that i can get parts for anywhere, for next to nothing.
i have a custom cam in my engine. the only one in existence. it cost me the same price as an off the shelf one and took 2 weeks to make. try that with any nissan.
and no, its not. because it made the car better. its not my problem nissan doesnt make a good, cheap, high power, super reliable engine, that i can get parts for anywhere, for next to nothing.
i have a custom cam in my engine. the only one in existence. it cost me the same price as an off the shelf one and took 2 weeks to make. try that with any nissan.
Re: how do you put drift events together? (Joe)
i know you caught the sarcasm.
comp cams regrind?
comp cams regrind?
Re: how do you put drift events together? (arcadia)
of course
and no, blank grind from thunder racing.
and no, blank grind from thunder racing.
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Re: how do you put drift events together?
Thanks for the info guys!!!
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heres our short list, and what our tech inspector actually looks atarcadia wrote:is there an online list of safety requirements for events? dont want to overlook anything.
ech Inspection - All cars must pass some sort of tech inspection to get on a track.
- Must have SA2000 or higher helmet. Some sanctioning bodies allow M2000 and up. Please check with the organizers on which one you can use. TBF and NASA allow M2000 helmets.
- Tires must show good tread and cannot be corded.
- All front seatbelts must be in working order. Harnesses are ok as long as they are mounted correctly.
- Headlights(if night event) and brake lights must be in working order.
- Battery must have a tie down. If the battery is rear mount it must be tied down and covered in a battery box.
- All wheel bearings must be free of side play.
- Brakes should have at least half their life left. I recommend newer pads if you are track racing.
- Steering system must be in good working order and should not be loose.
- Windshield cannot have any cracks over 1'.
- No leaking fluids.
- All lug nuts must be present.
- All body panels must be present.
inspectors notes:Pretty basic stuff really. I check the drift cars as closely as i do for SCCA events. Some stuff is okay for drifting but not for SCCA... but the person running the event makes the final call as they paid the insurance for the event and are overall responsible.
Under the hood:- I look at the engine and radiator for what could be moderate/major fluid leaks- I look at the master cylinder for leaks or weaping- I check the throttle cable linkage at the TB/Carb- I check to ensure the battery is tied down and that there is a non-conductive cover over the positive terminal. I dont gig them on the terminal, but i ask that they do cover it.
Outside the car:- I check that all of the lugs and lug nuts are present. The person running the event may or may not allow a vehicle to run if it's missing one.- I push on both front wheels at the top to ensure wheel bearings are serivceable and not too loose.- I check condition of tires. Clearly at a drift event, several people will be using used tires. I look to see if theyre dry rotted or cracked and if they're fronts, I look for usable tread if it's a street tire.- I check the windshield if it's cracked more than 12" and cracks across the drivers side of the screen.
Inside the car- I remind them to remove all loose items,- I check seat belts and anchor points for harnesses- I shake the wheels for looseness and play- I shake the seat to ensure it's fastened securely
Your Helmet- I check to ensure it's at least SA2000 or MA2000.- I check it for cracks or impacts
It should go without saying, but buy, beg, borrow or steal a torque wrench and torque your wheel's lug nuts to spec. Weird and odd things happen well enough without inviting the misfortune of a wheel coming off mid drift/mid corner... or anywhere.