Hezbolla and Lebanon

[audtatious]

Lebanon sources: Hezbollah planning coup if charged in Hariri murder

Hezbollah chief last week urged Lebanon to halt its cooperation with the inquiry into the 2005 assassination and accused investigators of sending information to Israel.

Hezbollah is planning to seize control of the Lebanese government if charged by International Court of Justice over the assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri, security sources in Lebanon said on Tuesday.

The sources told the A-Sharq al-Awsat daily that the militant group, the Amal faction and other pro-Syrian elements were coordinating a coup of Beirut and southern Lebanon, which they planned to split amongst themselves.

Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah last week urged Lebanon to halt its cooperation with the inquiry into the 2005 assassination and accused its investigators of sending information to Israel, the latest escalation in a war of words over the inquiry which threatens to plunge the country into more turmoil.

Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran and Syria, stepped up its campaign against the tribunal after reports emerged in recent months that the court's prosecutor may indict members of the group sometime in the next few months.

"Any call to boycott the tribunal is an attempt to obstruct justice," a representative of the tribunal said. "The Special Tribunal for Lebanon will continue to rely on the full cooperation of the Lebanese government and the international community, according to its statute."

Nasrallah's remarks came after two international investigators were forced by a crowd of women to leave a doctor's clinic in southern Beirut, a bastion of Hezbollah, where they had made an appointment to review files.

The tribunal condemned what it called an "attack on its staff" and said it would not be deterred from its investigation.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... r-1.322433

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So......don't investigate their involvement in the murder of the Lebanon PM in 2005 or they will take over the country.

Oh, and it's Israel's fault.

WTF is going on over there now?

[Amays U G37S]

nevermind

[audtatious]

I don't disagree but what does that have to do with the article and posturing of Hezbolla?

[IBCoupe]

So......don't investigate their involvement in the murder of the Lebanon PM in 2005

Which, of course, isn't the extent of what they're saying.

or they will take over the country.

As opposed to what they've been doing so far? They're basically a second Lebanese government in much (if not all) of the country, providing national defense, justice, and social welfare. And they're terrorists to boot! It's like the Lebanese Government 2.0! A coup in Lebanon by Hezbollah is like a coup in... well, there's no easy comparison. Suffice it to say, it's not really the kind of coup we're used to.

[audtatious]

So......don't investigate their involvement in the murder of the Lebanon PM in 2005

Which, of course, isn't the extent of what they're saying.

"Hezbollah is planning to seize control of the Lebanese government if charged by International Court of Justice over the assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri"

Seems pretty close to me.

Or, is this just more posturing by Hezbollah as a way to incite issues with Israel for blaming them for something?

[IBCoupe]

accused its investigators of sending information to Israel

Maybe that's just posturing, but it seems like they're suggesting that there's a pro-Israeli bias in the investigators.

[audtatious]

Is the ICJ a pro-Israel group? It's part/extension of the UN which would usually mean it's not.

[IBCoupe]

I don't know if it is, but that seems to be what Hezbollah is suggesting, and for all I know they actually believe it.

[heliochrome85]

i would not be surrpised if Israel had something tod o with the assination. The reality is Hariri made a ton of money (billions) for the syrian government as head of Lebanon. They had NO reason to kill him. Also, the syrians arent nearly that adept at assination. the assassination was done with surgical precision.


ultimately, this is just another example of the bellicose style of speaking that someone as head of Hezbollah would have to use in order to get the respect of his followers. Id be shocked if he actually carried out his threat.

[audtatious]

If Israel did have something to do with it then wouldn't the investigation show that? Seems they don't want the investigation at all "in case" there is finger pointing?

[IBCoupe]

Not if the investigation had picked Hezbollah as the scapegoat from the start, they'd argue.

[audtatious]

If that is an assumption in play here. I have not seen anything that states that as the case.

[IBCoupe]

accused its investigators of sending information to Israel

[audtatious]

That's not proof of their involvement even if it were true.

"I am Hezbollah and if you accuse us of doing something that we may have done then we will do something else that is horrible to show what you caused us to do so it's all your fault.....or Israel in this case.....so it's not really your fault either....but theirs...or something like that that makes no sense"

lolz

[IBCoupe]

I don't think it's proof of their involvement at all. I think it's indicative of Hezbollah's reasoning. I'm not saying I'm persuaded by them, I'm just saying I can read what they're trying to write.

[heliochrome85]

they sent a dossier of information out a couple months ago implicating israel's involvement. right or wrong, it may be the foundation for what they are doing now.

[audtatious]

I don't think it's proof of their involvement at all. I think it's indicative of Hezbollah's reasoning. I'm not saying I'm persuaded by them, I'm just saying I can read what they're trying to write.

Why are they threatening Lebanon again for what they may have done to them in the first place? Kinda like saying "FINE!!! You want to accuse me of X crime then I'll SHOW YOU!"

[audtatious]

they sent a dossier of information out a couple months ago implicating israel's involvement. right or wrong, it may be the foundation for what they are doing now.

See, that's not surprising. Now, if Israel's involvement via the investigating group is suspect, why the posturing?

Hell, it's Hezbollah....

[IBCoupe]

Why are they threatening Lebanon again for what they may have done to them in the first place? Kinda like saying "FINE!!! You want to accuse me of X crime then I'll SHOW YOU!"

I'm not saying it's a smart move either. There's a reason I'm not a member of Hezbollah, aside from the fact that they'd sooner see me executed.