Hey Andy!

[Mr1der]

you know of any good fat burners?

I think my a** is finally ready to start cutting weight and add about 15-20 pounds of muscle.

seems like a good bit of work to do...suppose I should look for the best ways to go about it?

[gabossie]

I suggest excercise

[MinisterofDOOM]

you know of any good fat burners?

I think my a** is finally ready to start cutting weight and add about 15-20 pounds of muscle.

seems like a good bit of work to do...suppose I should look for the best ways to go about it?

Get the S12 on the road, Fred Flintstone style. That oughta burn some fat.

[Mr1der]

rofl, swear to god...

I need some callused feet too...

I should actually cut out the floor on the T Bird for this...being as it weighs about 1500 pounds more...

[Repo Man]

you know of any good fat burners?

Yep. Best fat burner there is is running, along with swimming and cross country skiing.

As far as supplements, I wholeheartedly endorse Trimax, Lipodrene and NOx 3000. The Trimax will be a cash-only purchase. That's how good it is and only if my man has any, which he may not. He should have Lipodrene however. The good thing about that is that it inhibits appetite as well as enhancing your metabolism, so it's kind of a double-whammy. There used to be a product called ThermoGen II. It had both ephedra AND cayenne in it. It was like having a total body buzz.

Anyway, call Bob at Cutting Edge Nutrition here in Indy. He does mail order and is the man to see about supplements around here. He is very good.

Cutting Edge Nutrition8282 Center Run DrIndianapolis, IN 46250-1591 (317) 585-0605

When I found out I was getting mobilized by the Army this past summer, I realized that I needed to get in shape FAST. I had already started when I got my packet and was running about a mile at a time. I got on the NOx 3000 and Trimax, started dropping fat within a week and then went out and ran four miles in the heat of the summer.

I weighed in at the gym two days ago at 215lbs. At the beginning of the spring, I was 250+. The s*** works.

[JESTER]

Xenidrine or how ever you spell it worked pretty darn good when I was actually trying to be a non fat slob. But it had Ephedrine in it, and which can explode ye ole heart.

But considering as heavy as I am, it may be worth the risk. I was taking that stuff, then doing a modified Mayo Clinic diet. And I was drinking grapefruit juice like it was going out of style. NASTY STUFF.

Anyway, I ended up loosing like 50 to 60 pounds, in two months or so. Not the best type diet for you, but for someone my size, getting the weight off is worth the poor diet choice. Only problem is when you go off diets like this, you put the weight back on.

Where I failed, was after going off the diet I did not pick up my exercise. Being the size I am with my back problems, I have to be able to get eh weight off with diet to a certain level, then pick up the exercise once I am down enough weight where my screwed up back can hack it. I was at that point, but didnt get teh job done. Now my friggin back is way worse.

Oh well, I need to get motivated and get back some of weight loss plan. If for no other reason than to prepare for the inevitable back surgery which is in the future.

[Repo Man]

Xenidrine or how ever you spell it worked pretty darn good when I was actually trying to be a non fat slob. But it had Ephedrine in it, and which can explode ye ole heart.

Well actually the whole ephedra controversy has been overblown, IMO. Yes, if you abuse it or use it improperly you can likely have problems. The biggest factor there is taking too much and not being properly hydrated. Used properly, it is reasonably safe and very effective. Another problem are the people that have a medical problem to start with and don't know it. Combine that with the aforementioned mistakes and it can be lethal.

All the more reason to get checked out by the doc before starting a program.

Only problem is when you go off diets like this, you put the weight back on.

Where I failed, was after going off the diet I did not pick up my exercise. Being the size I am with my back problems, I have to be able to get eh weight off with diet to a certain level, then pick up the exercise once I am down enough weight where my screwed up back can hack it.

The key is not to go on a diet in the first place. The key is to change your lifestyle. Don't eat french fries or pizza on a regular basis. Switch foods to low fat options, like get the baked potato instead of fries. And simply eat less food. Have one cookie, not ten.

Be conscious of what you put in your mouth. Ask yourself, "Am I really hungry or am I just eating to be eating?". Eat until you are not hungry anymore and then STOP. Don't gorge yourself. When you do that, you are actually stretching your stomach and making it such that you have to eat more to feel full. This compounds the problem.

The best scenario is a combination of exercise and changes to your diet (not going on a diet). This is different for everyone, and there isn't any one "right" way to do it.

repo

[Mr1der]

yeah....ephedra will mess a person up IF they take too much and over exert in heat and don't take in enough water.

don't do that and you're fine.

[TrueSlide]

Running is the sex0r. I dont like running but man, it is the best way to shave off weight.

[JESTER]

Yeah Repo, I know. I have got to do something. Dont feel like having a friggin heart attack before I hit 35.

Drinking, smoking, and the job I do dont help a whole lot.

Anyway, I am gonna go eat a Good Humor Strawberry Shortcake bar, and think it over.

[Mr1der]

good man.

those are really good.

honestly, not too too horrbily bad for a person so long as you don't kill a box...

[JESTER]

There was only one left. But I did have a bowl of Sundrop Sherbert as well.

I think the stress is gonna kill me before anything. I went off on an employ awhile ago. I mean I went off. They screwed up a dispatch, and know they screwed it up, but then they dont fix it. Damn it! Peoples lives hang in the friggin balance. I just hope I can make it until January for my two weeks off, before I melt down.

EDIT: You guys have no ideal what this site and all you guys mean to me. If it was for me chilling on NICO, and cutting up with you guys, I would have blown a blood vessel a long time ago. NICO is the best stress relief. Well that, and a good cigar and pint of Jack Daniels. But I cant drink until after I get home.

[Repo Man]

EDIT: You guys have no ideal what this site and all you guys mean to me. If it was for me chilling on NICO, and cutting up with you guys, I would have blown a blood vessel a long time ago. NICO is the best stress relief. Well that, and a good cigar and pint of Jack Daniels. But I cant drink until after I get home.

+1 for that homey!

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