HKS turbo on ebay, should I jump on it?

[JDMSIL80]

Ive found this deal on ebay which is not bad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...37203

What manifold and flanges do I need to get in order to fit CA18DET? Thanks!

[Dattebayo]

It says "bolt on". It comes with everything you need, but you may have to clock the compressor housing to get the stock piping to match up.

Hell, if you have the money, 320HP is not a bad upper limit for that turbo and its always nice to have the low spool-up time of a T25 IMO.

[c-rad]

Damn.... $1600 shipped? You do realize that is basically a GT28R (~$700 turbo) with a slightly modified compressor wheel, right? For that price, you could get a GT2871R and still have lots of change leftover for other stuff.

[float_6969]

HKS turbo's are over priced IMO. I think you're mostly paying for the name. Get a GT28R...

[slownslurious]

get a used HKS 2530 IMO

[c-rad]

get a used HKS 2530 IMO

Used ball-bearing turbos.... hmm.... scary thought.

[slownslurious]

I like them. we've had this disagreement before. I'd rather get a used HKS in decent shape than a glued together one at any rate. Although I have to say, spl parts and jspec.com both have new S15 ones for around $800 shipped, so buying crap doesn't make much sense.

[btustison]

I deal with used BB turbos all the time and I haven't had any horror stories yet... although I would be reluctant to buy one online.

[c-rad]

I like them. we've had this disagreement before. I'd rather get a used HKS in decent shape than a glued together one at any rate. Although I have to say, spl parts and jspec.com both have new S15 ones for around $800 shipped, so buying crap doesn't make much sense.

Glued together? Nobody is talking about some xs-power POS turbo. I am talking about a genuine Garrett GT28R dual ball-bearing turbo. People who pay for a brand name are just naive into thinking they are getting a better product. And how do you plan on verifying that one of these are in decent shape? Because they 'said' it was? What recourse do you have against some chinese kid selling parts out of his mom's basement? I'm sorry, but to me the risk is too great seeing as a ball-bearing turbo can NOT be rebuilt. I'm all set with having a $400+ paperweight. Do it once...do it right.

[JDMSIL80]

For $869, there is also S15 GT28 available:However, it is not a bolt-on turbo and may require more parts to fit on CA18DET. What one would you guys get? HKS2530 or T28?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...WA:IT

[Dattebayo]

However, it is not a bolt-on turbo

Where did you get that from? I was told by quite a few people that it is "bolt on".

I think you should be just fine with the S15 turbo, themadscientist had no problems with installing it on his wifes car...

[JDMSIL80]

I read from past threads that S15 turbo holes will not line-up with the holes on the manifold, and the top of the turbo hits the bottom of the manifold so its about 3/8" from going on all the way.

Seems like it requires quite a bit of work to making it fit.

[Dattebayo]

I was under the impression that was the Pulsar GTiR turbo that did not fit correctly, not the S15.

I have been mistaken, but I understood that all you had to do was clock the compressor housing to make it fit.

[c-rad]

I was under the impression that was the Pulsar GTiR turbo that did not fit correctly, not the S15.

I have been mistaken, but I understood that all you had to do was clock the compressor housing to make it fit.

Correct. All of the T2 flanged turbos bolt up to the manifold without issue. The only 'mod' that needs to be done is to clock the compressor housing a few degrees so the compressor outlet clears the exhaust manifold. The GTi-R T28 is a different story because the turbine housing is slightly skewed because of the FWD setup and the O2 housing routing.

[JDMSIL80]

A local shop told me the S14 turbine is essentially the same as the S15 with similar output. Is this true or he's just trying to get rid of their S14 T28?

[slownslurious]

the S15 spec R has a divider flange between the wastegate and turbine outlet and a few other differences as well. They are not the same. The regular s15 turbo is the same as the s14, I believe.At any rate how much do they want for the T28? I'm in the market for one if its cheap.

[c-rad]

the S15 spec R has a divider flange between the wastegate and turbine outlet and a few other differences as well. They are not the same. The regular s15 turbo is the same as the s14, I believe.At any rate how much do they want for the T28? I'm in the market for one if its cheap.

Wrong again... they ARE the same. Same CHRA. Only differences are the divider, and the exhaust wheel on the S15 is made out of Inconel rather than steel.

[slownslurious]

those are differences.... which means they aren't the same...

*rolls eyes*so quick to jump on my case...

[Dattebayo]

float said in a unrelated thread that the S15 compressor does not have to be clocked...

[boost_boy]

You guys, this crap about this thread is done because it's going to lead to old threads and old discussions. It doesn't matter what we think anyways..........

Dee

[float_6969]

IIRC, the only difference between the two turbo's is on the exhaust sides, and the compressor sides are identical. The differences between the two are the cast divider and the inconel blades. I think the specs are the same. SOME S14 turbo's aren't ball bearing, but all S15 turbo's are. The S15 should support about the same horsepower as the S14, it just spools slightly quicker.