HOT TO: Hardwire your radar detector to your Versa!

[CodeRed]

removed it due to unsafe installation.
Modified by CodeRed at 2:54 PM 2/27/2007

[Clipsed]

Boy I hope that your Versa does not short out with that wiring job. You should have looked at my Fog Light install to figure out how to do this. You are asking for trouble RED. I will leave this matter alone. I would not recommend this hardwire tut to anyone, as it is not a very well done one.

[CodeRed]

Boy I hope that your Versa does not short out with that wiring job. You should have looked at my Fog Light install to figure out how to do this. You are asking for trouble RED. I will leave this matter alone. I would not recommend this hardwire tut to anyone, as it is not a very well done one.

Well, rather then being a smartass in my other post asking how to 'properly' do it mabey it would be up to your par.

[proxim2020]

Boy I hope that your Versa does not short out with that wiring job. You should have looked at my Fog Light install to figure out how to do this. You are asking for trouble RED. I will leave this matter alone. I would not recommend this hardwire tut to anyone, as it is not a very well done one.

Please explain. You may have a very valid point.

Note to everyone: As with all other write ups, you assume all risks involve when performing any tasks yourself. If you're not sure what you're doing, please consult a professional.

[CodeRed]

Please explain. You may have a very valid point.

Note to everyone: As with all other write ups, you assume all risks involve when performing any tasks yourself. If you're not sure what you're doing, please consult a professional.

please tell me the right way so i know how to do it...would it involve an add a fuse mini?

[Clipsed]

Not trying to be a smartass, I was giving some sound advice to someone that has never done any type of wiring before. If you have seen some of the things I have, you would understand. I sell people stereo equipment, and they either install it themselves or have their buddy do it, 90% of the time they call me back to say things are F***ed up and if I can fix it. By then I charge them for diagnostics, un-installation, new wires, installation, and sometimes new equipment when they messed up their old stuff due to improper installation. That is why this whole time I have been telling you to take it to a shop, have someone do it right who has insurance if anything happens, because if not you are up s**t creek without a paddle on your own with getting warranty repair if you don't end up voiding the warranty with the install. All I am saying is know what you are doing. As soon as I get out of High School I plan on getting my certification. I have been doing these things for a couple years now and know a thing or two, but also need to learn a thing or two still. Not saying I am the most knowledgable person to speak to on this matter, but I do know most of what I am saying and how to do things properly and most importantly SAFELY! I had told you how to do it, but said I was giving the info at your own risk, I was not going to be held responsible for any damages that may happen due to YOUR installation. I will take pics of my install right now and post what that SHOULD have looked like. Sorry if you took what I said wrong, but I am just trying to save your *** from Nissan.

[Clipsed]

Very nicely said Proxim, as these write-ups are to SHOW what to do, ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE there are some that are wrong, and by doing some of the things they say to do, can cause great damage. I hope that everyone understands that.

[CodeRed]

Very nicely said Proxim, as these write-ups are to SHOW what to do, ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE there are some that are wrong, and by doing some of the things they say to do, can cause great damage. I hope that everyone understands that.

please. log on and and show me the wight way to do it...

[Clipsed]

You should use a mini fuse splitter and fuse appropriately, I am sure that radar draws no more than 5 or 7.5 amps. This is what a good install looks like, nice, clean, proper. All wires should be electrical taped to double protect them, and wrapped and neatly zip-tied out of site. Compare your picture to my picture, and it is obvious what the better job is. All I am saying is if you plan on doing these things, ask and I will be more than happy to help you, I just want you to be careful and assume liability. The reason I was hesitant about giving you the info last time is due to the past time I gave you advice you blew it out the window. But if you need help with wiring or customizing, or w/e, I will help you out to the best of my ability. This also applies to anyone else on this forum who would like help with something, if I can help you I will, if not I will give you suggestions, or say I can not help you.

Here are the pics.





Notice that the wires are wrapped and get tucked away (which can't be seen in the pic, but are)

can i wire it to the fuse i was using before?

You can use any fuse without a problem, but I decided to use that one. I wouldn't use any safety fuse though i.e. air bag, abs, park lights, etc.

[proxim2020]

Good info Clipsed. You definitely know a heck of a lot more about wiring than I do. Clipsed's response wasn't some "In Your Face" posting, but sound advice. I stress advice. Let's let our cool heads prevail.

[Cowboys Fan 87]

You should use a mini fuse splitter and fuse appropriately

Nice....looks a LOT better than my mess. I'll have to find one of those. Get it auto parts or electrical store?

[Clipsed]

not to sure if an electrical store will have it since it is a 12volt part, but autozone, pepboys, and other auto part stores should have it. Thanks for the compliment Proxim!!!

[7speed]

I'll add my compliments to Clipsed too. That looks really slick. All I've ever done is replace a H/U, and it was almost plug-and-play.

And CodeRed, I hope nothing is permanently damaged. I give you props for trying. That's how most people learn. One of my favorite lines from Batman Begins (paraphrased):

"Why do we fall down?"

"So we can pick ourselves up again."

Research stuff on the web and give it another shot.

[Clipsed]

Good info Clipsed. You definitely know a heck of a lot more about wiring than I do. Clipsed's response wasn't some "In Your Face" posting, but sound advice. I stress advice. Let's let our cool heads prevail.

Didn't really get to respond earlier as I was in a rush, I stopped in the house checked the board and took off. But thanks a lot Proxim, it is nice to know that I am helping out. I know I am a young kid, but I do a lot of work on cars involving wiring so I know my stuff I honestly was not trying to say anything in a negative way in any sense, and CodeRed I hope you did not take it that way. Some dealers will void warranty for ANY modification, others only if something fails due to what was installed. I am only trying to HELP out others by doing a nice clean install and a proper one at that, as the dealer will give you less of a hassle and will have a harder time trying to blame you for things. I have taken my Versa in for service about 5 times already for minor things and an oil change, and everytime I go in somebody compliments me on my car and how nice and clean the install is. Except for my half finished fiberglass sub box which will get finished in the next week or two now that I have time.

If you don't give the dealer a reason to suspect something that you installed caused a problem, they have no way of blaming you, and if they do and you know your install has not caused the problem, whatever it may be, then ask them nicely to provide you with evidence of your install causing the problem. If all your wires are electrical tape wrapped, zip tied, and all installed nicely and neatly, it is HARDER for them to do this, but depending on the situation, they could be right. By taking these extra steps and about an hour longer on an install you can fool them into thinking it was done by a professional and then they more than likely will not blame you for a problem.

As I said if anyone ever needs help with wiring anything, feel free to ask and I will help you to the best of my ability. If I am not able to help you I know people that will and I can ask them and give you a response. Either way I am a very intelligent 17yo and can be very helpful. When I get around I will take some pictures of my car and the install of the wires and all so that everyone can see how nice, clean, and neat everything is. After I finish that fiberglass box haha.

Once again Proxim thank you for your compliment, and I am glad to be apart of this board, and a help to anyone that needs it.

[Clipsed]

I'll add my compliments to Clipsed too. That looks really slick. All I've ever done is replace a H/U, and it was almost plug-and-play.

And CodeRed, I hope nothing is permanently damaged. I give you props for trying. That's how most people learn. One of my favorite lines from Batman Begins (paraphrased):

"Why do we fall down?"

"So we can pick ourselves up again."

Research stuff on the web and give it another shot.

I like that quote haha!

Thank you 7 speed.

Yea that is exactly how I started learning at 15, by hanging around my mickey mouse uncle, and took what I learned and did it better. I researched on the internet, learned about 12V, studied some stuff and I am at where I am now. I want to get a hold of some of the MECP books and study guides to learn more about that before I go to get certified after High School. If you lived around CodeRed I would be more than happy to have you hang around me to learn some of the tricks of the trade, but your on the opposite side of the states! lol.

I just want to make it clear to everyone here that we all have a new car with warranty. I'm not saying don't modify it, but do it with care and caution. I don't want to see any of us post a thread saying we got screwed by the dealer due to a warranty void.
Modified by Clipsed at 11:25 PM 2/27/2007

[proxim2020]

CodeRed: I applaud for your trying. We can not move forward in modification arena unless we have people willing to do what you've done. Although there's a safer way of doing it, I still appreciate the work that you've already done.

Clipsed: Yes you are young, but you are way ahead of the game. You age doesn't mean anything, but your knowledge does. Take it from a person who's in the same boat, just in a different industry. Being very young and having amount of knowledge you have in the principal, you'll go very far if you keep up with it. If you were to leave HS and go to a trade school, there's a good chance that you would be able to teach some of the basic courses.

You both (and a few other pioneers) are valuable commodities to our community and I encourage you guys to keep up the good work.

[Clipsed]

lol funny you should say that about going straight to trade school, because that was what I was thinking about doing as soon as I turn 18, but my parents are telling me to get my diploma and worry about that later, which they are right, but if I graduate since my dad just took over a buisness, he might help me to start my own, but only if I get my diploma! Well I have to now, because he is the one that signed for the V and that was part of our agreement

Anywho I do plan on keeping up the work, I hope to start to do some studying one MECP courses and get a better feel for some of the newer electronics in newer cars. You really can't use test lights on cars anymore, because they could deploy your air bags if you touch something wrong! That is why I say do it, but research, research, ask, ask, ASK, oh and ask again until you feel confident enough to perform the task. Try not to get into something and find out that something went wrong, now you have a double, or even a triple or more whammy in fixing it. Always think of things in this way.

"Can I really do this myself, and do it properly and safely? Will I actually be saving money by doing this myself, or end up spending 2x-10x as much in the long run by having to alter it, repair it, or etc.?"

If you don't feel confident answering those two questions, LEAVE IT ALONE. Have it done by somebody who knows what they are doing, that way if something does go wrong, they are liable and responsible to fix it. Just make sure if you do take it somewhere to read the fine print, as they may say they limit or have no liability, or in the worst case scenario NO INSURANCE!

The installs I do as of now are only for friends and family so it is a side job for me until I get insured and certified. I make sure my clients understand that I am a minor and I limit my liability of my work, and most of all express to them that if the install is tweaked, tampered, or altered, the warranty I offer is then voided, as I do provide them with a warranty on equipment and install.

[7speed]

I make sure my clients understand that I am a minor and I limit my liability of my work, and most of all express to them that if the install is tweaked, tampered, or altered, the warranty I offer is then voided, as I do provide them with a warranty on equipment and install.

So long as you keep that kind of business ettiquette and open communication about warranties and liabilities, you will be very successful. I would just add that verbal agreements can only go so far, so get stuff in writing.

[Clipsed]

very true on the verbal agreement, because those don't stand up in court.

[Clipsed]

Using my stereo system as an example, try to keep your wires wrapped as best possible, and wire runs nice, clean, and neat.

























If you notice in the picture of the din opening with the wires, it is not the best thing to tape up all these connections, as they are not as permanent as others are. So what I do is tape the places where two wires join together, or a wire and a crimp connection are made. This helps to give the connection a lil extra strength. The RCA's get tape around them so as not to touch metal and ground out. Then it is all zip tied, and neatly tucked away.

[marleyfan]

Clipsed, you seem like a bright and talented kid. You do great work. I wish some of the kids in my class had your apparent work ethic. Unforntunately sometimes your youth shows up in what can be construed as a bit of an attitude. Guess that comes with youth. I had an attitude when I was younger too. Still do a bit I guess. But once I look past the occasional snide remark here and there you seem like a pretty together kid. Wish you lived around here so you could do all the work on my V that I have no idea how to do. Pretty sure that if I tried to do any kind of wiring on my V I'd end up frying everything. Keep up the good work and thanks for helping the electronically challenged like me.

[Clipsed]

lol thanks marleyfan, yea I do admit I have an attitude and a tendency to prove myself, which unfortuanately comes from my dad, he ALWAYS has to be right, and that rubbed off onto me. Yea I do work at my best, and when I can't do something I rarely give up on trying to figure out how to do something. I am waiting for the admins to approve E V's request to have my custom tag as Customization & Electronics, but it is taking a while. If you ever have some questions about how to wire sumthin up, feel free to ask away . . .

[proxim2020]

I am waiting for the admins to approve E V's request to have my custom tag as Customization & Electronics, but it is taking a while.

Have you looked at your name lately? It's been there for about 2 days now

[Clipsed]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm an idiot! HAHAHAHA thx Proxim wow don't I feel like the dumb one!