Hmm. . . FACK, I need to see pictures of how it looks on a 240. My S14 currently has Kouki skirts, and Zenki front lip. I think it might look good (since Zenki S14's look amazing with deep dish wheels).Razi wrote:Meh, it's gonna look bad on your stock bodied S14.
Even with aero it might not look as good as other wheels.
Yea I know. The rears will definitely need a minor roll, i'm not too sure about the fronts though. And yes, I already have coilovers, and RUCA's, so that's covered.EnjoiNismo wrote:Hell yeah i'd get those, you will at least need a roll/coilovers/ruca's to make it decent though.
I love those rims.
Well to be honest with you, I personally think it looks great on modified 240's. All of the pictures i've posted are of 240's slammed on them (and they're not even the same wheels). Also, they have aftermarket bumpers etc.jrbump wrote:you have already decided you like them and now you are just looking for people to reaffirm your choice.
VIP style (and the worst of the VIP style wheels) do not belong on an S Chassis, unless you are just looking to hardpark. In that case, they look GREAT.
StryfeS13 wrote:Those wheels are so baller. Just buy them.
pj wrote:why are you listening to these people. buy the wheels now.
Very well said.simmode1 wrote:StryfeS13 wrote:Those wheels are so baller. Just buy them.pj wrote:why are you listening to these people. buy the wheels now.
They look great (for used wheels). They're proper sizes. They come with tires. No brainer. Just get your stance dailed in and the naysayers will eat their words.
says who? i did it and so have tons of other guys to great result. its not even as if it's some new concept, option magazine was doing it back in the mid 90's, granted the level of 'flushness" and offsets were not quite what they are today but thats a given.infiniti_lineup wrote:VIP WHEELS DO NOT BELONG ON A 240SX
hahaha WHO? ...i can't see you down there..next to the anthill...from way up here...on top of my mountain of awesomeness...sippin grape coolaid with odin...conversing on how cool vip wheels are on s chassis. doing this> everytime i read one of your posts.infiniti_lineup wrote: Me
Whats the point of making more power when you can't put any of it to the ground because your VIP stance requires you to have 7 million degrees of negative camber in the rear so you can clear your fenders with your 10 inch wide tires, of which only the innermost two inches actually touch the road. I mean to each his own but still, seems we're going backwards in our quest for performance here.pj wrote:says who? i did it and so have tons of other guys to great result. its not even as if it's some new concept, option magazine was doing it back in the mid 90's, granted the level of 'flushness" and offsets were not quite what they are today but thats a given.infiniti_lineup wrote:VIP WHEELS DO NOT BELONG ON A 240SX
i say they do belong, of course i'll also say to each his own. they look good, have great offsets and diameter. they're heavy but theres a nice answer to that problem : make more horsepower.
wheels to wide? make more power
wheels to heavy? make more power.
in the end it's his decision, and if i had the money, i'd buy them out from under him in a second right now.
they would be good for my plans, slammed on Dmax coils with supermade aero + these wheels would be dooope
not everyone is attempting to build a track car or time attack or drag car but i see your point that youve made.SX APPEAL wrote: Whats the point of making more power when you can't put any of it to the ground because your VIP stance requires you to have 7 million degrees of negative camber in the rear so you can clear your fenders with your 10 inch wide tires, of which only the innermost two inches actually touch the road. I mean to each his own but still, seems we're going backwards in our quest for performance here.
ok maybe not 7 million But I've definitely seen 7-8 degrees of negative camber on some of these VIP S chassis and I think it looks ridiculous. I mean didn't we all make fun of the honda guys in high school because they put huge whale tail wings and outlandish body kits (parts that have no performance benefit at all, just look cool) calling them stupid ricers and what not and now we go and do the same thing to our 240's? Putting huge rims and insane alignments on these cars that look cool but totally spoil the performance and handling, how is that any different?pj wrote: not everyone is attempting to build a track car or time atttack or drag car but i see your point that youve made.
ive never seen 7 million degrees of neg camber but it sounds crazy!
no but seriously, the wheels in question wont be THAT bad and if they were, i'd use overfenders...problem solved.
plus near everything made for these cars is adjustable now, so you can roll that insane stance all day then raise and adjust camber whenever you need to to some extent.
so my answer is adjustable suspension and overfenders, decent tires...power just got to the ground bro
plus ive been having fun with infinity lineup
lol how did i know you were going to resort to that.infiniti_lineup wrote:
lol man i hear ya, but god i never thought that stuff was cool. i was more spoon-ish when it came to the honda thing way back when.SX APPEAL wrote: they put huge whale tail wings and outlandish body kits
I hope you're joking. The wheels in question are 18x9+18 in the front and 18x10+11 in the rear. Those are great and modest sizes. Not too extreme at all. If he wanted to, he could run 235 tires in the front and 255's in the rear without needing much negative camber at all... like 2 or 3 degrees with a roll.SX APPEAL wrote:Whats the point of making more power when you can't put any of it to the ground because your VIP stance requires you to have 7 million degrees of negative camber in the rear so you can clear your fenders with your 10 inch wide tires, of which only the innermost two inches actually touch the road. I mean to each his own but still, seems we're going backwards in our quest for performance here.
infiniti_lineup wrote:Let me repeat:
VIP WHEELS DO NOT BELONG ON A 240SX
Sorry, just the whole concept of deliberately putting your alignment out of spec so you can fit bigger wheels is beyond me... Especially when guys buy the adjustable arms so they can adjust FURTHER out of spec than what it was already. When I first lowered my S13 I didn't do anything to correct the alignment and it had about 2.5 degrees negative in the rear. Even with that "modest" camber I burned through rear tires in 10K miles. Guess I'm just not VIP Baller enough to pay for a new set of 255/35/18's every year. But I feel like I've made enough off topic posts in this thread for one night.simmode1 wrote: I hope you're joking. The wheels in question are 18x9+18 in the front and 18x10+11 in the rear. Those are great and modest sizes. Not too extreme at all. If he wanted to, he could run 235 tires in the front and 255's in the rear without needing much negative camber at all... like 2 or 3 degrees with a roll.
simmode1 wrote:infiniti_lineup wrote:Let me repeat:
VIP WHEELS DO NOT BELONG ON A 240SX
"Didn't do anything the correct the alignment"? LOL You really shouldn't be talking then. I'd bet good money that it was out of spec toe that burned out your tires so fast and not the camber. Negative 3 degrees of camber is nothing really. And I certainly never mentioned slamming his car so low that he'd need adjustable arms.SX APPEAL wrote:
Sorry, just the whole concept of deliberately putting your alignment out of spec so you can fit bigger wheels is beyond me... Especially when guys buy the adjustable arms so they can adjust FURTHER out of spec than what it was already. When I first lowered my S13 I didn't do anything to correct the alignment and it had about 2.5 degrees negative in the rear. Even with that "modest" camber I burned through rear tires in 10K miles. Guess I'm just not VIP Baller enough to pay for a new set of 255/35/18's every year. But I feel like I've made enough off topic posts in this thread for one night.