how do I choose which coilovers

[Ruff Ryder 6]

any one have any input on what i asked?

[crackler]

AFAIK, the S13 doesn't use inserts in the rear. At least my Koni's didn't. The fronts where inserts on my Koni's

Are the Bilstiens inserts only???

Not sure what you are trying to do?

[Ruff Ryder 6]

guess i should explain a lil more. the rears are not normally inserts but according to the post by 95lstegman he said "2) you can go Koni quality w/o having annoying rear adjustments. use inserts in the rears instead of OTS 240SX struts." i was wanting to know what i might use in that case. the bilsteins are not insert only but if there was a comparable insert for the bilstein and koni, i would like to use a bilstein. the fronts are not available for a 240sx but the rears for a 300zx are OTS available. i am probably going about this in a very complicated way but i need a solution to the Z32 lower mount problem. thanks

[crackler]

I have no idea on that one. BTW, the rears aren't struts, they are dampers (Dampners?[shocks]), don't know if that makes a difference in your search, or if I am just being anal retentive.

Whats the difference on the lower mount from an s13, to a z32?I would be cvarefull about running z32 shocks on an s13, I would guess that they are valved diffrent. Not sure if that would hurt the performance or not.

I couldn't find anything from bilstein for the 240sx.

Have you checked to see if the Koni OTS rears can be modified for external adjustable? Probably wouldn't be worth the price/hassle, if it can even be done. Here is a list of Koni rebuilders that I know of. And I am not recommending any of them, other than Koni due to "stories" I have heard about a couple of these companies. I am just posting the company's that rebuild Koni's, use at your own risk.http://www.propartsusa.net/http://www.t ... vices.html

The KYB's are externally adjustable.

You might try contacting Koni, or Bilstein to see if they know of a another shock they offer for a different car that uses the same mount and has the same or similar valving, and are the same length. Because that is basically all you need, if I'm not mistaken, is a shock that is the same dimensions, that mounts the same way, that has the same valving, but is externally adjustable. But I would guess if Koni or Bilstein made such a shock they would sell it for the 240 as well as what ever make/model it fits. Again, none of these custom application would probably be worth the time/money/hassle. But due to the generic style mount the rear uses, there might be another shock made for a different car that *could* work. I am not advocating nor suggesting you do this, I am merely throwing out some ideas. Do this at your own risk. I race with a guy who looked into this that ran a Chevy Colorado, and he couldn't find any sport shocks that where made for his truck, I don't remember if he actually would up running shocks off of another vehicle or not. Or you could *GASP* buy some Tiens/megan/ksports/insert JDM coil-over here.

[crackler]

no real conformation for you, but the stock springs are really really big (diameter wise) and most after market ones are much smaller... I haven't ever really looked at the ground control but I would guess the diameter would likely be less then stock by a few inches.

Here are some pics of the GC spring size vs the oem springs. These are off of my Miata, but It should give you an idea of the difference in size. The 240 oem springs are huge too, compaired to a 2.5ID spring.

[AceInhole]

For rear inserts you would need a custom housing. Veilside180sx from NissanRoadRacing.com does custom housings for the S13 and S14, which accept Koni 8610's (single adjustable) or 8611's (double adjustable) that are externally adjustable. The upper pin mounts on each are 14mm, so you'll need upper perches that accept at least a 14mm mount. The thread size will be the same up front as stock, so Tein or even Deluboz (Ebay) camber plates should work. I added an 18mm to 14mm reducer bushing (McMaster.com) for my Deluboz plates. In the rear I have Tein upper mounts with the same reducer bushing as up front.

For camber up front, I'm only running about 3.5 deg (±0.2° surface dependant). I'm not sure if I'm stiffer up front than Rhoades was, though.

Street Modified requires a bit of creative thinking, but for the most part a 240sx with simple, well thought out mods will do well.

[Cone Junky]

Street Modified requires a bit of creative thinking, but for the most part a 240sx with simple, well thought out mods will do well.

I hope so. I like SM because I don't have much limitations for building up my car for the street or HPDEs I like to attend. I don't have the time or money to be in a competitive class, so SM is fun for an almost "no holds barred" vehicle setup that is still street legal.

[crackler]

For rear inserts you would need a custom housing. Veilside180sx from NissanRoadRacing.com does custom housings for the S13 and S14, which accept Koni 8610's (single adjustable) or 8611's (double adjustable) that are externally adjustable. The upper pin mounts on each are 14mm, so you'll need upper perches that accept at least a 14mm mount. The thread size will be the same up front as stock, so Tein or even Deluboz (Ebay) camber plates should work. I added an 18mm to 14mm reducer bushing (McMaster.com) for my Deluboz plates. In the rear I have Tein upper mounts with the same reducer bushing as up front.

For camber up front, I'm only running about 3.5 deg (±0.2° surface dependant). I'm not sure if I'm stiffer up front than Rhoades was, though.

Street Modified requires a bit of creative thinking, but for the most part a 240sx with simple, well thought out mods will do well.

That is a much better idea than any of mine.

[Cone Junky]

Back on the coilover subject, any body use the Powered by Max Coilovers?I was at their shop yesterday and was impressed with the appearance of quality. They also have them valved specifically for thier 10/8kg springs used. These sound like they are sprung and valved right in between the Megan street and track coilovers.Also, the guys running the place are definitely familiar with building track cars. Although they seem to be geared towards drift, they're definitely into road racing too.

[crackler]

Never heard of them. Are they using their own in house dampers, or are they useing some one else's with custom valving?

[Cone Junky]

They sure made it seem like they build them themselves.

http://www.poweredbymax.net

[Anthonysflying]

Bump for a great post about coilovers, camber, and suspension setup

[Touge_Drifter]

If I could do coilovers over again, I would get the tanabe seven! AWESOME!!!!If money is an issue stance GN+ pro!