HID JDM D2R 8000k bulbs exterior and interior?

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Hi guys, recently bought a 2003.5 g35 sedan and im really annoyed with the look of my lights. I want something brighter. I've been browsing through ebay and came across these. Would these lights fit on a sedan?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

I also want to change the inside lights, eg, side doors, and dome lights. something like this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

Do you guys have any recommendations or opinions on these changes? I've gone thru other forum post and im like


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They are not any brighter. They are bluer in color. This is bad for automotive lighting. Blue not only makes up the smallest area of the light spectrum, blue also tends to scatter the most and the human eye is least responsive to it. The last is probably the most important. It produces the most glaring effect in humans as the iris does not contract as much as it would with a white or yellow light. Oncoming drivers will be particularly blinded by them.

You may not think this to be important, but consider if you are on a 2-lane curved road. If the oncoming driver can't see, there is a possibility they may cross over the centerline and hit you.

The scatter effect is also an issue. Blue light does not create the clearest image. It seems brighter because our eyes don't adjust well to them, but in fact, you end up seeing less clearly. And this becomes much more of an issue when you are in rain or fog as more of this light will bounce back at you.

HID's have traditionally had a very slight bluish-violet tint, but most of it's light is white. When you begin to push more of the light color into the blue area, it starts to become an issue. Some people already complain about standard color HID's and their glare already, so it's already pushing it as it is.

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wow good info...

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i bought the same ones froms ebay for my car. i also have a 2003 g sedan. they came out great, and the install was a breeze. and they look awesome. i havent really noticed any change in lighting effectiveness, just that they look great. i'm currently awaiting yellow 3000k h4 bulbs to replace my fogs, and im going to do high beam hid soon.

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Nice one CK...I give ya bunks on that reply!

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thintzen wrote:i bought the same ones froms ebay for my car. i also have a 2003 g sedan. they came out great, and the install was a breeze. and they look awesome. i havent really noticed any change in lighting effectiveness, just that they look great. i'm currently awaiting yellow 3000k h4 bulbs to replace my fogs, and im going to do high beam hid soon.
Some info on blue lighting and HID conversions. I'd seriously take a look at this before vuying any more lighting. Not trying to discourage you here so much as make sure you make an informed decision. The following link is about blue bulbs. While it more specifically deals with halogens, the concept of moving to a bluer color still applies.

http://www.danielsternlighting....html

The link below is a must read before you decide to use a HID capsule in a halogen housing. There is a great photo/diagram of the light source composition. Note the charper cutoff of light from the filiment than the arc. Also note the hotspots. The arc has 2 small extreme hotspots on the ends where the electrodes are. By contrast, the filament is notably cooler towards the ends. Halogen lens housings are designed around the filament and may have undesired results with an arc capsule in place of it. There is a portion about 3/4's the way down this page that gives some insight about foreground and distance lighting and how they affect each other.

http://www.danielsternlighting....html

Thanks Sean. I got most of the info from the sites I just linked. It has always been a great source for automotive lighting. Poke around in it. Lotsa great info.

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so after reading the 2nd part of your link. One section confused me a little.

"HID headlamps also require careful weatherproofing and electrical shielding because of the high voltages involved. These unsafe "retrofits" make it physically possible to insert an HID bulb where a halogen bulb belongs, but this practice is illegal and dangerous, regardless of claims by these marketers that their systems are "beam pattern corrected" or the fraudulent use of established brand names to try to trick you into thinking the product is legitimate."

does my g35 sedan have halogen lights or HID headlights? cause i always thought they were 4000k HID lights. also, putting aside the "other driver's safety and my own," is it possible to install the lights i've listed in my previous post or would i need some sort of conversion/different wiring.

basically, i want to know if those lights are plug and go for my car

ohh yeah, c-kwik

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ok, i just realized that my g35 needed H1 halogen lights, but i got some free d2r headlights for free. Is it ok if i plugged these in the same way? or would i need a full HID conversion?

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Nublet wrote:so after reading the 2nd part of your link. One section confused me a little.

"HID headlamps also require careful weatherproofing and electrical shielding because of the high voltages involved. These unsafe "retrofits" make it physically possible to insert an HID bulb where a halogen bulb belongs, but this practice is illegal and dangerous, regardless of claims by these marketers that their systems are "beam pattern corrected" or the fraudulent use of established brand names to try to trick you into thinking the product is legitimate."

does my g35 sedan have halogen lights or HID headlights? cause i always thought they were 4000k HID lights. also, putting aside the "other driver's safety and my own," is it possible to install the lights i've listed in my previous post or would i need some sort of conversion/different wiring.

basically, i want to know if those lights are plug and go for my car

ohh yeah, c-kwik
Converting a Halogen to an HID will require you to add a ballast. Most HID conversion kits will include them. HID capsules actually use less wattage, but require a large voltage to initiate the arc. If you must do this, just make sure all wiring is of at least the same gauge as the factory wiring (or what the manufacturer of the kit recommends) and that all connections are weathertight (heat shrink works great).

As far as your car, the headlights should be HID's and the foglights and hi-beam should be Halogen.

http://www.sylvania.com/Consum...s.htm

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I'm also looking into getting an 03 sedan. How much does it cost to upgrade to HID's? Also, how difficult is it to do?

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you can possibly get an hid kit form anywhere within the range on 200-300. the install is relatively easy, just access the blbs from the whell wells. it took me about 30 minutes to change my bulbs. all i needed was a stubby phillips screwdrive and regular one.


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