HKS Turbo Upgrade

Post by **IvanS13** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

May someone please explain the different type of numbers for the HKS turbo kits? Is it just the type of turbo they use, along with the trim? Whats the scoop

Post by **ItzGenX** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

the numbers consist of the turbo wheel sizings along with the flange type

Post by **IvanS13** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

I see... thanks. What is "flange type?" Is that how big the outlet is on the turbo? I am currently looking at the 3037... shooting for 350-400WHP (400 being the max... prolly looking at 350). This is going to be mainly a road race car. I have no experience with turbo'd cars, and thus do not know much about em, sorry.

Post by **BuudWeizErr** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

I believe the 3037 uses a T3 flange, that is why the GT25XX's are so popular because they use the same flange as our T25/T28's.

Post by **Redline240** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

BuudWeizErr wrote:I believe the 3037 uses a T3 flange, that is why the GT25XX's are so popular because they use the same flange as our T25/T28's.

so is the GT25 bigger than the T28 or T25? i wish someone would make a sticky about turbo sizes and general turbo info...

oh and if the turbo is bigger than a T3, and uses a T4 flange or whatever, does that mean that i'd need a new manifold or just a new flange?

Post by **IvanS13** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

The kit is the GT... and the GT25 uses a T25 tu-ra-bo I believe. But dont the (full) HKS kits come with a manifold as well... so who cares what type of flange the SR is comptable with? Correct me if I am wrong.

Post by **IvanS13** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

O yea, for turbo size information (Garrett family), check out Greddy's website. I am pretty sure they have it on there.

Post by **ItzGenX** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

I believe the kit you are talking about does not clear the steering column.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

^they come with internal wastegates if you want, and dont have a problem clearing.

Post by **IvanS13** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

Na, I want an external wastegate

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

IvanS13 wrote:O yea, for turbo size information (Garrett family), check out Greddy's website. I am pretty sure they have it on there.

Does greddy have it on their website???? WHY WOULD THEY? They use Mitsubishi turbos......HKS uses Garrett.......

Post by **IvoryJ30t** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

greddy uses mitsubishi turbos. as does the dodge srt-4, and others.

td04, td05, td06, 13b, 14b, 16g, 18g, 20g -all mitsubishi turbos.

Post by **cnichols** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

BuudWeizErr wrote:I believe the 3037 uses a T3 flange, that is why the GT25XX's are so popular because they use the same flange as our T25/T28's.

No, it uses a T25 flange as well.

I'm assuming they're not as popular because they're not offered w/ internal wastegate and/or may be too big to fit in the stock location.

I also think alot of people are afraid it won't spool soon enough for them.

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

yea it uses a t25 flange but that would only make it spool FASTER.......due to the smaller flange, unless of course u mean the turbo......that thing would take a week to spool up fully on a 4 cyl.....thats 4 sure

Post by **cnichols** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

The 3037 take a week to spool up on a 4 cyl? I think not.

Especially not if we're talking about the KA. I spooled the bastard on 3 cylinders before 4000.

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

were talkin SR.....hence the RWD SR forum.......and that monster SHOULD take forever to spool....especially considering its on a T-25 flange....4000 is high for a small flange like the t-25......for example my buddy has a T-88H on his fully built 2JZ-GTE (supra) and the thing takes till 5800RPM to spool to full boost (2.5Bar) (PS we're talking NO NOS)

Post by **cnichols** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

Being a T25 flange and having such a small turbine (coupled with the .61 A/R), it shouldn't be that bad. And....notice I said a KA only running on 3 cylinders.

What does a T88 have to do w/ a GT3037? HUGE difference.

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

they are both huge turbos......and u were running a .61 A/R....thats probably the smallest u can get with the 3037......

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

You think the flange is going to make a turbo take forever to spool? I think you're confusing housings with flanges.

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

Oh, and a t88 is MUCH larger than a 3037...

Post by **Redline240** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

I'm planning on using the 3037 and it does indeed use a T25 flange. The best way to mount it is by using a top mount setup so that you can clear the obvious obsticals from the stock location. The problem is that there are, to my knowledge anyway, currently no top mount manifolds with a T25 flange. One is being constructed by a canadian company and i plan to pick one up and just mount the stock turbo on it until i get the HKS turbo...and lag is only really an issue in first, you say it doesn't spool until 4000? Well last time i check when changing gears she doesn't go below that...plus too much power at too low rpms always causes traction problems...

Redline

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

If you ask full-race to make you their top-mount manifold with a t2 flange, I'm sure they'll comply.

Besides, even if no manufacturer would do that for you, you can always have a macnine shope remove the t3 flange and replace it with a t2 flange.

Post by **Redline240** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

Dori Dori wrote:If you ask full-race to make you their top-mount manifold with a t2 flange, I'm sure they'll comply.

Besides, even if no manufacturer would do that for you, you can always have a macnine shope remove the t3 flange and replace it with a t2 flange.

Very true, very true...might be the way to go...

Redline

Post by **cnichols** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

I've got a KA top mount manifold I'll sell you with a T25 flange. I'm sure that a skilled fabricator can cut the KA head flange off and adapt an SR one to fit with little/no problem. I can get you pics if you want. Let me know: [email protected] or AIM: cnichols240

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

greaser used the JGS log syle manifold for his 3037 for a while at first

Post by **starfireS14** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

I have a hks 2540 doesnt spool til 4000. wished it spooled earlier but its good.

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

oh yea i found a REALLY nice T3 flanged tubular stainless mainfold with external wastegate flangehttp://www.phase2motortrend.com has it....u can also get it with a t4 flange

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

starfireS14 wrote:I have a hks 2540 doesnt spool til 4000. wished it spooled earlier but its good.

upgrade cams would help that lag.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:16 pm

93Niss240 wrote:oh yea i found a REALLY nice T3 flanged tubular stainless mainfold with external wastegate flangehttp://www.phase2motortrend.com has it....u can also get it with a t4 flange

you do understand thats the http://www.full-race.com manifold that was mentioned in an earlier post dont you? :rolleyes

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