Hot Shot vs. Pace Setter

[Sleeper s13]

I have recently become interested in getting a header after i saw the results of some on a 92' prelude. When i seach i am comming up with two names; pace setter and hot shot. the hot shots are more expensive but look nicer. However on a college budget i need something under $300 that will fit and doesnt need constant adjustment. Pac setter has some for a little over two hundred with the coating but the affordable price seems a little suspiciouse. I need some assurance about the pace setters or to start saving for some hot shots.

[Structure240sx]

Many bad things have been said about pace setters dont waste ur money. i have a hotshot and love it. new i paid 320 shipped from enjuku racing. im pullin it out this weekend and selling it if ur interested its only 3 months old.

[JNM240]

I have the plain steel pacesetter and i must say i wasted my money. It came to me painted black, but that all burned off the first 10 minutes of the car running, so now it is bare rusting steel. As for fit, it used to rattle big time against the underbody, until i took my car to a muffler shop and he charged me nothing to bang in the floor panel it was rattling againts. As for performance, i didnt see much if any. Plus i hate the fact that the O2 sensor is mounted only on the #2 cylinder, so the ECU gets only info from how #2 is running. I wouldve made the O2 sensor downstream a little more, get at least a combination of 2 cylinders to get data from. I wish i had spent the extra money to get the HotShot. But now im broke and trying to finish my car, so its out of the question.

[Sleeper s13]

Many bad things have been said about pace setters dont waste ur money. i have a hotshot and love it. new i paid 320 shipped from enjuku racing. im pullin it out this weekend and selling it if ur interested its only 3 months old.

I would be but i have a 92 and they probably wouldnt fit. thanx for the heads up though

[eastcoastchaos]

i have a pace setter that i got for like 140 something. it was hell to get in and the paint does flake off pretty quickly. its been in for a few mounths with out any problems. for about half the price of the hotshot i think it is a good deal. have a friend help you install the header either way you go.later

[Drift Machine]

I have my Hot Shot Header sitting next to me in my room, waiting for my rebuild to be done on my old engine before it gets used. But the build quality of it appears to be extremely welll.

[S-14boy]

Hey Structure240 how much do u want for the headers??????

[daniel240]

whatever you do dont get the pacesetter. get either hotshot or greddy. i have a hotshot and i love it. it was very easy to install. everything lined up perfectly and i have had it for almost a year now and have had no problems, and it still looks brand new.

[I am Technoman]

Nissan sells the Hotshot header in their Motors sports catalog or did. That should tell you something.

[Rownan]

I have hotshot and it's great.

Pacesetter is horrible, their products rust horribly. Don't be fooled by the black coating, don't mistake it for powdercoating I think it's paint in a can.

As I said in another thread, you get what you pay for in this game.

http://www.projectaspec.com

[hotshot240sx]

hotshot...comp headers...smoggable....what can i say....gotta go HS buddy...

[rtsol]

i have the new style hot shot one piece header for sale. its in real nice condition. ill let i tgo for $230 shipped.

[GELLIS2586]

what year is that header for if its 97-98 ill buy it

[rtsol]

its for the S13 ka24de. it works with the s14 also. so no its not "for" your car but it will work.

[whiterps13]

i have the pacesetter (was on car when i bought) and it is rusted bad. i am thinking about upgrading to the hotshot though. is the performance worth it or is it just looks?

[raging panda]

ive read a lot of the older posts about the pacesetter header, and there were some very satisfied people depending on what you are looking for. The HS is a very good piece from what i have read, but way way way overpriced. For you guys witht the pacesetter with the paint that comes off, its supposed to. The black paint is only there to protect it for storing and shipping needs. What you should have done is to get it either painted with high temp paint or some kind of coating. That supposed to prevent it from rusting. For half the price of the HS, I wouldn't mind having to put some paint to it. I think that's what i'm going to do if i can't find a good t3 turbo soon. Now I don't know what to tell you about the performace problems or the fitment problems, but like I said, for half the price.

[flaco mariscal]

Whats the difference between the S13 and S14 Hotshot header?Im looking for some headers for my Frontier, which header will be better?

[240convertedme41]

Why hasnt anyone done a dyno test between h.s and pacesetter? That way we could settle this the right way. Hmm maybe something for me to think about . Anyway I have some experience with pacesetter on other cars. True the black paint comes off right away and u smell it burn off , but its not high temp paint or anything as mentioned b4. As far as fitment the cars i worked with seem to be ok. Performance was good and the exhaust definitely qualified for a sleeper. My friend put one on his zx2 and nobody believed him that he had exhaust. Imagine if they didnt paint the tip yellow lol. I think if you wanna save money pacesetter would not be bad. If you have the money to blow, go for the hot shot. Keep in mind that hot shot header is about $330ish.. and u can get a pacesetter header and catback exhaust for $360ish.. hehe

[raging panda]

I don't care that much about performance if that little 1-2 hp cost me another 200 bux. I think that is a rip off. Buy a pacesetter, give it some high temp paint. Thats 180+5 = 185. Much better than 330. If it doesn't fit, well then it does suck, but I want to hear how many people said it doesn't fit, people that actually have it.

[jrc90240sx]

I have the pace setters on my car right now. i just needed a cheap header because the original down pipe was shot. i picked up the headers for like 160, then picked up some header heat rap (Witch i highly recomend) then some high temp rap paint. they look fine and do there job. fit was a little off but that could be in part to the nismo monts also. anyway for 180 spent, i am happy with it. when i get a turbo i will be geting ride of them anyway so i didnt want to spend a ton.

plus the header heat rap rocks. the underhood temps have to be 20-40 degress lower. i can drive around at night with snow on my hood and it dosent melt the snow.

[duckman240sx]

well as for me im also looking but im thinking of pacesetter becuz i like 2.5 primary over 2.25, at least thats what i heard bout the hs that its only 2.25, and i also like the straight lines of the header seems to flow more, but for people who r saying that 330 shiped for a header is high go search sum big players in the honda world those headers cheap are like 500 at least for a good power gone.

[auto180sx]

hotshots, nothing but good things ive heard and seen for that matter. plus its been proven on the best hp gain. do it right the first time, and get a hot shots.:ylsuper

[Rev_D21]

PaceSetter doesn't make anything for the Altima KA24DE so I am gonna say HotShot all the way!

[raging panda]

The hotshot has been proven to make more horsepower? Do you know how much more? Is it like 5-8hp more, because if not, it's not worth the extra 200~ dollars.

[shdfrk]

pacesetter is the better header for the ka at the moment i believeit has the best design for the most air flow it just aint shiny so the people who know nothing think its better plus the obx header is exactly the same quality and design as the hotshot header for half the price very well constructed so yea go waste your funds on hotshot

[deviousKA]

I agree with shdfrk, the pacesetter flows really well especially up high with its 4-1 design and close to equal length primaries. I like the ka24e obx design and you cant beat it for the price, the obx de header i would have to see in person to comment. The hoshot is not worth the money compared to pacesetter and obx.

[Bandit240]

I dont see why everyone says pacesetter is ****ty. I bought a pacesetter ehaust system around 1.5 years ago for $213 shipped. Its still there not rusty and sounds fine. Im thinking of buying a header from them soon.

[0range_240]

I am looking at getting a set of used pacesetters, only were on the previous car for a couple months, and have been re-coated with high-temp paint, and I found them for cheap so I am definitely going to go with the pacesetters, and I have my reasons too

1) I have a SOHC, and the 4-1 design will help my top end more than the hotshots Tri-Y

2) besides the paint coming off (which is supposed to happen if im not mistaken) pacesetters dont have any complaints besides the usual fitment issues but hotshot gets complaints about that too

3) I think alot of people who think hotshots are great and pacesetters are garbage, are just basing this on something they read earlier, maybe a post saying they rust (again supposed to happen ppl) ... if you read alot of peoples sigs, most of them that say pacesetter suck or hotshot kick a$$ dont even have a header, but are just going with the general consensus.

4) Im not going to fork out $360 US (inc shipping, i live in CAN) for a header just because some guys best friends dog told him they were the best thing since sliced bread. Instead I think I'll think for myself, research until im confident and then decide on what to buy based on what *I* need

[sohc90adel]

this argument is so funny to me, yes i have the pacesetter headers and the fitment coul;d have been better but after a few minor adjustment the thing slipped on. 140 bucks shipped to my door. cant beat that. i would take minor adjustments rather than paying 300 for headers people. they are pipes! the diffrence in hp is gonna be so minimal for any kind of header. if you want the shine get the obx. you can get a a whole mandrel bent exhaust with high flow cat and header for 350 if you thought about it. Getting 300 dollar header 500 dollar exhaust does not make you car go any faster than a cheap exhaust. its just pipes that let air go through... dont let the fancy corporations get u guys.

[sammy]

I have the pacesetter installed on my 89 fastback.......all it needed was a little adjustment and fit great......i'm about to pull it off, beadblast it and high temp coat it black,

i agree with sohc90adel, after the header install i drove to the exhaust shop and had a 2.25 inch exhaust installed with a thrush turbo muffler.....it breathes waaaaaaaayyyyy better......the only downside was the muffler, which will be replaced soon (sounds like a pissed off weedeater on the highway)