How do you guys make your turns?

[1njen]

This is for all the 6mts.

Okay, so let's say a left turn is coming up and you start to break from 40mph. You don't need to come to a complete stop. Sooooooo do you...

A) Clutch in, break, make the turn, down shift, clutch out.

B) Down shift, engine-break a little, make the turn all without touching the break.

C) A combination of the two above.

D) Down shift, accelerate, fishtail, and drift that bad boy.

Hahaha but in all seriousness, which ones would you guys prefer? I guess A would have the least clutch/engine wear while increasing break ware. B would be the opposite. I'm usually A and B depending on how the planets are aligned and the time of day. Any opinions?

Wouldn't break ware be better than engine/clutch ware? It IS significantly cheaper.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Save your clutch and use your breaks.

I do number 3 all the time!

DJ

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Correction I do number 4 all the time!

DJ

[Ar878]

C) A combination of the two above.

But, I like to engine brake as much as I can. As long as you rev match, I don't think it does a considerable amount of wear to the clutch, does it? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not 100 percent sure...

[1njen]

i'm not very sure about how much clutch wear there is but its probably more than just breaking when clutched in. it might also rough on the syncros if you don't rev match.

[CYO44Baseball32]

I'm a fan of B

[Jacko3]

I usually do number 3. However, not completely as it is mostly a combination of about 85% of A and 15% of B, depending on the volume of traffic, how tight the corner is, the way my G is behaving based on input and other environmental conditions (temperature, humidity, etc), how quickly or how important where I am going really is, how frisky or crazy I am on that day, etc. My driving is based on a host of factors. I don't do anything on the steering wheel without accessing as many factors as possible and i do it very fast, as some factors are important than other factors in different situations. Sorry, i couldn't make this as simple as possible

[Ar878]

I usually do number 3. However, not completely as it is mostly a combination of about 85% of A and 15% of B, depending on the volume of traffic, how tight the corner is, the way my G is behaving based on input and other environmental conditions (temperature, humidity, etc), how quickly or how important where I am going really is, how frisky or crazy I am on that day, etc. My driving is based on a host of factors. I don't do anything on the steering wheel without accessing as many factors as possible and i do it very fast, as some factors are important than other factors in different situations. Sorry, i couldn't make this as simple as possible

+1environmental factors are also something to think about, especially when they can drastically change the way your car handles the turn.

[Beancooker]

If anyone chooses #1, GTFO the manual and get an autotragic, because you obviously don't know how to drive.

[infinitgkid]

How do I make a turn in my G?

Well it depends on what kind of turn I'm making...

If it's a left turn then I'm gonna turn the wheel left, vice versa for a right turn...

No offense to the OP, but what exactly is the purpose of this thread again?

[CrackaLackin]

How do I make a turn in my G?

Well it depends on what kind of turn I'm making...

If it's a left turn then I'm gonna turn the wheel left, vice versa for a right turn...

No offense to the OP, but what exactly is the purpose of this thread again?

shh, they already hate the AT enough as it is

[joe603]

I guess it depends on my mood...I've used all those options

[G_whizz]

Ok... I'll play..

Option B and D

[awdjdmtalon]

Depends where I am driving. In the mountians I rev match down shifts, eng brake a little, but trail brake into the turn to get the car to rotate, then power out of the corner w/ a little tail slide for run.

I like to put some weight on the front end for bite.

[Sentientbydesign]

When I first learned to drive manual, I did A. I soon learned that A isn't very safe and is a poor method of driving manual.

Normally, under those circumstances (making a left turn), I'll Clutch-in, blip the throttle, clutch out, brake. OR if I'm going way too fast, I'll clutch in, brake enough so that rev matching puts me below 4k, blip the throttle, clutch-out, then adjust brake/throttle as necessary through the turn.

Right hand turns are different. Especially with the idiots I drive around. If I'm coming to a slow right, I will sometimes go around the corner out of gear, because I might have to come to a complete stop (which will mean 2+ shifts in a few seconds) or I might have plenty of room to leave it in 3rd and take off.

[kmckis1029]

i have never been side ways in my g35x... but im a engine braker... i usually drop to 2nd gear right as im making a right hand turn onto a street and accellerate out of the turn in 2nd gear... only using the brakes if needed.

im usually in third gear on a left hand turn, unless i was sitting at a light.

why some people bag on the auto transmission i dont understand... because the manual mode on a g35 it not intrusive and matches revs pretty well. i have driven other cars with a so called "manual mode" that will still upshift for you once you tap the rev limiter... while the g35 just holds the gear... and if you dumb enough to run at 6600 rpm in 2nd going 45mph it'll let you do that.

Then in general a normal driver cant shift as fast as the TCU can. Most high end cars now a dayz are clutchless. the new porsche semi auto transmission with a novice driver would out shift the best manual transmission with a expert driver.

with a manual you just get full control over the car... so there are no "delays" because you shifted the gear when you wanted... to me it a preception thing. i thought i was going to miss a manual transmission because i wanted AWD... no regrets here so far.

[kmckis1029]

porsche PDK transmission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-clutch_gearbox

[Sentientbydesign]

Higher redline, higher peak horsepower, another gear, and more control would be my reasons for choosing the MT versus AT.

I now believe that an ecu reset would have given me a different perception of that autos, but when I bought my car I didn't know that. All I knew was that the two autos that I test drove were sluggish as all hell and I wasn't going to spend 20k+ on a slow car. For that, I could just fix up my I30 which felt "faster".

[kmckis1029]

yeah i agree... my car when i first brought it was sluggish in auto... but after i reset my ecu and it "learned" my habits... its been a blast... but i test drove the car in manual mode and drive it in manual mode most of the time.

[telcoman]

This is for all the 6mts.

Okay, so let's say a left turn is coming up and you start to break from 40mph. You don't need to come to a complete stop. Sooooooo do you...

B) Down shift, engine-break a little, make the turn all without touching the break.

Wouldn't break ware be better than engine/clutch ware? It IS significantly cheaper.

I rarely use my brakes unless I have to.

For example lets say I'm doing 60 & in 6th gear and a left turn is coming up.I will downship to 5th,then to 4th, then to 3rd, & then to 2nd gear & make the turn in 2nd gear as it brakes the car to around 20 MPH while in the turn. After the turn accelerate as conditions permit.

Exiting the New Jersey Turnpike or any high speed freeway, slow down from 75 MPH or so to 60, downshift to 5th on the off ramp to 45 or 50, downshift to 4th or possibly 3rd to 30 MPG go thru toll booth with EZ Pass & accelerate after toll booth never touching the brakes unless there is a A$$hole in front of me.

Downshifting will not wear out a clutch. Brakes usually last me over 100k miles and clutches close to 200k miles

Highly reving an engine & poping the clutch to burn rubber will.

Telcoman

[Jacko3]

Telcoman:

But if I don't rev my engine from 5,000 to 6,000 RPM in 2nd and 3rd gear, would I ever be happy? Imagine Jacko revving up only to 3,000RPM---Jacko get mad, cry, and unhappy


Modified by Jacko3 at 8:48 AM 11/25/2008

[adren77]

I heel toe every time.... although i don't have small feet. I find the brake and gas pedal are just the right distance apart for the left side of my foot to press brake and right side to press gas at the same time.

So basically I am braking and while I am braking I rev match down shift.

[Jacko3]

Wow, you seem to be always on the edge when you drive your G. I love that! Well done! I am that way as well, until i see the cops, and then I calm down a bit.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I guess that is cuz drifters do it sideways

[BrandAidDesignG35]

I do a good deal of downshifting, like telcoman, I rarely use my brakes unless necessary (99 Altima GXE)

In the G, it is an auto, so I have nothing to contribute to this thread, until I find a 6mt coupe that is...

If I had a G35 coupe 6mt, I'd probably drive it pretty hard honestly... Jacko tells me this is OK.

[Jacko3]

Thats right! The 6MT loves to be routinely spanked. Watch out for cops, though. They have a thing for G-35s, 350Zs, Evos, and STIs.

[BrandAidDesignG35]

Today I was late for work, and I was blowing past cars on the outside lane when I saw a cop coming towards me in the other direction, I dropped into 2nd and got my speed down ASAP! I thought for sure he was on me for that one... lol, I guess the altima isn't as flashy as the G, Z, sti or evo... lol

[zozoka1212]

Well I just shift down to where the rpm is at least 4k going in the corner and I floor it. I do this in almost every weather condition. I am guessing that's maybe the reason I have to get new set of tires every 12-13k.

LOL

zozo