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666-g50
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i have a b&b electric supercharger, it came with the car, here is the link:http://www.globalautoshop.com/....html

so my question is where should i wire in the switch for the charger? the idea is that the charger starts before the motor so the MAF reads normally.

i thought about a line off the alternator but i dont know enough to ris kit. any thoughts?


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Throw the entire kit in the garbage,where it belongs.

666-g50
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you think the factory airbox has better flow than a cone filter? even with out the "charger" isnt it better to get more air?

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qship96 is right throw it away i heard and read they dont do nothing better except mess the motor up.Sometimes wont let air flow go through.Haven't tried it so you choice weather to keep it or not.

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weak, though im not surprised. i guess a 200 dollar gimmick cant stand up to 45k in engineering

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i guess................but to be honest if you think it works try it just your risk not ours.People will say it's impossible or it sucks this and that but we never know because we haven't tried it.So you choice but in my opinion i wanted one too until i found people who tried it.Some said it did work but the gas mileage went down a lot.So let us know.

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They also make an invisible Grill for $15 plus shipping: http://www.globalautoshop.com/...l.htm

Before the great chrome grill:

After the Famous grill:

They sure make IMPUL grills look bad.

666-g50
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add the chrome weather strip to the door and fender and you got yerself a deal

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ppastos wrote:They also make an invisible Grill for $15 plus shipping: http://www.globalautoshop.com/...l.htm

Before the great chrome grill:

After the Famous grill:

They sure make IMPUL grills look bad.
That doesnt look bad bro.hahaha add the trim and i'll buy what you think eh?trim on fenders and a trim on the grill any good?then add the aftermarket chroms supercharger lol.but im serious about the trim.

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Where is that on the picture though?

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ppastos wrote:Where is that on the picture though?
The grill thing look at it!!!the trim i dunno picture it hahaha

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I took me a while to realize there was a little chrome piece of crap on the edge of the hood.

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Wow I see it, Its still a rip off.

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ppastos wrote:Wow I see it, Its still a rip off.
I guess i can only see small things lol thats why im picky hahaha

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If I got something like that for free I would give it a try.

Could also be beneficial to me... my friend broke those two hoses going to the intake filter and sometimes in traffic my car chokes likes its not getting enough air.

So that could be useful to me.

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Kiven422 wrote:If I got something like that for free I would give it a try.

Could also be beneficial to me... my friend broke those two hoses going to the intake filter and sometimes in traffic my car chokes likes its not getting enough air.

So that could be useful to me.
Nice friend!

Read Q45tech's post on the subject and you will realize it is totally worthless unless you would like to stress your alternator a little more.

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666-g50 wrote:i have a b&b electric supercharger, it came with the car, here is the link:http://www.globalautoshop.com/....html

so my question is where should i wire in the switch for the charger? the idea is that the charger starts before the motor so the MAF reads normally.

i thought about a line off the alternator but i dont know enough to ris kit. any thoughts?
Forget about this thing. It's way too small to make any power on the Q.

A basic rule of forced induction is that you need approx. 30 hp to compress 100 hp worth of air flow. You have to get this power from somewhere such as the crankshaft or from exhaust energy.

Some companies have experimented with electric supercharger and have found out that you need a huge motor to compress any meaningful amount of air. Thomas Knight has an electric supercharger setup that needs extra batteries to power it.

http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18

What's it made out of?

The core of our ESC™ 350c is a centrifugal type supercharger. This durable unit flows up to 6 psi** in less than a second and is rated up to 400 hp. Its impeller is turned by a custom-wound electric motor. Most components are CNC-machined, 60-16 T6 aircraft aluminum. Every unit is made-to-order by Thomas Knight, thoroughly tested and backed by our competitive 1-year warranty.

Electric motor? Then it must run off your alternator, right?

Wrong. For years, drawing current straight from an alternator was the misguided approach of engineers unable to think outside the box. It simply isn't possible for an alternator to produce enough current to power a real supercharger.

Then where does the power come from?

At the push of a button, an ultra-lightweight battery bank injects the drive system with bursts of pure energy. And you can use either regular car batteries, or MIL-SPEC type, specifically designed for hardcore use and fast recharge. Most importantly, they're totally independent from your vehicle, so you don't suffer the parasitic loss under boost that a turbo or supercharger robs from your engine. Because this is a universal system, we do not supply these batteries, but we can help you customize your setup towards a specific application. For the average user, we suggest two regular batteries; for competition racers, we recommend the awesome BATCAPs, or Odyssey high-CCA batteries (only 13 lbs each).


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good stuff dude. nice post. im not gonna take any chances with the Q but i am gonna put this P.O.S on my other P.O.S a 95 altima gxe sedan. i wont feel nearly as bad when that one cashes out

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sijoko wrote:
Forget about this thing. It's way too small to make any power on the Q.

A basic rule of forced induction is that you need approx. 30 hp to compress 100 hp worth of air flow. You have to get this power from somewhere such as the crankshaft or from exhaust energy.

Some companies have experimented with electric supercharger and have found out that you need a huge motor to compress any meaningful amount of air. Thomas Knight has an electric supercharger setup that needs extra batteries to power it.

http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18

What's it made out of?

The core of our ESC™ 350c is a centrifugal type supercharger. This durable unit flows up to 6 psi** in less than a second and is rated up to 400 hp. Its impeller is turned by a custom-wound electric motor. Most components are CNC-machined, 60-16 T6 aircraft aluminum. Every unit is made-to-order by Thomas Knight, thoroughly tested and backed by our competitive 1-year warranty.

Electric motor? Then it must run off your alternator, right?

Wrong. For years, drawing current straight from an alternator was the misguided approach of engineers unable to think outside the box. It simply isn't possible for an alternator to produce enough current to power a real supercharger.

Then where does the power come from?

At the push of a button, an ultra-lightweight battery bank injects the drive system with bursts of pure energy. And you can use either regular car batteries, or MIL-SPEC type, specifically designed for hardcore use and fast recharge. Most importantly, they're totally independent from your vehicle, so you don't suffer the parasitic loss under boost that a turbo or supercharger robs from your engine. Because this is a universal system, we do not supply these batteries, but we can help you customize your setup towards a specific application. For the average user, we suggest two regular batteries; for competition racers, we recommend the awesome BATCAPs, or Odyssey high-CCA batteries (only 13 lbs each).
No offence but:

How much power does the this thing create?

What about this point on there site:

"Then what is it?

Our patented ESC™ 350CM is a high-performance electric supercharger powered by extra batteries instead of your engine's belt. It can add huge hp gains on stock engines up to 3.0L. "

Why not go with a true super charger or Turbo charger with the super charger you have some power immediately, With a Turbo you have a lot of power in some seconds.

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ppastos wrote: No offence but:

How much power does the this thing create?

What about this point on there site:

"Then what is it?

Our patented ESC™ 350CM is a high-performance electric supercharger powered by extra batteries instead of your engine's belt. It can add huge hp gains on stock engines up to 3.0L. "

Why not go with a true super charger or Turbo charger with the super charger you have some power immediately, With a Turbo you have a lot of power in some seconds.
It says 400 hp so you need at least 2 for the Q.

However, I'm not recommending an electric supercharger. I think it is very limited in what you can get out of it. I posted this info so people can see how much power an electric supercharger really needs.

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well if you have a AUX battery that is charged by a $20 Solar board and if you attach 2 of those i think you got a shot for some boost. they have that in PVC and it will hold alot of pressure if used correctly. and here is the solar charger to charge the aux battery and not drain any power that your car needs to operate with. This design is only for temporary use like 2-3 minutes a day or something. its doable but not so efficient. Maybe for a quick run at the 1/4 mile or something.

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1.0 HP requires 746 watts of electricity to create.An alternator can create 2 HP worth of electricity [1500 watts] but the Q requires roughly 1/3 of alternator output to just run engine injectors, coils, MAF, ECU and TCU. Lights fans, windows, seats, radio, and wipers are extra!



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