Hottest Q EVAR. PICS of AGM's Q

[elwesso]

So the other day I sent an email to AGM regarding some header information and I hit the jackpot... He sent me 17 pics of his Q. w00000t!

The mods as far as I know are some 19" wheels, brembo brakes, full custom exhuast, custom headers, centrifugal supercharger, impul body kit, and some other things. This Q has got to be one of the best in the world! Im going to link a few pics and the rest are located below.

Full Directory

[gniknave]

I'm so damn jealous!!! That is definitely one of the best if not the best looking Q I've ever seen.

[DominickJ30]

In terms of exterior its not that great. Nice wheels and the blower is cool too. What type are you gettin Wes? Is it centrifugal or roots?

[elwesso]

I must say im not a fan of the purple color, but damn, that impul kit is perfect. It certainly takes some person that is not right in the head to spend this money on a Q45...!!

My SC setup willbe a roots..

[maxnix]

Like the purple, but the body kit looks like a kit...an afterthought.

See if he can send you a shot of the passenger bank header. It is interesting that he was able to go down on the driver's side, unlike Rob's set-up.

Who's going to tell him his front tires are way under OEM specification?
Modified by maxnix at 12:33 PM 6/4/2005

[DominickJ30]

My SC setup willbe a roots..

I was hoping youd say that.

[Black95Q]

That is definately hot! I am a big fan of the impul kit... I don't like any of the other q45 kits.

Did you happen to get any technical specs?

[Jeff Williams]

I love, no, I want, no, I NEED that Impul front bumper!

That rear spoiler looks like a 2000 I30t spoiler.

Very clean supercharger install. That is the one I would buy. Keep the spider intake!

[DAEDALUS]

Where is the MAF in that piping? I'm impressed he kept the charcoal cannister.

[elwesso]

He's using a Motul ECU, so he doesnt use the MAF anymore.... This way he can individually tune things!!

The rear spoiler is actually the impul spoiler or so im told. I still prefer the Q45t spoiler but this is something different and still looks nice....

That is definately hot! I am a big fan of the impul kit... I don't like any of the other q45 kits.

Did you happen to get any technical specs?

What kind of specs are you looking for???

Like the purple, but the body kit looks like a kit...an afterthought.

See if he can send you a shot of the passenger bank header. It is interesting that he was able to go down on the driver's side, unlike Rob's set-up.

Who's going to tell him his front tires are way under OEM specification?

Modified by maxnix at 12:33 PM 6/4/2005

If you odnt like the impul kit then you wont like anything. The impul kit was designed to actually have function and form...

I knew youd say something about the tires...

Heres some pics of the headers

USDM drivers side

USDM passenger side

If we can get some designs, which he said he might be able to provide, we could just apply the bends on the opposite sides...

Interesting how they differ with Robs headers...

[DAEDALUS]

He's using a Motul ECU, so he doesnt use the MAF anymore.... This way he can individually tune things!!

So the Motul (Motec?) ECU doesn't need a MAF/MAP input? That's a pretty important parameter no matter what brand of ECU you're using. How does the ECU know how much fuel to give without knowing how much air is flowing? The O2 sensor doesn't give answers quick enough, even the wideband ones. TPS is nowhere near accurate enough, and doesn't compensate for altitude changes.

[PalmerWMD]

Awesome pics of an awesome car!!!

Fred...

[Jeff Williams]

The long tube header design is much better, for high rpm. The "tri-y" design helpd scavenge air better as well. Rob's is a "four-in-one" design. Both are WAY better than stock.

Definitely and I30t spoiler. Nothing like the Impul spoiler. I almost bought one off of ebay, for Layla.

[elwesso]

Hmm, Ryan said it was an impul spoiler...

Robert, I wish I could answer your question but im not sure. Im thinking along the same lines as you unless theres some other MAF sensor somewhere... Again im not sure... I know hes not using one because i read his posts.. hell theres only like 200 of em, so you can just bust em out real quick....

Jeff... Do you think AGMs headers would outperform robs???

[pdqwrx]

Is that super charger a kit we can buy? If not do we know the specs so we could reproduce it.

[maxnix]

Thanks for the header pictures. I always thought a 4-2-1 header would work better than a 4-1. Wonder if he has a jig?

The Impul kit has a nice shape, but when all is said and done, it still looks like an added-on kit with too many pieces and cut lines. The front is fine, but the rest looks tacked-on and not well integrated with the body. Hard to beat the natural rolled under the body sills of the G50.

I am with Jeff. I saw that exact same spoiler on a Maxima this evening. Never have understood the function of a rear spoiler on a FWD car. The OEM spoiler may not be dramatic, but it fits correctly and performs a function.

Two clicks too low on the front tires is not conducive to high speed driving confidence.

The intercooled Rootes set-up, with the necessary internal and external modifications would be much preferred. Anyone got $20K-$30K of extra cash to dedicate to get it right?

Oh, and the stainless exhaust work is immaculate and along with the headers is the most impressive modification after the Brembos.

[Jeff Williams]

Hmm, Ryan said it was an impul spoiler...

Robert, I wish I could answer your question but im not sure. Im thinking along the same lines as you unless theres some other MAF sensor somewhere... Again im not sure... I know hes not using one because i read his posts.. hell theres only like 200 of em, so you can just bust em out real quick....

Jeff... Do you think AGMs headers would outperform robs???

It could be that Impul copied the OEM spoiler for the I30.

Yes, on top-end performance, the tri-y design usually outperforms a four-in-one design. It also is a louder sound.

I love his exhaust work, but prefer an "x" pipe design to the "H' pipe design. It too lends well to scavenging and reduces backpressure.

For street use, I would stick with Rob's shortie headers, and smaller exhaust, about a 2.25" back to the resonators. If you are going to add forced induction, the freer flowing design of AGM's headers, and a 2.5" to 3" exhaust would be better. Then you want a higher stall converter, to get that supercharger in the power range sooner.

The best thing to do is build both kinds of headers and exhaust, then do some testing. I think that is what most companies like STILLEN do. It's too bad they didn't spend the extra time and money working on a header design.

With Rob's and AGM's pictures and a car for fitment, a good welder shoud be able to replicate them much cheaper.

[maxnix]

It is not the Impul spoiler.

[Black95Q]

What kind of specs are you looking for???

Just basic stuff like rwhp and what kind of boost does he run on it or if it has any other kind of internal engine work.

Robert, I wish I could answer your question but im not sure. Im thinking along the same lines as you unless theres some other MAF sensor somewhere... Again im not sure... I know hes not using one because i read his posts..

Couldn't he just use a MAP sensor instead of the MAF with the stand-alone ECU?

[elwesso]

Is that super charger a kit we can buy? If not do we know the specs so we could reproduce it.

AGM has said MANY times that this is not necessarily the best way to go. There rae reasons he went with this kit, and if you read his posts, he said it would go with a rootes type like I am building (tentatively)

Thanks for the header pictures. I always thought a 4-2-1 header would work better than a 4-1. Wonder if he has a jig?

The Impul kit has a nice shape, but when all is said and done, it still looks like an added-on kit with too many pieces and cut lines. The front is fine, but the rest looks tacked-on and not well integrated with the body. Hard to beat the natural rolled under the body sills of the G50.

I am with Jeff. I saw that exact same spoiler on a Maxima this evening. Never have understood the function of a rear spoiler on a FWD car. The OEM spoiler may not be dramatic, but it fits correctly and performs a function.

Two clicks too low on the front tires is not conducive to high speed driving confidence.

The intercooled Rootes set-up, with the necessary internal and external modifications would be much preferred. Anyone got $20K-$30K of extra cash to dedicate to get it right?

Oh, and the stainless exhaust work is immaculate and along with the headers is the most impressive modification after the Brembos.

I will agree with most of what you said there Brian. I still have yet to find a body kit for the Q that looks like it was a factory option rather than stuck on... Probably the best that is out there but not my preference...

It wouldnt matter if he had a jig really because it would have to be remade for LHD anyway!!! He told me, that it would be BY FAR easiest to get some headers made here in the states...

Youd be surprised how much the OEM Q45t spoiler reduces drag... I dont remember the exact number but its SIGNIFICANT, especially considering it doesnt look like does much... Amazing what a little thought and engineering does!!

I dont think it would cost 20k to supercharge with the roots type correctly.. Depends on how much boost you want to run.. AGM was running like 9lbs and he said he just cant get it to hook up at all, even with big 275s in the rear... I think right now he's running 8lbs..

The way I see it, 6-8lbs gives you a TON of HP (more than youll ever need), and once you take it much past that (say above 10) you run into a huge hurdle of injectors, compression and so on.. I dont see anyreason why a stock VH cant handle 6-8 with EASE.. Just a level 10 with higher stall is all you need...

If i have headers made, id probably lean more toward AGMs design.....

Heres some other helpful links...

ECU he used: http://www.motec.com/home.htm

Place that built his headers:

http://www.exhaustdynamics.com.au/

This thread is a great read!

zerothread?id=29854

At 7lbs, he was pushing 450 CRANK HP! on his current setup..... and thats with NO intercooling, W/A injection, NUFFIN!!

His MOTEC ECU retails at about 4000!!! However, he was able to compensate for the richness the headers create and all that stuff..... I think if your into extracting every possible HP this is the way to go.. however with the headers in place and BOOST i wouldnt mind it running a little rich..

ANyone interested in this at ALL, the above thread is a NECESSARY read!!!

I think AGM took the best route, but not necessarily the most efficient route.. if your limiting your mods to the SC then the JWT boost map should be fine.....

[350zQ45a]

How the hell does the Impul kit not look OEM?

You notice how each piece of the kit has a curve on the end which fits perfectly with the other pieces?

This kit looks as OEM as the new M45 aero kit does.

It's not an Impul wing as I suspected earlier. The impul wing does not arch like that

[maxnix]

Thanks for the link to exhaust dynamics, but it seems to be down.

I was looking at my wife's FY33 today, and even stock, it really comes somewhat kitted from the factory, especially with the splash guards. Nice shapes, but too many cut lines on the flank.

I think the OEM V35 and Y50 aero kits are the best made, and the kit to body gasket, while somewhat emphasizing the components, also gives it a nice finished look.

One thing I think that really repulses me about after market "aerodynamic" kits (few are ever tested full scale in a wind tunnel), is that mounting them requires drilling holes in the body work, thus compromising one of the best double galvinization processes in the industry. I was quite appalled when I downloaded the installation instructions for Autocouture, a top flight aftermarket body kit maker. No way I would violate the integrity of my car the way they require for mounting figerglass and plastic panels. Folks, we are driving 10-15 year old cars and outside of the rust belt, corrosion is not a problem. How many other brands can say that? How many old American marques do you see that are not garage queens last in everyday traffic combat?

[SEBZX79]

Any links to where I can get that impul kit?

[elwesso]

Basically only in Japan..

Brian im in agreement with you... I think there are other things you could do to the Q (ok, so a LOT MORE OTHER things) before Id start thinking about a body kit... I also agree about driling holes in there.. I have about 4 spots of surface rust on my Q underneath, on the subframe (common) and stuff like that. However if i had a multi grand body kit, no way Id be driving it in the snow! I like sleepers, and if its got a body kit, people will know other things are done, except if your a ricer ... Whenveer you make something non OEM you draw attnetion to it. I think that a set of lowering springs, some clean 5 or 6 spoke 17s or 18s, some tint, and the Q45t spoiler is all you need to make it look real nice!!! Something that everything could appreciate of any age!

[maxnix]

http://www.impul.co.jp/product...5.htm

[Falkdesigns]

Awesome car, lot's of work. Not a fan of the wheels, or side skirts, and it could be lower. Still, with the right tires I bet it must be a blast. Generally I like Impul kits, but the side skirts don't look right to me.

[Q45Racing]

anyone interested in a body kits from japan I'm the man to see, but it is only on a special order / non cancellable/non refundable basis.... see the price on any japanese website and multiply that by .013 and that will be the cost which includes shipping from japan, customs, import tax and paperwork to california, then probably an extra 200-300 depending on location to ship to the east coast.

total transaction will take 3 to 6 weeks.

390,000 yen X .013 = $5070.00 plus any usa shipping and usa sales tax.

[Infinitiguy19]

Hey Wes do you still have any of these pictures of AGM's car because I lost the only one I had. Wllmoodom might like to seem them as well.

[elwesso]

I dont think so, but I will look. Just picture a light purple 94 with an I30 spoiler and some 19s.

[Infinitiguy19]

If I dig some more I can find some pictures of his AGM's Q but for now I have this: http://web.archive.org/web/200502130127 ... rabham.htm