HKS 2835 or T3/T04E? which is bigger?

[TomGreen]

Which of these is going to spool up quicker?the hks 2835 with 48 trim and .61 a/r? orthe Garrett T3/T04E with 50 trim and .48 a/r ?

I am trying to find the fastest spooling 380-400 hp turbo w/ external wastegate design.

Am i barking up the wrong tree trying to get the smallest trim of these turbos? I am trying to find something that will sit between a td05-18g and a standard trim 2835.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

[candela]

Quote »Garrett T3/T04E with 50 trim and .48 a/r[/quote]

:ylsuper (maybe a .63... but i think the .48 will get you there pretty easy) :ylsuper

[TomGreen]

:ylsuper (maybe a .63... but i think the .48 will get you there pretty easy) :ylsuper

so the t3/t04e with the small trim will spool up quicker than the 2835?

[meggala]

I'm going trust t518z 10 cm internal gate factory positionhere is the factory dyno graph thought I would throguh a spanner in the works for a different perspective. factory rated which is usually conservative to 341 ps @ 1.2 bar.cheersmeggala

[candela]

I got about 18psi on a .48 50 trim on my DSM (still a 2.0, 170psi across the board) at about 3200 rpm... granted its not bal bearing its much cheaper alternative. The 50trim comp wheel is--IMO-- the most efficient pump gas (18-24'ish psi) compressor in teh market today. You would nutt if you saw what kind of numbers this turbo has done. It works very very well with 2.0 (even works great on my roommates 1.6 honda!)! I know the HKS is a little smaller and will most likely spool a little sooner, but the gains and price of the 50 trim (and availability and interchangability) should far outweigh the HKS IMO....

Good luck

[TomGreen]

I got about 18psi on a .48 50 trim on my DSM (still a 2.0, 170psi across the board) at about 3200 rpm... granted its not bal bearing its much cheaper alternative. The 50trim comp wheel is--IMO-- the most efficient pump gas (18-24'ish psi) compressor in teh market today. You would nutt if you saw what kind of numbers this turbo has done. It works very very well with 2.0 (even works great on my roommates 1.6 honda!)! I know the HKS is a little smaller and will most likely spool a little sooner, but the gains and price of the 50 trim (and availability and interchangability) should far outweigh the HKS IMO....

Good luck

WHats the spool up like on your roomates 1.6? The reason I ask Is I am putting mine on a 1.5L

[candela]

Its a built D16z6 with 9:1. He only runs about 15psi on the street and we hit it about 3500. THe car is amazing though it made 268whp on 13psi on the 50trim and before it was 252whp on a 60trim (.82 thats the reason) at thesame boost. Swapping to the smaller 50 trim netted not only that HP increase but a 60whp torque increase. Stock compression on that motor is 9.2:1 and he is running 9:1. I would guess a 1.5 with similar compression would not be to much slower...

BTW- what motor is it going on? GA16? CA16? is it a nissan?

[TomGreen]

Its a built D16z6 with 9:1. He only runs about 15psi on the street and we hit it about 3500. THe car is amazing though it made 268whp on 13psi on the 50trim and before it was 252whp on a 60trim (.82 thats the reason) at thesame boost. Swapping to the smaller 50 trim netted not only that HP increase but a 60whp torque increase. Stock compression on that motor is 9.2:1 and he is running 9:1. I would guess a 1.5 with similar compression would not be to much slower...

BTW- what motor is it going on? GA16? CA16? is it a nissan?

I am shopping for turbos for my vg30dett. want more than td05's but less than td06's

[TurboB15Sentra]

GT25R (GT2540) will get you there pretty fast, and make 400whp. Plus it bolts onto a stock manifold. The way to get there is this..

GT2540 (.64 A/R exhaust housing)- 1000.00Greddy o2 housing- 150.00Tial 38mm wastegate- 250.00Tial flange and welding costs- 75.00Dump tube- 25.00

You have a ballbearing turbocharger, that will make 400whp at around 18-19psi on a stock SR20DET.. spoolup faster than a 50 trim T3/T04E, and last 3 times longer. Compare the costs..

T3/T04E- 650.00Log manifold- 400.00Tial 38mm- 250.00Downpipe- 250.00Dumptube- 25.00Oil feed and drain lines- 75.00

It's pretty damn close... Travis

[TomGreen]

I thought the 2540's were internal wastegates? I will have to make manifolds no matter what because stock maniflolds wont flow 700rwhp.

I was originally looking at this gt25r turbo but read it was a mismatch turbo and not very efficient.

[TurboB15Sentra]

I thought you wanted 380-400whp.. that's why I said GT2540. Yes, there's a speed mismatch between the wheels.. but TRUST me, it's a kickass turbo. Just like the 60-1/T3. Looks bad on paper, but in real world app's.. it's a great turbo. The 2540 is internally gated.. however, when you weld on the flange for the wastegate, you can have them TIG weld the flapper shut from the outlet side of the exhaust housing. For the money, you can't beat the performance and reliability that you get with the 2540. If you are looking for more than 400whp.. then you need to look at something like an SC61 or a GT3540. Those will get you to 650whp or so.

Here's what the 2540 looks like with the manifold modified..

That's one I just did for a guy with an S13. 400whp at less than 20psi. Plus, faster spool than any T3/T04E I've used.Travis