hks cams on ebay

[matty]

ive seen these cams on ebay for a long time now. im curious as to why this guy cant seem to sell them, aside from sounding like an *** in his description.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

seems like a good price. so what gives?

[c-rad]

They aren't REALLY a good price... $440 shipped for used cams when brand new ones are $560 + shipping.

[themadscientist]

I don't think HKS makes CA cams anymore. I don't see them in the catalog. That being the case the law of supply and demand dictates price. Obviously the demand is not such that he can move them at that price.

[matty]

i read that anything over 8.8 mm in lift for the ca is too much without going aftermarket springs.

true/untrue?

[float_6969]

I suppose you could squeeze out 9mm if you weren't over revving it too much.

[BACARDI_DWB]

alright so 9.0 lift and its time for new springs. just wondering how high you can go on the lift before you need to swap over to solid lifters vice hydrolic?(sp)

[themadscientist]

Check the tomei cams designed for the lifters, they are 10 and some change I beleive. I think the solid lifters are called for due to increased RPM not increased lift.

[BACARDI_DWB]

ok cool but just wondering with that being said how do you adjust the lash on a lifter that does not have a rocker arm? are there shims under the lifter? just wondering how difficult is it to adjust the solid lifter? concidering going high lift and high rpm (9k) but want to know how much of a PITA its going to be to do the valve lash

[themadscientist]

For hydraulic there is no lash adjustment. They pump up automatically. With the solid ones there a different ways to adjust lash but on the Tomei lifters there are small precision-ground shims that go between the lifter and the valve that adjust it's height in relation to the cam lobe.

[BACARDI_DWB]

yes i knew how the hydraulic ones worked, and i was pretty sure that is how the solid ones worked. good to know. pretty sure i am going solid now. thanks

[themadscientist]

here a diagram of the Tomei peices.http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003....html

[BACARDI_DWB]

very informative. thanks

[float_6969]

As previously stated, I believe the shim's on most lifters is between the valve and the lifter.

I would like it if someone would come up with a KA24DE style lifter. The problem with the tomei style is that the cam has to be removed to set the cam to lifter spacing, whereas on the KA24DE, the shims are on TOP of the lifter. This allows you to check the clearance, order the correct sized shims, depress the lifter with the cam still in, remove the old shim, install the new shim, and repeat.

I also don't like that the tomei solid lifter doesn't utilize the cam oiling that the hydro lifter does.

I'm sure tomie wouldn't have done this if they hadn't researched it and decided it wasn't an issue, but it would still be nice to have.