Wha-powwww! got the starter out tonight after work. wow, it was looking grim last night man...needin a tow and what not...
thought id give it another shot, because i got a lot of movement out of it yesterday, finally got the connections off the solenoid, then solenoid off the starter, (seemed like a bad mistake at the time, when that spring popped off, but i thought it would buy me the clearance i would need.) the thing was dead anyway, so i wasnt really worried about messin it up. sadly, it was not enough...still couldnt twist it out. but then i got lucky on a pathfinder reply
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_re ... Pathfinder
this had some small details that made it happen. it turns out the heat shield is screwed onto the starter body, with three tiny philips head screws. really lame gettin them off with the starter loose, but i didnt even know they were there with all the gunk...heat shield off it pulled right out!
i did
not need to drop the cross-member, as the wiki suggested. i
did have to remove the oil filter and the passenger wheel. Crucial! so the starter is dropped off, waiting to be rebuilt. since im obviously not going anywhere, im drinkin becks and crown royal tonight! watching Balls of Fury...
ive got to think that putting the new one in cant be as bad as taking it out. im sure its possible, but im focused on saving a pile of money with this recent success...
again, any further input would be great. later