HID Conversion?

[versa_fan]

I tried to do a search on this topic to see if anyone has asked the same thing, and I couldn't find anything similar, so please forgive me if I just missed it somewhere...

From the information I have seen, the bulbs on the Versa are type H4. Some websites with information regarding HID kits say that there are special kits that need to be bought for these types of bulbs (and are harder to convert).

Is it because the headlight assembly is semi-sealed and therefore the bulbs are hard to replace? Or is it because the high & low beams both use the same bulb, and therefore I will lose the high beam functionality? Or both?

Has anyone successfully installed an HID kit on the Versa?

[BenzTech Gone Versa]

I Did The HID Conv. i went the cheap way and lost my highbeams.they sell diff.kits some have a xenon low and halageon high beam.then they have a 4 ballast set up(lots a money) where each bulb has twocircle thingies where one is always lit for low and the other archs up for high beam. last but not least is the bi-xenon whitch is one ballast each and emits the same light but has a little metal piece that moves to let more light thru for high beams. h4 is the correct bulb size and we actually have good amount of room behind our headlamp assemblies.looks awsome with xenons!!

[Ever Victorious]

Ok... I apologize, but I'm probably going to start another war here.

What, exactly, is the purpose of an HID, besides blinding oncoming drivers at night?

[MinisterofDOOM]

Properly configured HIDs WON'T blind oncoming drivers. Properly aimed, factory installed HIDS are set with a height cutoff. Many HID equipped cars have in-cabin height adjustors for compensating for lardbutts in the backseat or other loads heavy enough to raise the headlights' aim.

Most aftermarket HID kits aren't as well set up, and do cause problems with blinding oncoming traffic.

My dad's car has HIDs and I've driven in front of him numerous times with no problems from his headlights.

The real problems come from Civics with 99999999999999999 degree kelvin (exaggeration, but still...) aftermarket kits that are purple and aimed right at my rearview mirror, or from those idiot SUVs that are lifted higher than the Eiffel Tower but never see a single pebble under their tires, and have wheels taller than my hood, that sit so that their headlights come right in your rear window.

[versabundus]

Why bother? The versa has very well designed lights that illuminate the road well. If you want whiter light, get some silver stars. I had a Mazda p5 and I remember reading that the lights actually out performed a lot of very pricey cars xenons in tests. The Versa's lights are at least as good, maybe better.

[versa_fan]

Everyone, thanks for the input.

I thought about my original intention to convert to HIDs after doing some research.

Ever Victorious, the main reason for me is to have better road illumination at night. Thanks to versabundus' post, I feel a lot better now about the Versa's OEM lights.

Also, MinisterofDOOM is correct. If you ever see a car with OEM HID/Xenons, look at the headlights straight on from a short distance (say, 10-15 feet). From a short distance, you can look at the headlights straight on without blinding yourself. Get farther away from the car and the lights get much brighter and much harder to look at. I have noticed that cars with aftermarket HID/Xenons are not like this. They blind me no matter what, and that's not what I want to happen to other drivers around me. Not only is it inconsiderate, but also very dangerous.

[Ever Victorious]

The V's headlights are as good or better than the projectors that were in my Optima. I can see quite well with them at night.

I apologize. I think a lot of people started doing the aftermarket HID lights to compensate for older cars that had the square sealed-halogen bulb systems that would go quite yellow and dark after a while.

I had a couple cars recently with these old lights, and found diamond cut multi-reflector H4 conversions that brought the brightness up to modern standards. My RX-7 will be receiving a set of them soon.

[BenzTech Gone Versa]

well before yesterday i had a H4 phillips set up in mine and its 5000KLooks Awsome and aimed properly!i sold them today to some kid in a honda civic.i now will proceed in installing a d2s bulbs with mercedes benz ballasts.i let u guys know how it looks.i also dont believe in blinding ppl in front of me.aim is important or else cops wont be kind!

[BenzTech Gone Versa]

yeah i kinna gotta rig up my xenons for now till i get some more cash and go for another phillips set up.im picking up a adaptor so i can do less rigging: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

And im gonna get the male wire connector for the h4 harness: http://www.comagination.com/parts.htm

Another Helpful Site For H4 Bulb: http://www.audi-quattro.org/tech/h4bulbwiring.html
Modified by BenzTech Gone Versa at 4:15 AM 10/9/2006

[ChineseBuffet]

BenzTech Gone Versa: I'm just curious about your HID kit. When you installed your HIDs did you replace the OEM headlamp fuse to 20A? Did you have to attach any sort of extra relay cable that came with the HID kit for this to work on a Versa? Did you see any sort of high beam indicators light up on your gauge cluster after you did the conversion? I'm just wondering because you mentioned your kit was just a single Lo beam with no Hi. Thanks for your help.

CB

[BenzTech Gone Versa]

BenzTech Gone Versa: I'm just curious about your HID kit. When you installed your HIDs did you replace the OEM headlamp fuse to 20A? Did you have to attach any sort of extra relay cable that came with the HID kit for this to work on a Versa? Did you see any sort of high beam indicators light up on your gauge cluster after you did the conversion? I'm just wondering because you mentioned your kit was just a single Lo beam with no Hi. Thanks for your help.

CB

I did not repl the fuse. my kit is actually out of a bi-xenon system.I just did not install the projector assem. which has the hi/low door trap.the high beam ind'c.comes on when i move the stalk but headlamps shut of.I flick it back n forth so it strobes and ppl get outta my way(as if im hi beaming them).

[KimberKenobi]

I flick it back n forth so it strobes and ppl get outta my way(as if im hi beaming them).

Why do people do this? It's actually really rude IMHO... but I'd like to hear the reasoning or an explanation behind it...

[proxim2020]

Why do people do this? It's actually really rude IMHO

[Kolk1]

Why do people do this? It's actually really rude IMHO... but I'd like to hear the reasoning or an explanation behind it...

If you are in the Left lane, and either A) going slower than traffic, or B) pacing the person to your right causing a rolling road block. You deserve it.

[Clipsed]

I did not repl the fuse. my kit is actually out of a bi-xenon system.I just did not install the projector assem. which has the hi/low door trap.the high beam ind'c.comes on when i move the stalk but headlamps shut of.I flick it back n forth so it strobes and ppl get outta my way(as if im hi beaming them).

No need to replace the fuse, what you really should do is create a new harness which nobody does, because it is a P&P kit, but I will laugh when somebodies car ends up melting their harness causing a short, and possibly a fire.

Benz, your kit is not a bi-xenon set-up, the only thing that makes HIDs bi-xenons are the projector assemblies, not the bulbs, all of the bulbs weather low beam only or bi-xenon have the same bulbs, the cutoff shield is what ceates the high beam when it moves.

Also by strobing your HIDs you are stressing your harness, your ballasts, and your bulbs, later down the road this will cause you problems, but don't let that stop you, just letting you know.

Why do you all insist on throwing kits in your halogen headlamp assemblies? You are only getting worss light output, and if you are using anything higher than 5000K you are stressing your eyes. OEM uses 4100K-4300K which nobody likes because it is not "BLUE ENOUGH" because everybody thinks it is yellow.

[proxim2020]

It would probably be better to just pass on the right. Then cut them off for your troubles. 75% of the people get the message

[pingflood]

Everybody considering getting an 'HID kit' should read this.

http://www.danielsternlighting....html

I have yet to see anybody present a convincing counter argument to Stern's article.

[audtatious]

and if you are using anything higher than 5000K you are stressing your eyes. OEM uses 4100K-4300K which nobody likes because it is not "BLUE ENOUGH" because everybody thinks it is yellow.

Stressing eyes how? I upgraded from factory HID to 6000k and road visibility is actually better. Now, if you go up to 8000k+ then I might agree with you that light output is not optimal.

[KimberKenobi]

If you are in the Left lane, and either A) going slower than traffic, or B) pacing the person to your right causing a rolling road block. You deserve it.

... I guess in my job I just see all the horrible things that go wrong when people do stupid things... Because it is kind of my job to write reports on all the people found guilty of felonies... so murders, reckless driving, wanton endangerment, and let's not forget the ever popular trafficking in controlled substances...

dang, I'm a narc ...*exit*

[KimberKenobi]

Everybody considering getting an 'HID kit' should read this.

http://www.danielsternlighting....html

I have yet to see anybody present a convincing counter argument to Stern's article.

great article you linked to!

[versa2nr]

well on top of that, lets just address the cost effectiveness of said HID conversion. My brother has HID's on his frontier and is actually selling his whole kit because of the cost of replacing one bulb. There is a reason why Nissan designed the vehicles the way they did. Cost effectiveness vs overall style. People who buy an economy car are probably not trying to offset the cost of replacing HID bulbs.

[Clipsed]

that is because they overprice "KIT" bulbs. I can get a pair of brand new OEM Phillips or Osram D2S bulbs for $50 for the pair. "KIT" bulbs are about $80 a piece.