HID conversion kits??????

[cocotazo]

anyone...any advice which kit is the most reliable for a 2000 maxima?

[kzoosho]

A kit is a kit. They are all illegal and will glare in your housing. If you do get one please dont go over 6000k or it would be a waste of money. You wont get anymore visability than your halogen bulbs and youll be blinding other drives. I would say get the cheapest one you can find with a good warranty. But in the end it is still a pnp kit.

[Darktide]

Sorry man, I gotta disagree. I bought a Bi-Xenon kit (8000k) and they came out fine. My kit has the shield that slides back and forth, unfortunately due to the OEM shield in the housing the high beam function is barely noticeable but it DOES block the glare (since the worst part of the glare comes from the bottom of the reflectors and that is the part that is sheilded). I've gotten a few high beam flashes but that is because I never found the adjustment on my drivers side beam and it really wasn't that bad.

Truth be told though, the HID for our stock setup (even the 6000k) aren't all that great. Get a set of Sylvania Silverstars and you'll be in the same ball park for a LOT less investment. They do burn out more often than just a standard bulb but you're paying a lot less than HID for just about the same effect as a conversion.

I'd also like someone to actually post or link the law stating they are illegal. I know it's not a federal law, and since people are just throwing it at anyone who posts I'm assuming they aren't checking which states it's applicable, if it's actually a law at all.Darktide

[kzoosho]

I will check for you but you do know that anything thats not oem is illegal right?

[kzoosho]

Sorry man, I gotta disagree. I bought a Bi-Xenon kit (8000k) and they came out fine. My kit has the shield that slides back and forth, unfortunately due to the OEM shield in the housing the high beam function is barely noticeable but it DOES block the glare (since the worst part of the glare comes from the bottom of the reflectors and that is the part that is sheilded). I've gotten a few high beam flashes but that is because I never found the adjustment on my drivers side beam and it really wasn't that bad.

Truth be told though, the HID for our stock setup (even the 6000k) aren't all that great. Get a set of Sylvania Silverstars and you'll be in the same ball park for a LOT less investment. They do burn out more often than just a standard bulb but you're paying a lot less than HID for just about the same effect as a conversion.

I'd also like someone to actually post or link the law stating they are illegal. I know it's not a federal law, and since people are just throwing it at anyone who posts I'm assuming they aren't checking which states it's applicable, if it's actually a law at all.Darktide

ALso you do know the higher the kelvin the less output there is (lumens that is) . If you have the time do a lil search here http://www.hidplanet.com/forums you will find out anything you want to know about hids.

[King James]

I sell HID kits and all kits are not created equal. before i started to sell i was a ebay buyer and i thought the same thing buy the cheapest they do the same thing. yeah they do in the end they light up but the cheap kits will give you a cloudy color and will die out before one that might cost a lil more. ( u get what u pay for) I would recommend buying a kit with the lowest K i wouldn't go over 8K because the higher the K the more diffused the light is. I had 12K and thought i had the brightest then i switched to 6K and there is not comparison 6K is the sh**.

in the end u get what u pay for, stay with a Low K (6K is the best) and contact me if u want to get them from me. i can get u what u need.

[Darktide]

I did my fair amount of research. I chose 8000k because I like the slight blue tint. I do understand that that brings down the visible light but it hasn't been that big of a deal. I still enjoy my lights. They just aren't terrific because the stock housings for the '00-'01 weren't made for that type of light projection. Unlike the stock HID housings which were made to handle it so it projects the light better. Just my 2C on thatthough.

As for it not being OEM it's illegal is certainly wrong. Think of all exhausts, all the body mods, all the air intake modifications. The only thing that the law is strict on is emissions and in some places sound pollution.

I completely agree though. Some people don't do ANY research and get HID setups that cause disgusting amounts of glare and all they think is "sweet, these things rock" and don't care that people are flashing them with their high beams. The bi-xenon kit works well like I said because the shield blocks the lower portion of the housing to reduce the glare.

[kzoosho]

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html there is the link. and post edited.
Modified by kzoosho at 2:46 PM 1/20/2008

[jltibbs]

i do agree that running higher Kelvin than that of stock (4300K) you lose some actual light to color. however, i was completely satisfied my 8000K HID conversion kit for my headlights. at first, i got flashed on a regular basis. then, i got practical: i made some eyelids from vinyl. never got flashed after that. here's what i mean:

Before



After



but if you want to have no worries, do a retro fit so you dont have to worry about it.

[kzoosho]

Yes i retroed my self.

[jltibbs]

kzoosho,

would you mind editing your post above mine to have the link to your info? i've seen this info before, but not sure how to get to it.

[kzoosho]

kzoosho,

would you mind editing your post above mine to have the link to your info? i've seen this info before, but not sure how to get to it.

Edited and link added.

[jltibbs]

much appreciated. i'm going to bookmark that for future reference.

[Darktide]

While this action results from NHTSA's authority to regulate new motor vehicles sold to the public, NHTSA does not regulate motor vehicles in use. The states have that responsibility. Thus, it is the states that have the authority to regulate the safe condition and operation of motor vehicles in use. Headlamp aim and condition inspection is an area that is addressed by many states. However, many states do not have periodic motor vehicle inspection, and even those that do, do not always inspect headlamps.

Though I agree it should be regulated and controlled. It's not illegal... well not federally, it depends on your state.

As far as glare in the kits. I still stand by the fact that the bixenon kit I got with the shield was the best option if you don't want a retrofit since it stops the light from hitting the bottom part of the reflector (which sends the light up at on coming traffic) until you hit the high beams and then the shield moves and you get the glare. *shrug* I can take pics if i've confused anyoneDarktide

[NightRiderQ45]

Please show pics!!

[kzoosho]

While this action results from NHTSA's authority to regulate new motor vehicles sold to the public, NHTSA does not regulate motor vehicles in use. The states have that responsibility. Thus, it is the states that have the authority to regulate the safe condition and operation of motor vehicles in use. Headlamp aim and condition inspection is an area that is addressed by many states. However, many states do not have periodic motor vehicle inspection, and even those that do, do not always inspect headlamps.

Though I agree it should be regulated and controlled. It's not illegal... well not federally, it depends on your state.

As far as glare in the kits. I still stand by the fact that the bixenon kit I got with the shield was the best option if you don't want a retrofit since it stops the light from hitting the bottom part of the reflector (which sends the light up at on coming traffic) until you hit the high beams and then the shield moves and you get the glare. *shrug* I can take pics if i've confused anyoneDarktide

I know what you are saying and i will try to find the other link in the meantime. As i stated anything that you put on your car that doesnt carry a carb label is illegal. Please dont missinform anyone. If they choose to install this they should know the risks there thats all i am doing. I didnt sy not to get the kit .

[Darktide]

As i stated anything that you put on your car that doesnt carry a carb label is illegal. Please dont missinform anyone.

Funny you should mention misinformation. C.A.R.B.(aka California Air Resources Board) is strictly emissions and only deals with things that can alter your emissions output. On top of this, this board only carries significance in California because of the higher emissions restrictions. Hence if you ever flip through a Summit or Jeg's catalog you'll see labels like "49 state legal". Meaning the product didn't meet CARB requirements. You would never find a CARB label, say, on a body kit. I'm not trying to be a jerk just letting you know that you are spreading a bit of misinformation.Once you find me the federal or state law(s) that say you aren't allowed to put after market headlights into your car let me know (I'm not including the retarded color bulbs which state on every package that they are for off road use only).

Jay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...Board

Modified by Darktide at 2:22 PM 1/22/2008
Modified by Darktide at 2:47 PM 1/22/2008

[kzoosho]

Funny you should mention misinformation. C.A.R.B.(aka California Air Resources Board) is strictly emissions and only deals with things that can alter your emissions output. On top of this, this board only carries significance in California because of the higher emissions restrictions. Hence if you ever flip through a Summit or Jeg's catalog you'll see labels like "49 state legal". Meaning the product didn't meet CARB requirements. You would never find a CARB label, say, on a body kit. I'm not trying to be a jerk just letting you know that you are spreading a bit of misinformation.Once you find me the federal or state law(s) that say you aren't allowed to put after market headlights into your car let me know (I'm not including the retarded color bulbs which state on every package that they are for off road use only).

Jay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...Board

Modified by Darktide at 2:22 PM 1/22/2008

Modified by Darktide at 2:47 PM 1/22/2008

Um i know what carb is and i also run a customizing shop . I will find you the links to make you happy. BUt take a look here http://www.hidplanet.com/forums they have plenty of info for you about lighing .