help with hondas...
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drifter sx
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help with hondas...
ok being a die-hard nissan man, its never been anything but nissan for me [a toyota here and there but mainly nissan] anyway, so it turns out a few guys i know are all into hondas. bothe of these guys have preludes, but one also has a civic and the other also has an S2000. well we were talkin and suddenly they start saying that even with the SR [if i had one] they could take me and started goin on and on about how honda was better and lasts longer and 1/4 mile times and all this other stuff. i just kinda stood there not sayin much and it dawned on me: i dunno s*** about hondas! dont know the facts, the power numbers, reliability pr ANYTHING about hondas. all i know is B18c is a honda engine and civic boys like it a lot. aright this is getting long but i just wanted to ask: i need to be schooled in the honda info so that i can put these guys down cuz i know nissan is better. help me out guys, just gimme the good stuff or a site i could read up on. thanks...
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Thats some incentive to do an Rb25 swap! 
Hondas can be made to be very fast, as can Nissans or any other car for that matter. I know of a guy right now that has a t3/t4 hybrid on his b18 (think its a b18?) Civic hatchback, and he runs 10's on the bottle! It's damn fast. Hondas are very good at efficiency. I've seen plenty of crx's with a b16/b18 swap and some mods and serious lightening (basically stripped interior) run 12's and 13's with only 160-200hp. Though, it sounds like those friends of yours might not be the dedicated types to go through with a lot of work like that. It also sounds like they are pro Honda and don't know anything about Nissan. In reality, I don't care what anyone thinks, you look in Japan and Nissan and Toyota are the top 2 car manufacturers there in terms of people modifying them and making pure street demons. If we had cars officialy sold here like the Skyline, silvia, soarer, etc than Honda wouldn't be as popular here either. I don't care if you have Vtec, nos a turbo or whatever. No Honda except maybe the NSX would be able to hang with some of the cars on the streets of Japan like those 1000hp+ gtr's and mk4 Supras. FWD and small engines have their limits.
I have a bunch of friends that are die-hard Honda. They don't really think Honda is better than anyone else. Though, most of them are running 18s with bolt-ons, and a friend with a '00 eclipse 4cyl 5spd ran a damn 17! None of them have anything other than a few bolt-ons of course but, even my beater '91 Maxima (vg30e SOHC) is good for a ~15.5-15.8 if I fixed a few problems on it. I could still pull all of them and my car is screwed up!
I respect Honda and especially any Honda owner that tastefully upgrades his Honda into a monster. Honda's are good for what they are but, Nissan and Toyota just do it better IMO. Hell I could beat most of my friends in my '73 240z (if I had it on the street at the moment) and that's a damn 30yr old car.
Hondas can be made to be very fast, as can Nissans or any other car for that matter. I know of a guy right now that has a t3/t4 hybrid on his b18 (think its a b18?) Civic hatchback, and he runs 10's on the bottle! It's damn fast. Hondas are very good at efficiency. I've seen plenty of crx's with a b16/b18 swap and some mods and serious lightening (basically stripped interior) run 12's and 13's with only 160-200hp. Though, it sounds like those friends of yours might not be the dedicated types to go through with a lot of work like that. It also sounds like they are pro Honda and don't know anything about Nissan. In reality, I don't care what anyone thinks, you look in Japan and Nissan and Toyota are the top 2 car manufacturers there in terms of people modifying them and making pure street demons. If we had cars officialy sold here like the Skyline, silvia, soarer, etc than Honda wouldn't be as popular here either. I don't care if you have Vtec, nos a turbo or whatever. No Honda except maybe the NSX would be able to hang with some of the cars on the streets of Japan like those 1000hp+ gtr's and mk4 Supras. FWD and small engines have their limits.
I have a bunch of friends that are die-hard Honda. They don't really think Honda is better than anyone else. Though, most of them are running 18s with bolt-ons, and a friend with a '00 eclipse 4cyl 5spd ran a damn 17! None of them have anything other than a few bolt-ons of course but, even my beater '91 Maxima (vg30e SOHC) is good for a ~15.5-15.8 if I fixed a few problems on it. I could still pull all of them and my car is screwed up!
I respect Honda and especially any Honda owner that tastefully upgrades his Honda into a monster. Honda's are good for what they are but, Nissan and Toyota just do it better IMO. Hell I could beat most of my friends in my '73 240z (if I had it on the street at the moment) and that's a damn 30yr old car.-
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Rather than roam the internet and pour over books i would suggest you get your keys and go find out. Benchracing is ssssssssssssssssssooooooooooo annoying. They say they can beat your car, go find out. if it helps my heavier Skyline with an RB20DET easily walked a brand new S2000 and my CA18DE(notice the missing T) stuck to a Prelude like glue. A 240 with an SR should be able to handle them but if you never run you'll never know.
i know hondas, using to own one benifit me. the prelude and civic(b18c swap) are a piece of s*** going stock against a sr. the s2000 is the only one that will win. then again, with the s15 sr, that s2000 will now have a problem. that simple.
i know a few people is going to disagree. before you do. let's use some logic. spend 6 grand on all motor from pure stock. the sr still will get the upper hand because it came stock with turbo. then again it's how much money you have to invest in to it.
i know a few people is going to disagree. before you do. let's use some logic. spend 6 grand on all motor from pure stock. the sr still will get the upper hand because it came stock with turbo. then again it's how much money you have to invest in to it.
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If i remember correctly, a stock S2000 is capable of 13.8 in the 1/4, or maybe it was a 14.2 (according to the mags). It should be the only one of that bunch to worry about. I do agree with the others though, go ahead and race them. The worst that will happen is they will have new found respect for the 240, cause it sounds a lot like they are underestimating it (I love it when people do that).:icon18