Helpfulness on the forums...

[WidebodyZ]

I am trying to be helpful here, so please let me do so. Stop the attacks and just go on with your business. I don't understand why you gang up on people who have different opinions than you and offer new information to the table.


Modified by WidebodyZ at 2:26 PM 10/22/2006

[xekushnr]

have fun with your ban, tell todd i said hi.

[WidebodyZ]

have fun with your ban, tell todd i said hi.

I told Todd you said Hi.

[xekushnr]

i dont understand how you can complain about the helpfulness on the forums when you make it your business to constantly criticize and bash other members, who are in fact just trying to be helpful. from what replies i have seen from you, it seems like your only reason for being here. i liked todd being here, but from what i have seen it looks like you have had this coming. sorry, but even though you edited your post, i think this thread may be the beginning of the end for you. have you read the rules?

[WidebodyZ]

I have read the rules. And I'm not going outside them with creating a post. I edited my post to make it more understandable and broad in spectrum. I see no harm in my being here. I think you need to understand that my info is not BS. I've been doing this for a long time and it's not just working out of my garage. I've been working out of shops for years. This isn't just some guy making claims..these are things I have experienced while building cars besides my own.

[xekushnr]

i understand this, and believe me im not trying to attack your credibility. i just think you have to understand you arent the only one with experience in your field, working on Z cars. jerry is in the same business, and drives the same car. he owns his own shop, so he's not just talking out of his *** either.

[WidebodyZ]

And claiming 650whp and 200mph is okay? I mean..where's the dyno sheets? Where is the speed trap readings? If he has an NA rear end it'd be impossible..so I hope he didn't do that mod (it would change the gearing to make the car far faster in the low to mid end, but limit mph to under 180). BTW...one GT2530 tops out at 320ps...TOPS OUT as in becomes inefficient to create power after. So this would allow for 640ps maximum (at the highest efficiency and tuning)...ps is lower than hp and given his lack of dyno tuning (yes, I'm only assuming since I haven't seen any dyno info posted) I'd say that's far from the truth. I mean the Pentroof Z32 with those turbines only dynod 518.8rwhp at 6200rpm. I'm sure you should know who they are and that the car has all Tomei internals (their TD06 made almost 750whp). His car has a lot of stuff on it, but it also has a lot of weight added to it. My point is that I speak in factual information not probable information. Please don't confuse the two.

[AZhitman]

There's always someone who knows more, so settle the hell down.

My understanding is that this isn't the first forum you've had a "vacation" from, so it might be time to take a step back and look in the mirror.

Why is it so imperative that you be "right"? Is this some sort of online pen15-measuring contest? If so, you might wanna look into a pump or some pills.

There's a ton of people here with equivalent (or more) experience and knowledge, and just as with almost any topic, there are differences of opinions.

Tuning is an inexact science, so "truth" is often relative. Of course, we don't want blatant misinformation spreading, but to my recollection, you've posted some "questionable" claims in the past (which I'm sure you'll argue), and no one jumped all up in your **** about it.

My point is, if you're THAT good, then people will pay you a metric crapton of money to diagnose, modify and tune their cars. When you become a household name, let us know. Until then, you're one of many guys, albeit talented, who simply work on Z cars.

Creating a new thread to whine about a closed one is not only bad form, but it's prohibited. You'd know that if you had read the rules. And given that you claim you have, you've just admittedly violated that very rule.

Contribute and co-exist, or find another place to hang.

[WidebodyZ]

I haven't been banned without my thinking I would be banned. In other words. The forums I have been banned from were for reasons I was pretty sure I'd be banned for saying what I felt I had to, but I felt I'd be doing myself injustice for not saying what I really wanted to. I was banned once from this forum for a religious belief/disbelief..and that's all it was. It wasn't even car related. I was banned from another 2 small forums because of the one same person being a complete douchebag. I'm on TONS of forums..I even admin/mod some of them. I speak my mind, it might not always be what you want to hear and I'm sorry for that, but that's just me. I have no problem looking into the mirror. This is the internet..you don't have to look in any mirrors here..and for most people, that's the beauty of it. So being banned from not even a handful of forums is hardly any track record. Don't make it out to be more than what it is. I don't want to be a household name and have no aspirations of being "the man". I just have a large dislike for misinformation, that's all there is to it. It's not me having to be right, it's the information having to be right. Big difference there and one often mistaken, so I don't blame you...no harm done.

[AZhitman]

How generous of you.

Regardless of whether you *knew* you'd be banned or not is irrelevant. I speed, knowing full well that I'll be consequenced for it at some point - Doesn't make it right.

I'll make sure we check all your info from here on out.

You're not the first person in the several years we've been doing this to propose to "carry the cross of righteousness" in the name of accuracy.

"I speak my mind, sorry if you don't like it" is a cop-out, and one we've heard plenty of times before.

The difference is, most people convey their point without alienating their audience. It's called tact, class and maturity.

[WidebodyZ]

Generous? I don't get it? I didn't say whether it was right or wrong or if I felt it was. Check whatever you want..it's your forum. You can call anything a cop-out these days. I was speaking literally. But I can't control what you perceive.

The difference is, most people convey their point without alienating their audience. It's called tact, class and maturity.

You might want to pass that on to your staff..I think they missed the memo. Look at how they responded to what I had to say. Then they went on to delete what I said and posted, but left pics and attempted pwng that matched their intent. Is that what you consider tact, class, and maturity? I'm not asking for much here, but if you're going to tell me that, at least have your staff own up to it as well. That's not to much to ask right?

[NSR_s30]

Why all the drama? Thats stupid, we should just all get a long.

[AZhitman]

The fact remains that you read the rules and somehow percieved that they don't apply to you.

Don't worry about my staff, that's my responsibility. As a "forum admin" you should know that.

[wild_maxx]

yeah we should all act like the 34 yr old mature admin guy.

[WidebodyZ]

yeah we should all act like the 34 yr old mature admin guy.

That was helpful..way to set the example.

[gpelite]

I like widebodyZ, he is a credit to the forum not to mention an asset to Nico. Helps out everyone and actually gives you something to go on and backs it up. The real help I have gotten comes majorly from him.

Kinda at a loss for what is goin on in this thread since I kinda come in on n off so excuse the lack of background info on the subject