HKS 264 camshafts, Step 1 or Step 2

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Once I collect the parts I am gonna rebuild the engine. I will be replacing the springs and retainers among other things. Is the only difference between HKS step 1 and 2 the need for upgraded valve springs? I already have the step 1, would I get any more performance from the step 2? Or is it more an issue of reliability.


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Information like the turbo, exhaust manifold, intake manifold, desired rev limit, and lash adjustment system would help answer your question.

To just throw out a random answer, BC264(step 2) cams with solid lash adjusters are a party.

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depends on your whole setup especially your turbo and what you are using the car for. Highway pulls, drag, drift, autocross, etc.

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Geno750 wrote:Information like the turbo, exhaust manifold, intake manifold, desired rev limit, and lash adjustment system would help answer your question.

To just throw out a random answer, BC264(step 2) cams with solid lash adjusters are a party.
Yes that info is necessary if I were deciding which cam brand to get, but since I already have the HKS step 1 I'm wondering if there would be any benefit from the step 2. Are lash adjusters the same as lash killers? I saw the HKS lash killers but I didn't think they were necessary for a mild build.

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dude do you not understand, brand has nothing to do with it. It depends on your turbo setup. Tell us your turbo size and that would help us help you. With a small t25 you would stay with a step one and anything bigger like a 2871r or bigger you want step 2 especially for more top end power.

And you cant just look at the lift....duration also matters. give us more information on your setup!!!

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CMG wrote:Yes that info is necessary if I were deciding which cam brand to get, but since I already have the HKS step 1 I'm wondering if there would be any benefit from the step 2. Are lash adjusters the same as lash killers? I saw the HKS lash killers but I didn't think they were necessary for a mild build.
Mild build which uses what parts, do like this guy said and we'll answer you.
garagelu wrote:dude do you not understand, brand has nothing to do with it. It depends on your turbo setup. Tell us your turbo size and that would help us help you. With a small t25 you would stay with a step one and anything bigger like a 2871r or bigger you want step 2 especially for more top end power.

And you cant just look at the lift....duration also matters. give us more information on your setup!!!
Also, brand... wtf? no. Lift, duration = what matters, brand just happens to who makes the ideal cams for your application.

Lastly, lash killers as in solid rocker arms = awesome for any build.

If your talking about rocker arm stoppers, they suck, don't waste your money on them.

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Geno750 wrote:
Also, brand... wtf? no. Lift, duration = what matters, brand just happens to who makes the ideal cams for your application.
do you not know how to read? I said brand has nothing to do with it. Read the posts above. They were talking something about brand of cams which is stupid. Im not stupid. I know that lift and duration matters. thats why I said the same thing you did in my post.

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garagelu wrote:dude do you not understand, brand has nothing to do with it. It depends on your turbo setup. Tell us your turbo size and that would help us help you. With a small t25 you would stay with a step one and anything bigger like a 2871r or bigger you want step 2 especially for more top end power.

And you cant just look at the lift....duration also matters. give us more information on your setup!!!
I probably don't understand. The reason I didn't give my set up is because I was talking about the future, I didn't want to be talking fantasy. The only parts I've accumulated so far for a rebuild are the Greddy valve springs, and HKS cams. If I could I'd do a full build, but since that costs alot I plan on doing springs, retainers, cams, and head gasket with a T28 or something like that. I'm still in the planning stages. I'm just wondering if I should stick with the step 1 that I have or ditch em and go for step 2.

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The HKS 264 Step 2 cams have a 11.5mm Lift compared to the HKS 264 Step 1 having 10.5mm lift. The lift should allow the cams to hold TQ longer into the powerband resulting in more HP. And yes, buy cams based on turbo setup. Turbo that gives full boost in the 3krpm area, choose 256 cams. Full Boost in the 4krpm range use 260 cams. Full boost in the 5krpm range choose 270 cams. Full boost in the 6krpm range choose 280 cams. The higher the lift, the longer tq should hold in the powerband.

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OK Thanks, that gives me something to think about. Only reason I was gonna go with step 1 is cuz I got a great deal on em. I guess I'll research ad learn more and collect more parts and then make a better decision after I have a more complete set up. I'm assuming I'll probably end up with a BB S14/S15 T28, only cuz those are more cheap and my goal is around 300hp anyway.


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