A buddy of mine sent me this, I don't have any clue how much truth there is to it all, but it makes sense to my kindergarden mind. I think the whole 'gas out' day idea is BS but this sounds like it could carry a little more weight. The main reason I like it is that I don't want to suport those bastards over there.
I did the "don't buy gas on a certain day" and can't see that it hurt the oil companies at all . It was certainly an inconvenience to me and probably to you too. Received this email this evening and think it is a logical approach. Three weeks ago I paid $1.949 a gallon; I filled up yesterday, Friday, at $2199 a gallon; today, Saturday, I saw prices as high as $2.249. At a nickel a day, it won't take but 16 days to be more than $3.00. Maybe if enough of us (like 300 million) really did boycott Exxon and Mobil, it would inconvenience someone other than us, the American consumer.
I copied the following from an email I received in Feb. 2003 - maybe if we had paid attention then, we wouldn't be where were are now!
The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to
boycott their GAS. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.
Major companies who import their oil from the Middle East:
Shell............................205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco............144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil................130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway......117,740,000 barrels Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels
Major companies who do not import oil from the Middle East: Citgo...................0 barrels Sunoco............ .0 barrels Conoco............. .0 barrels Sinclair.............. 0 barrels BP/Phillips.......... 0 barrels Hess...................0 barrels
All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each company is required to report
on a monthly basis where they get their oil and how much they are importing. Stop paying for terrorism............
I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer. Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.
It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work
Please read it and join with us!
By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 ($2.08 9 last fill up in San Diego) for regular unleaded in my town.
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace.... not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas!
And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.
Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!!
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As weird as that may sound....it could actually work. If we only boycott those exxon and mobil then it should be a chain reaction resulting in lowered gas prices. Im down for it. But....with the thought in mind that this is all in theory. I hope it makes a difference because gas prices is ridiculous nowadays.
well i was reading forbes this afternoon, they had a intresting article on 2$ gas and whos becoming rich off of it, the refinerys are the ones that are making billions off of us, at one point in the 80s when the demand was less we had some 260 refinerys now with fuel demand increasing by leaps and bounds there are only 145 operatiing refinerys and those people are the ones profiting off the oil. sure every one gets their peice, like the gove with over 40cen on the gallon of taxes.
although this idea very well could work, we need to get more information though , as gas is refined then wholesaled to people. how do we know what gas stations get gas from exxon and mobile alot of stations around here are local stations that prob buy whole sale from them .
although this idea very well could work, we need to get more information though , as gas is refined then wholesaled to people. how do we know what gas stations get gas from exxon and mobile alot of stations around here are local stations that prob buy whole sale from them .
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Boycotting oil companies to get them to lower gas prices will never work. Gas is too much of a necessity. The prices get jacked up in the refining process. In order to make a dent in the cost of gas, we need to lobby Congress for a nation wide gas standard. That way, the refiners cannot justify their cost increases of having to manufacture "boutique blends". For example, I think there are 15+ different kinds of gas used in California alone... and that's why California has the highest gas prices in the nation.
If you really want to understand gas prices, try getting in touch with the OC Weekly. They did a GREAT piece on how corrupt and manipulative the oil industry is. Their reporting was so right on that they couldn't get any on the record responses to their questions.
I wish that I had kept the article. The reporter went through the excuses provided by the oil companies for high gas prices, and disected them one by one. The conclusion that he reached was that without some sort of Congressional oversight into the oil industry, consumers are going to be at the whims of the oil industry.
The one argument that I do remember which sticks out in my mind, is the way that gas prices go up as soon as crude oil prices go up. It takes something like 2-3 months for oil to come from the Persian Gulf, get refined here in America, and then hit the gas stations. Yet the second crude oil prices go up (as they recently went up to over $40 a barrel), the oil industry jacks up gas prices. So basically, they're refining oil that cost them say $25 a barrel, and charging us as if they had paid $40 a barrel.
If you really want to understand gas prices, try getting in touch with the OC Weekly. They did a GREAT piece on how corrupt and manipulative the oil industry is. Their reporting was so right on that they couldn't get any on the record responses to their questions.
I wish that I had kept the article. The reporter went through the excuses provided by the oil companies for high gas prices, and disected them one by one. The conclusion that he reached was that without some sort of Congressional oversight into the oil industry, consumers are going to be at the whims of the oil industry.
The one argument that I do remember which sticks out in my mind, is the way that gas prices go up as soon as crude oil prices go up. It takes something like 2-3 months for oil to come from the Persian Gulf, get refined here in America, and then hit the gas stations. Yet the second crude oil prices go up (as they recently went up to over $40 a barrel), the oil industry jacks up gas prices. So basically, they're refining oil that cost them say $25 a barrel, and charging us as if they had paid $40 a barrel.
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true, but... the oil that they are selling now which was purchased 2-3 months ago is funding the oil they are buying today.Phax wrote:The one argument that I do remember which sticks out in my mind, is the way that gas prices go up as soon as crude oil prices go up. It takes something like 2-3 months for oil to come from the Persian Gulf, get refined here in America, and then hit the gas stations. Yet the second crude oil prices go up (as they recently went up to over $40 a barrel), the oil industry jacks up gas prices. So basically, they're refining oil that cost them say $25 a barrel, and charging us as if they had paid $40 a barrel.
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ceniack wrote:true, but... the oil that they are selling now which was purchased 2-3 months ago is funding the oil they are buying today.
It has been fun jogging my memory on this subject. Another point that was made in the article is that the oil companies do not buy at market rate. They buy on long term contracts. Ie, market rate may be $30 a barrel. But the oil company will promise to buy xx million barrels, if they can get it at $29 a barrel. Because they are buying in such huge quantities, they can get away with bargaining like that.
It's kind of like a group buy. Where as an exhaust might be $250 dollars, when 15 people get together, the seller might let them go for $230 a piece.
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Phax wrote:It has been fun jogging my memory on this subject. Another point that was made in the article is that the oil companies do not buy at market rate. They buy on long term contracts. Ie, market rate may be $30 a barrel. But the oil company will promise to buy xx million barrels, if they can get it at $29 a barrel. Because they are buying in such huge quantities, they can get away with bargaining like that.
It's kind of like a group buy. Where as an exhaust might be $250 dollars, when 15 people get together, the seller might let them go for $230 a piece.
that makes the argument in your last post make a little more sense.