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Are you mad enough to start thinking outside your respective box?

"Never Trump"
"Never Hillary"

I have an answer for you.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3070575/can-ga ... ber-maybe/
Gary Johnson is getting a lot of attention this week. Search engines have reported a huge spike in interest in the Libertarian Party candidate since Donald Trump all but wrapped up the Republican Party nomination this week.
Or vote for the lesser of two evils like every other election cycle and see where that takes you.


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^^^^^^^^

You need to face reality.

The GOP is going to lose and possibly be destroyed for a generation by their lack of governance,obstructionism and Donald Trump.

There is only one candidate that has the experience and necessary qualifications to become the next President of the United States.

Can you say madam president?

Hillary is going to crush and hopefully destroy and embarrass Trump.

He is a con man not fit to be POTUS

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Some noob reported this thread as SPAM. Said it has no business being on a car forum.
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Don't call Howie a noob. :rotfl

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:chuckle: ^

Howie. I know you're convinced Hillary will win this fall, despite polling that suggest the race is closer. But what would you do if Trump somehow wins the general election?

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Bubba1 wrote::chuckle: ^

Howie. I know you're convinced Hillary will win this fall, despite polling that suggest the race is closer. But what would you do if Trump somehow wins the general election?
What would I do?

I would be very surprised just as I was when Bush won over Al Gore

I became more interested in politics and gave up listening to Howard Stern after more than twenty-five years.
I now listen to Morning Joe on MSNBC and channel 118 on Sirius XM in the morning and Hardball in the evening.

But I have faith the American voters will make the right choice and elect the best and most qualified person to become the next POTUS.

Madame Hillary :biggrin:

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Keep drinking that kool-aid, Howie. If you think the investigation is going slow coincidentally, think again. Do you even October surprise? ;)

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When Hillary's cronies screw you Bernie supporters like Romney did to Paul and Cruz tried to do to Trump, take a look at the other guy. You might like him. ;)

http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/11/ ... y-johnson/
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He is not even on this list!

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... itics&_r=0

Follow the money to the White House door. :yesnod

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Yeah, but Hillary will need that money for legal fees.

Gary raised $2.3 million last cycle when the two candidates were somewhat accepted by their respective bases;. That is not the case this go around.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mog ... 21128.html
Clinton and Trump Would Be the Two Most Disliked Candidates in History

The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll shows 56% of voters holding a negative view of Hillary and only 32% holding a positive view, a record-breaking minus 24% rating.

Meanwhile, 65% of voters view The Donald negatively and only 24% view him positively, an even more record-breaking minus 41% rating. (The numbers for Ted Cruz are 26% positive, 49% negative, a minus 23% rating which is actually 1% better than Hillary’s.)
IN MOTHER$#@IN HISTORY! HISTORY!

That's your girl, Howie. People like YOU more than her. Do yo realize how significant that is? Of course you don't.

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When your evil party is done doin Bernie dirty and the evil GOP is done with whatever Montreal screw job they try on Trump, regardless of whether it works or not, there are going to be more people looking for another option than we have ever seen. Both sides are tired of the whack jobs in their camps and are looking for a new relationship.

"Hello, I'm a left leaning conservative. No s***, I'm a right leaning liberal. Holy crap, you actually are closer to me on the real issues than the loudmouths in my party. Weird, I feel the same. They tell me a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump. Yeah they tell me a vote for a third party is a vote for Hillary; she's a shrew. Yeah, not liking her myself, but c'mon Trump? I know, what a nutjob, right? and the other guys give off pedo vibes, F that. Let's see what this Gary dude is bringing to the table."

The biggest conflagration starts with that first spark and your girl is helping that tinder get warm. Thank her for me, Howie, when you visit her in prison for the conjugal. I hope she doesn't hurt your tender butthole too much with that huge iron penor she is hiding under her pants suit. Look on the bright side, you will get to feel what her presidency would have been like for all of us. :ohno:

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telcoman wrote:I became more interested in politics and gave up listening to Howard Stern after more than twenty-five years.
I now listen to Morning Joe on MSNBC and channel 118 on Sirius XM in the morning and Hardball in the evening.

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Giving up Howard after 25 yrs for cheezy political shows? Sacrilege. Shame. :chuckle:

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Come to think of it, I sort of picture Howie looking like Imus.

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:chuckle:

As a long time Stern fan, I'm sure Howie will remember this Fred classic about Imus.




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwJRXWX73o[/youtube]

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^^^^^^

Thanks
I do remember that from a long time ago

For anyone interested in Politics I highly recommend House of Cards on Netflix

I just recently started watching it

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Alright, folks. The Libertarian primaries are over.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/libertarian ... 1464561553

Haha!
The convention was an unusual spectacle by the standards of typical American political gatherings, even in an election year where a reality-television star has catapulted to an almost-assured Republican nomination.

Indeed, a large comic book, science fiction and anime exposition was being held adjacent to Libertarian convention, leading delegates to mingle in the hotel with a steady stream of people dressed in costumes depicting characters, such as Pokémon’s Pikachu and Star Wars’ Han Solo.
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Whoever wins, I'm stocked up on ARs, 1911s, XDs, and tons of magazines and ammo.

Because America**

(** Not to be confused with states such as California, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Illinois etc.)


I'd love to see more Libertarians in office, but a vote against Trump is a vote for Hillary so I'm a Trump man. Can't stump the Trump.

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Here's yet another reason to vote Libertarian! :ohno:

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I just came from voting and I'm livid. Democrats, Libertarians and American Independents are supposed to have an open primary that not only includes each other's parties but includes non-party affiliated voters as well. The Secretary of State (a Democrat) failed to print official ballots that include all the options. Non affiliated voters are being given a Democratic ballot with only Democratic choices, Libertarians are given only Libertarian choices, etc., etc. As a registered Modern Whig the poll workers actually had to call the county registrar to find out how to let me vote for the candidate of my choice who I was legally entitled to vote for. I finally had to disclose the party affiliation of the person I was voting for to get the right ballot. So much for casting a secret ballot.

It makes me wonder how many votes are being cast for Democrats by independents because that's the only choice the Democratic administration in this state is giving them. How many votes for Gary Johnson are not being cast by unaffiliated independents and Democrats? How many third party voters are not being allowed to cross party lines to vote for Bernie Sanders?

The two major parties will do anything to keep third parties out of the eyes of of the majority of voters.

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What do the latest Vegas odds mean? (actually, I know what they mean)

Hillary Clinton -220
Donald Trump +190
Bernie Sanders +1600

Whatever they mean, you can bet they pretty accurately reflect the smart money if you're planning on actually betting some of your money.

Other odds, Hillary chance of becoming Pres. = 80%
The Orange Orangutan's chances, 20%

Just wait, Trump has just started tripping over his d***, and he'll trip over it so many times between now and November that even the Republicans will be voting blue just to insure Trump fails.
You heard it first here.

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Bubba1 wrote::chuckle: ^

Howie. I know you're convinced Hillary will win this fall, despite polling that suggest the race is closer. But what would you do if Trump somehow wins the general election?
Hey Bubba

This is for you.

Just in case you missed this in The New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/08/opini ... egion&_r=0

I'll help you out if the link doesn't allow you

Dump the G.O.P. for a Grand New Party
[Thomas L. Friedman]

Thomas L. Friedman JUNE 7, 2016

"If a party could declare moral bankruptcy, today’s Republican Party would be in Chapter 11.

This party needs to just shut itself down and start over — now. Seriously, someone please start a New Republican Party!

America needs a healthy two-party system. America needs a healthy center-right party to ensure that the Democrats remain a healthy center-left party. America needs a center-right party ready to offer market-based solutions to issues like climate change. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense gun laws. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense fiscal policy. America needs a center-right party to support both free trade and aid to workers impacted by it. America needs a center-right party that appreciates how much more complicated foreign policy is today, when you have to manage weak and collapsing nations, not just muscle strong ones.

But this Republican Party is none of those things. Today’s G.O.P. is to governing what Trump University is to education — an ethically challenged enterprise that enriches and perpetuates itself by shedding all pretense of standing for real principles, or a truly relevant value proposition, and instead plays on the ignorance and fears of the public.

It is just an empty shell, selling pieces of itself to the highest bidders, — policy by policy — a little to the Tea Party over here, a little to Big Oil over there, a little to the gun lobby, to antitax zealots, to climate-change deniers. And before you know it, the party stands for an incoherent mess of ideas unrelated to any theory of where the world is going or how America actually becomes great again in the 21st century.

It becomes instead a coalition of men and women who sell pieces of their brand to whoever can most energize their base in order for them to get re-elected in order for them to sell more pieces of their brand in order to get re-elected.

And we know just how little they are attached to any principles, because today’s Republican Party’s elders have told us so by (with a few notable exceptions) being so willing to throw their support behind a presidential candidate whom they know is utterly ignorant of policy, has done no homework, has engaged in racist attacks on a sitting judge, has mocked a disabled reporter, has impugned an entire religious community, and has tossed off ignorant proposals for walls, for letting allies go it alone and go nuclear and for overturning trade treaties, rules of war and nuclear agreements in ways that would be wildly destabilizing if he took office.

Despite that, all top G.O.P. leaders say they will still support Donald Trump — even if he’s dabbled in a “textbook definition” of racism, as House Speaker Paul Ryan described it — because he will sign off on their agenda and can do only limited damage given our checks and balances.

Really? Mr. Speaker, your agenda is a mess, Trump will pay even less attention to you if he is president and, as Senator Lindsey Graham rightly put it, there has to be a time “when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary.”

Will it ever be that time with this version of the G.O.P.?

Et tu, John McCain? You didn’t break under torture from the North Vietnamese, but your hunger for re-election is so great that you don’t dare raise your voice against Trump? I hope you lose. You deserve to. Marco Rubio? You called Trump “a con man,” he insults your very being and you still endorse him? Good riddance.

Chris Christie, have you not an ounce of self-respect? You’re serving as the valet to a man who claimed, falsely, that on 9/11, in Jersey City, home to many Arab-Americans, “thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.” Christie is backing a man who made up a baldfaced lie about residents of his own state so that maybe he can be his vice president. Contemptible.

This is exactly why so many Republican voters opted for Trump in the first place. They intuited that the only thing these G.O.P. politicians were interested in was holding onto their seats in office — and they were right. It made voters so utterly cynical that many figured, Why not inflict Trump on them? It’s all just a con game anyway. And at least Trump sticks it to all of those politically correct liberals. And anyway, governing doesn’t matter — only attitude.

And who taught them that?"

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"America needs a healthy two-party system"

Absolutely incorrect. We need a legitimate three party system, to keep things better in check. This two party bs hasn't worked in years.

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Antihero - I totally agree with your assessment. We absolutely need a centrist party to keep this country from swinging too far to the right or the left.

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Besides, a system of so called "check and balances" can't really work if there's only two parties faking it.

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Antihero wrote:"America needs a healthy two-party system"

Absolutely incorrect. We need a legitimate three party system, to keep things better in check. This two party bs hasn't worked in years.
Completely agreed!!

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Tune into the town hall, folks. A word of warning, though, watching a candidate actually talk about issues may scare you. :crazy:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... -town-hall

Chris Cuomo will moderate a town hall with Gary Johnson and Bill Weld next Wednesday at 9 p.m. in New York City.

As Trump uses the Orlando shootings to key in on his muslim thing and Clinton uses it to advance her anti-gun thing, Gary does what moderates do, avoids rushing to judgement and looks for facts to come out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... nclusions/
“In this immediate aftermath of what is clearly a tragic and despicable attack, our thoughts must be with the victims,” Johnson said while he monitored events from New Mexico. “Regardless of what the motivation is ultimately found to be, this violence against innocent people simply going about their lives is both cowardly and infuriating. We must allow the authorities to do their jobs, understand how this attack came about, and then respond accordingly. It is not a time to either politicize or jump to conclusions.”

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Reasons to be Bullish about Gary Johnson's poll numbers.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/06/17/4-oth ... on-gary-jo

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Howie, you realize you have just posted an argument against your own philosophy, right?

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To be fair, I'm sure Howie likes and has plenty of monogamous sex. Though at some point, he'll begin to use his other hand...... :biggrin: j/k.

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Did you read the last two sentences?

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