high gas prices = total demise of GM next year?

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According to the Detroit Free Press The UAW chief is very worried.

GM doesn't currently have a hybrid vehicle and won't have one for sale till 2008(which in GM speak means 2011).

GM has bet the farm on fuel cells, which are getting more expensive to research and produce since they rely on fossil fuels.

GM is betting its turnaround on its redesigned SUV's and Pick-ups and its new family of RWD 8-cylinder family cars. None of these vehicles are particularly fuel efficient.

Gas prices won't go down, but they will go up.

I think this situation is going to make GM's bad situation worse. Serves their idiot Executives right.



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History has an odd way of repeating itself.GM won't disappear, but it'll shrink at the same alarming rate it did during the 70s and 80s.

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I think that GM will figure it out eventually. They have all kinds of people with buisness degrees that have nothing better to do than crunch numbers. Gas prices will eventually drop back down a little. After we recoop from the hurricane and once the prices per barrel of crude oil drop back down they will be fine. Believe me something has to happen to relieve gas prices.(maybe even drill into antartica for the stuff)

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Either that or I'll convert my car to run on mcdonald's deep fryer grease

I dont think the general will disappear.... imo.... it just means theyll have more sales in other areas... These hybrids are sort of retarted IMHO.... but that doesnt mean people wont jump on the fanboy bandwagon!

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elwesso wrote: These hybrids are sort of retarted IMHO.... but that doesnt mean people wont jump on the fanboy bandwagon!
Agreed.

I like the new charger ad.

"The Charger Hybrid. It burns gas AND tires!"

(there is no "hybrid" model...)

Funny thing last night...I had a dream that regular went up to $30 per gallon. Freakin' wierd.

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think I'm gonna buy a horse and get nike to make some running shoes for it...

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Jesda wrote:History has an odd way of repeating itself.GM won't disappear, but it'll shrink at the same alarming rate it did during the 70s and 80s.
I agree. You'd think GM/Ford learned something from the 1973 oil crisis.Deja Vu all over again.


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The imports like good ole Nissan and Toyota are gonna eat this gas crisis up.

WHat's the deal with Toyota's hybrid? Saw a new story about a month ago that they were having problems with them.

And which company is making the Hydrogen powered cars??

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JESTER wrote:The imports like good ole Nissan and Toyota are gonna eat this gas crisis up.

WHat's the deal with Toyota's hybrid? Saw a new story about a month ago that they were having problems with them.

And which company is making the Hydrogen powered cars??
The problem with Toyota's hybrid is it's just too complex (IMO). Honda's system is much, MUCH better. But, of course, Toyota's the marketing genius. Meanwhile, people with low-maintenance Insights laugh their asses off at the idiots with "Hybrid Synergy Drive" which causes more problems than it solves.

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The problem and advantage of the Prius is one of image. Its how annoying celebrities and whiny left-wing tree huggers make a statement. Plus it looks like an inflated Echo.

The Insight, on the other hand, looks like a device from the future, like someone at Honda borrowed it from a production facility to test drive on the road.

GM right now is developing hydrogen power. It looks promising, but practical considerations are a problem. There's the question of how much in fossil fuels is required to bring hydrogen to the people, and the expense of building a nationwide hydrogen infrastructure. James May on Top Gear drove one of GM's hybrid cars slowly through a parking lot. It was simply amazing to see it work.

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Jesda wrote:GM right now is developing hydrogen power. It looks promising, but practical considerations are a problem. There's the question of how much in fossil fuels is required to bring hydrogen to the people, and the expense of building a nationwide hydrogen infrastructure. James May on Top Gear drove one of GM's hybrid cars slowly through a parking lot. It was simply amazing to see it work.
BMW has the H2R, a hydrogen powered race car. IIRC, the best way to extract pure hydrogen is from water. Right now it requires large amounts of energy to extract hydrogen. I believe the future lies in nuclear reactions to extract the hydrogen

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bassinasilvia wrote:BMW has the H2R, a hydrogen powered race car. IIRC, the best way to extract pure hydrogen is from water. Right now it requires large amounts of energy to extract hydrogen. I believe the future lies in nuclear reactions to extract the hydrogen
Bingo.

Cold fusion is the key to the future.


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